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Video for mac|1*tc [message #99911]

Tue, 06 July 2004 12:03

gibberish
Messages: 366
Registered: May 2003

Karma:

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mac

Client side cheats, the ones that RenGuard blocks are far more dangerous..

Presumably you mean dangerous to the community as a whole.

However I believe the real "danger" of cheats is uncertainty, in that if someone kills you and you can't be sure if it was legit, its more of a problem than when you know they cheated. If you know they cheated you just ban them, however if your not sure you start suspecting all good players of cheating after a while.

From the uncertainty standpoint I think that server side cheats are equally dangerous, however there is a lot of stuff that can be done server side that simply can't be done client side.

Although I agree with your position about not releasing binary versions of the BHS development versions of scripts.dll I do not think there remains any significant advantage to keeping any Renegade "Tricks" secret because the only people you are really harming is those with a legitimate interest in enhancing the game.

With the code that has already been made public I could quite easily flood the community with server side hacks most of which would be pretty much undetectable and some of which I will guarentee are undetectable.

Note: I am defining undetectable to be undetectable to players assuming nothing special such as renguard is running on the server.

Additionally I see little point in Renguard enforcing cheat protection server side since a server admin can simply add themselves to the ignore list then run a client side cheat if they want.

Or for that matter they could just stop running renguard on their server.

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		Video for mac\|1*tc By: zeph on Sat, 03 July 2004 17:32
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: [HLOW]Tomten on Sun, 04 July 2004 03:12
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: xptek_disabled on Sun, 04 July 2004 03:20
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Majiin Vegeta on Sun, 04 July 2004 05:03
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: zeph on Sun, 04 July 2004 07:03
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: mac on Sun, 04 July 2004 07:44
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: xptek_disabled on Sun, 04 July 2004 09:53
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 05 July 2004 01:06
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: icedog90 on Mon, 05 July 2004 01:36
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: DanSolo on Mon, 05 July 2004 07:29
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: mac on Mon, 05 July 2004 07:47
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: zeph on Mon, 05 July 2004 14:52
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: icedog90 on Mon, 05 July 2004 22:43
		Re: Video for mac\|1*tc By: gibberish on Mon, 05 July 2004 23:19
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: gibberish on Mon, 05 July 2004 23:59
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: DanSolo on Tue, 06 July 2004 00:59
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Aircraftkiller on Tue, 06 July 2004 01:06
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: mac on Tue, 06 July 2004 02:07
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: DanSolo on Tue, 06 July 2004 06:31
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: mac on Tue, 06 July 2004 08:43
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: HELLBILLY DELUXE on Tue, 06 July 2004 10:14
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: zeph on Tue, 06 July 2004 10:29
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: gibberish on Tue, 06 July 2004 12:03
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Crimson on Tue, 06 July 2004 16:47
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: DanSolo on Wed, 07 July 2004 03:59
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: dead6re on Wed, 07 July 2004 04:27
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: gibberish on Wed, 07 July 2004 11:41
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: gibberish on Wed, 07 July 2004 11:46
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: TwI$Ta on Sat, 10 July 2004 10:59
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Blazer on Sat, 10 July 2004 16:08
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Sir Kane on Sat, 10 July 2004 16:09
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Ty.m. on Sat, 10 July 2004 19:14
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Blazer on Sun, 11 July 2004 02:15
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Sir Kane on Sun, 11 July 2004 02:24
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Ty.m. on Sun, 11 July 2004 11:08
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Blazer on Mon, 12 July 2004 00:35
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Ty.m. on Mon, 12 July 2004 01:00
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Ty.m. on Mon, 12 July 2004 01:12
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Jaspah on Mon, 12 July 2004 07:31
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Sir Kane on Mon, 12 July 2004 07:56
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Ty.m. on Mon, 12 July 2004 11:55
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: renegay3 on Thu, 29 July 2004 02:05
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: TwI$Ta on Sun, 01 August 2004 14:30
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: imortalfu on Sun, 01 August 2004 23:20
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Weirdo on Mon, 02 August 2004 00:21
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: imortalfu on Mon, 02 August 2004 02:20
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Weirdo on Mon, 02 August 2004 02:31
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: Crimson on Mon, 02 August 2004 14:56
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: chickendippers on Tue, 03 August 2004 13:44
		Video for mac\|1*tc By: -\|XS\|-Scarface on Thu, 05 August 2004 03:13

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