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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97764] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 06:46   |
msgtpain
Messages: 663
Registered: March 2003
Location: Montana
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Nice try crimson.. but you left out the "most important" lines, which show exactly what genkozar was really refering to.. Here, let me help
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[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:10] scythar: This was RG but it was causing issues...
[13:07] [@GameBot]: [15:10] genlkozar: renguard causes skin cancer too
[13:08] [@GameBot]: [15:11] genlkozar: servers crash all the time, then when rengaurd comes out everyone blames it on renguard
[13:08] [@GameBot]: [15:12] htmlgod15: yeah seriously
[13:10] [@GameBot]: [15:13] genlkozar: rengaurd made my wife leave me for another man
[13:10] [@GameBot]: [15:14] genlkozar: rengaurd assassinated Kennedy AND Lincoln
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Someone asked if the server was running renguard,
Scythar said "it was, but it was causing issues"
at which point, genlkozar began in on us about how we are basically "full of shit" and the jokes began.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97786] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 09:16 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7429
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Like I said, my brother's knowledge of all this stuff is limited at best and he didn't and still doesn't know the full story about why you guys aren't running it, and I consequently don't think it's fair to pass judgement on him when he didn't know any better. He doesn't care about the backgrounds and he only picks up parts of conversations about things that Blazer and I talk about.
I'm the bawss.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97811] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 10:17 |
patonite
Messages: 7
Registered: September 2003
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Crimson it appears that the BHS team is aware of the RG SSC issues as they relate to the pits server, so you, as an admin on the pits server and the spear head for the BHS and RG, should exercise some control over your other representatives including your own brother.
Please tell me that you disciplined your brother and ACK for making comments on our server laying the blame on us as opposed to the RG SSC. Your brother's lack of knowledge is a poor excuse for insulting your friends.
I see that you immediately intervene when your brother is kicked or when RG is talked about, however I didn’t see you jump in right after those comments and denounce the assertion that "the pits is the problem and not RG".
It would have been a loyal move on your part to protect your friends at the pits and set the record straight instead you laughed! We at the pits have always backed you and your network; we also backed and promoted RG the least that you and your associates could have done is reciprocate!
I can sympathies with all the user issues that BHS is faced with and all the unwarranted blame placed on RG, but your team and in particular "you" know damn well that is not the case with the pits however you allow your so called Technical Support person aka ACK to part take in making fun of the pits for not using RG.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97824] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 10:40 |
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Crimson
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Registered: February 2003
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Uhhh... I'm not his MOTHER, I'm his sister. I apologize on his behalf for the embarrassment you endured by his inferences, and I apologize for not educating him on the particulars. However, I spend little enough time with my brother and I'm not going to sit down and go over every server on the list and make sure he only makes fun of the ones that suck.
My brother isn't interested in anything except killing people in game, and that the people killing him aren't cheating.
And as far as ACK goes, he wasn't paying attention to the start of the conversation, he just saw people joking about RG and joined in, and he stopped when Jarhead asked him to. Unlike people in IRC, players in-game can often miss parts of conversation when they are busy actually playing the game, therefore I find no discipline necessary.
I'm the bawss.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97826] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 10:41 |
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Crimson
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Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Instead of forcing others to use your product, support those that do use your product. Making fun of a large amount of your clients because they choose to take off your product to stop their servers from crashing is not a smart business move. It only makes you look less like a professional corporation and more like a pack of wolves.
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That's what we do... if you read the thread you'd know this.
I'm the bawss.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97830] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 10:52 |
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Crimson
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The whole point of this thread is that my brother didn't know why the pits wasn't running RG, just that he likes to play in a cheat-free game and that the Pits wasn't running it. He also knows how cheaters like to make up all kinds of excuses as to why they can't use RenGuard. He doesn't give a damn about stupid politics and he didn't know that there was a good reason for it to not be running on the pits. A reason I respect and understand. My brother isn't a member of BHS nor does he care about anything further than playing and not playing with cheaters, ACK didn't know the conversation started out from making fun of the Pits, and therefore it's all just a huge misunderstanding that was blown out of proportion either when Jarhead made "RenGuard" a swear word or when I posted on the admins forum that I thought it was over the line to do so... take your pick.
I'm the bawss.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97860] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 11:56 |
patonite
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Registered: September 2003
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I laid blame on msgtpain, not you or anyone else. So stop attacking me and get your damn facts straight.
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My facts are straight; when you attack msgtpain you attack the pits and all its members. Yes we do believe in loyalty and friendship.
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It'd be nice if you can figure out what you're talking about instead of trying to find a way to attack me whenever your "I'm holier than thou" mentality gives you an opportunity to do so.
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If you are not in the tech support for BHS, then stay the hell away from helping people, disconnecting and reconnecting servers and pretending to be the know it all.
This is not about you; it is about your involvement in RG. I take no pleasure in pointing out your behavior however that is what and who you are. Either live with it and accept it, or change your ways.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97878] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 13:16 |
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C4Kitty
Messages: 35
Registered: February 2003
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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For reference so you can judge for yourself what happened, here are the logs:
[13:05] [@GameBot]: [15:09] ArmedZagi: zibabwe u use big head?
[13:05] [@GameBot]: [15:09] htmlgod15: not in a renguard server
[13:05] [@GameBot]: [15:09] magiczs99: no he doesnt
[13:05] [@GameBot]: [15:09] htmlgod15: lol
[13:05] [@GameBot]: [15:09] ArmedZagi: k
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:09] scythar: This isn't RG
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:09] htmlgod15: it isn't?
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:09] scythar: Nope
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:09] magiczs99: rengaurd sucks anyways
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:10] genlkozar: motd said it was
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:10] ArmedZagi: ya
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:10] scythar: True
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:10] genlkozar: of course cheaters think renguard sux
[13:06] [@GameBot]: [15:10] scythar: This was RG but it was causing issues...
[13:07] [@GameBot]: [15:10] genlkozar: renguard causes skin cancer too
-- insert a bunch of jokes about RenGuard burning toast, etc... at which point Jarhead says:
[13:19] [@GameBot]: [15:23] Host: (Jarhead): enough jupiter
... ACK stops making jokes, genlkozar (my brother) cracks a few more. A few minutes later they are talking about RA and C4Kitty mentions that her RA CD burned when her office burned...
[13:23] [@GameBot]: [15:27] genlkozar: rengaurd burned c4kittes room to the ground
[13:23] [@GameBot]: [15:27] Host: This is auto-warning number 1 genlkozar, you'll only get 3.
[13:24] [@GameBot]: [15:28] genlkozar: renguard
[13:24] [@GameBot]: [15:28] Host: This is auto-warning number 2 genlkozar, you'll only get 3.
At that point Jarhead had added "RenGuard" to the swear filter. When the map ended...
[13:34] [@GameBot]: [15:38] genlkozar: well that was enough ownage for one server, gotta go to one that wont kick me for saying renguard
[13:34] [@GameBot]: [15:38] Host: This is auto-warning number 3 genlkozar, you'll only get 3.
[13:34] [@GameBot]: [15:38] JupitersK: LOL
[13:34] [@GameBot]: [15:38] JupitersK: I didn't know RG was a bad word now
[13:34] [@GameBot]: [15:38] htmlgod15: RENGUARD
[13:34] [@GameBot]: [15:38] Host: This is auto-warning number 1 htmlgod15, you'll only get 3.
[13:35] [@GameBot]: [15:38] scythar: Only for him 
[13:35] [@GameBot]: [15:38] JupitersK: lol
[13:35] [@GameBot]: [15:38] htmlgod15: lol
And that's it... you can be the judge.
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well perhaps what isn't up there was the fact that i was paging genlkoz to stop with the jokes... warning him that he was pushing it... yet he continued... this was more than a few wise cracks...
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97881] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 13:37 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Registered: February 2003
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My facts are straight; when you attack msgtpain you attack the pits and all its members. Yes we do believe in loyalty and friendship.
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Okay, so when he tells people he's removing it and "fix your fucking program," as if it's my fault that it doesn't work, I guess with your logic that would be an attack on all of BHS?
It was between msgtpain and myself, not you.
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If you are not in the tech support for BHS, then stay the hell away from helping people, disconnecting and reconnecting servers and pretending to be the know it all.
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There is no "Tech support," we all do our part to help this community in whatever way we can. If you can't accept that, shut the fuck up or find something else to whine about.
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This is not about you; it is about your involvement in RG. I take no pleasure in pointing out your behavior however that is what and who you are. Either live with it and accept it, or change your ways.
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You haven't got any idea of who I am or what I am. Once again, take your "I'm holier than thou" garbage and find something better to do than whine.
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| The Pits allows cheaters on their server? [message #97903] |
Mon, 28 June 2004 14:33 |
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England
Messages: 618
Registered: February 2003
Location: High Wycombe, England
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FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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so no wonder it sucked but now it will not "suck" like u say 
