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I'm sad face to hear/read about all this considering jelly and st0rm are the 2 communities I have made a renegade home.I have a long list of friends from both communities. I understand the frustrations to some degree since I too have a server(ish) (still developing it).
At the same time, it takes a lot to post onto your community forums and say I screw up majorly. It also takes a lot for all parties to forgive, even more to move past. It requires everyone to swallow their pride and humble themselves and to not rage which is hard. Now is the opportunity for people to change for the better. This won't be fixed in a month, but as time goes, things will smooth out.
The way I see it is that Jelly and st0rm have more to offer their players if the mods/admins/owners can move past everything. A strong majority of the people who play renegade are on these two servers. No good if everyone is divided. People who play this game play it for the game, chilling with friends, and having a good time. This is best accomplished if both servers can move past and be able to do events and etc again.
From what I have gathered, Wilo is trying to make amends, and ultimately regrets his actions. I can stand behind Wilo because to me he is ready to change for the better. I stand behind Spoony also. Before I switched to st0rm, I remember being friends with ya. I was also a temp mod on jelly a few times when Meehlimo was still around with Jelly map pack and mini aow.
Maybe after a couple months fly by, st0rm and jelly have a joint community event. Have a temp mod team composed of mods from both servers and have the maps be some of wilo's crazy shit like death_st0rm, st0rm_arach, etc? Another option would be mods for both communities against the public for both communities. I would not suggest anything st0rm vs jelly though to prevent more rage.
One issue I have seen after reading all the posts is the hateful remarks. Keep posting them if you want to keep people fighting and at each other's throat. It doesn't help anything.
Ultimately, its time for a cookie after writing this :P
sineponev (13 Hours Ago), *Wyldst0rm (14 Hours Ago)
that's exactly the same as what your response to cheating in the commwar boiled down to (after going to great lengths to deny it and try to get other people blamed for it, then making a dishonest partial admission once you thought you might be busted, then it later turned out you were lying about that too...) - after the exact same process, all you can say is you aren't the only person who acts so despicably and others get away with it
to read your posts one would almost imagine you think there should be punishments for people like you... XWIS bans, that sort of thing? and you can't claim people like you should be allowed to do whatever the fuck you want to someone else's server, because look at what you threatened to do to xpert when you thought he was attacking you.
you're right about one thing though, you don't actually care (despite occasionally pretending you do); because you're obviously a sociopath
uh...Originally Posted by some dumbass
1. repeatedly crashing someone else's server without the slightest provocation, continually lying about doing so, and trying to get other people blamed for it
2. calling wilo a ----, which he is
if you can't see the difference, you can't see the difference
I keep see people saying this but the fact is player numbers are going up with this topic ? server was full most of yesterday with loads of old names in game .
and the forums have never been so active.
not sure what ppl want to now come from this topic ?
are they hopeing that if they name and shame so much that all players will leave the server and hate the owners ??
its not going to happen as humans are funny creatures .
like in life
the public realy couldnt give a shit what the president did they will still support him and visit his country and forget and forgive his actions over night .
No, I don't care because this is the fucking internet, its a god damn game, and the fact that you are all getting worked up over something that will have no effect on ones life down the road is kinda sad imo.
Whats done is done. Your all making a huge fuss, stop your crying. Its over.
All people are doing now is adding fuel to the fire, making comments that are not needed.
Now I have to deal with comments like this: «00:28:03» {Duck} wilo you have the likeability of a hitler youth, and speaking of hitler, if that lazy bastard had completed his mission we wouldnt be having this problem
So you tell me who is being immature at this point.
~Long Live St0rm~
Honestly Wilo.. You cheated. So good luck getting Iran off of your dick because he was all over mine when I used RGH on Jelly. He's a troll thats not gonna leave you now.
In my eyes, you're no different than any other cheater in Renegade. But because you're a server owner people are going to be a little more harsh on you. But hey, I cheated before too, I'm sure many of use have used RGH before, maybe some just not caught, not saying you used RGH because I don't know exactly, and I'm not saying it's okay, all I am saying is that even Liquid forgave me and unbanned me off of his server. We all deserve second chances. When second chances are going to be givento you, however, only time will tell.. Lots of time from the looks of things.
Yes, you attacked Jelly many times, but in the big picture, is Jelly still functioning? Does it look like they lost any players? Are they collapsing now because you attacked them? No.. People complained on Jelly obviously, but its still there. Its not like you destroyed a whole community.
And hey, if ANY of you were given the power to crash any server without being detected, would you? Some wouldn't but im sure many of you would, not saying I would.. My rep is already shitty.
But seriously.. Nothing was terribley ruined in Ren. EVERYTHING is still functioning just like before this happened. We need to give Wilo time to SHOW and to PROVE to us that he DOES regret what he did.
This flaming and hatred posts are only making things worse in the midst of things and this will never be over until y'all shut up.
-Cyanide.
Made By: ThunderStruck
wow now thats a statement . being my grandfather was polish . that realy offends more than just one person here .
.«00:28:03» {Duck} wilo you have the likeability of a hitler youth, and speaking of hitler, if that lazy bastard had completed his mission we wouldnt be having this problem
Cyanide (12 Hours Ago)
this from the guy who ddoses and hacks people over "a god damn game", but when people call you a dick for doing this (cos you are one), they're "making a huge fuss"
sigh... listen to yourself
as for "second chances", remember that pm you sent me some time ago saying how you've totally changed from the ---- you used to be? guess rehab didnt work
and it would take a lot more than a joke in terrible taste from duck to make someone else the bad guy, so nice try. his joke isn't as bad as your actions. btw i wasn't being rhetorical or trying to be funny when i called you a sociopath, i genuinely think you have a serious psychological disorder
btw can we hear a little less about how the problem is not what wilo did but the response of his victims? unless people simply enjoy making themselves look stupid
Spoony, when are you going to realize this is done and over with. I am not going to get sucked into this more than it has already taken me in.
I put so much effort into crashing jelly! I opened command prompt... I created a bat file... and I clicked a button... a script kiddie could do what I did. If you honestly have such a simple exploit on your server you are asking for it. Now this doesn't justify what I did but by all means please fix your fucking server.
And about iran, I already told raven, Iran also did this to Jelly, he was one of the people who knew I did it and also was doing it. Funny huh? Your little friend who plays all sides? He was one of the people who you trust so much yet he was blowing shit up to...
Oh well
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