| The AMT Sucks. [message #80048] |
Wed, 14 April 2004 19:17  |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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That's right, the alternative minimum tax is super-poopy.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2098757/
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #80078] |
Wed, 14 April 2004 20:14  |
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It's only right to you because you believe all that left-wing propaganda.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #80363] |
Thu, 15 April 2004 14:14 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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Thank you, al franken, for that thorougly propagandized speech.
Now i'll dump my head in a bucket of ice water to relieve the headache.
0m9 4l Fr4nk3n i5 t3h n008i5h
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #94027] |
Wed, 09 June 2004 18:47 |
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It's only right to you because you believe all that left-wing propaganda.
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It's only wrong to you because you believe all that right-wing propaganda. :rolleyes:
Personally, I do not believe this "OMGSECRUTTAXXX" thing, it just sounds like real bullshit, but you don't have to put everyone of us in the same damn bag! Doubt that you'd like that if I would.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #94081] |
Wed, 09 June 2004 22:27 |
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gibberish
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While I don't want to get in the middle of who's tax/fault it is I do think that both parties should make a serious effort to fix (read abolish) AMT.
To be frank I don't see the need for it, surely it would be better to fix the "normal" tax code instead of inventing yet another tax to further complicate things.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #94302] |
Thu, 10 June 2004 16:56 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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sigh...more ndp supporters.
poor bastards haven't got a chance in hell in forming a government. Their policies are too unclear, and poorly planned.
Gotta love that tommy douglas, though. I'll give the NDP that.
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #94575] |
Fri, 11 June 2004 14:52 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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It would be neat if McCain ousts Bush in a Republican Brokeridge convention this election year. Then we would have a McCain/Kerry election, McCain would probably win, and then he would set about fixing all of Bush's problems.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #94590] |
Fri, 11 June 2004 15:30 |
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sigh...more ndp supporters.
poor bastards haven't got a chance in hell in forming a government. Their policies are too unclear, and poorly planned.
Gotta love that tommy douglas, though. I'll give the NDP that.
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Is that the only thing you can say?
Who cares if they don't form a governement? We still need to give them a chance to be heard.
And it's not like if I kept trashing the Conservative Party for being a bunch of 'rednecks'.
Personally I'd rather have a green left governement than one that wants to trash the Kyoto treaty which (BY THE WAY) hasn't ruined our economy.
I got my whole pro-Liberal family to vote for them only because I encouraged them to listen to their ideology.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96242] |
Sat, 19 June 2004 20:19 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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lol
All that I'm saying is that i strongly disprove of the NDP and it's policies. They don't allow indivudual mp's/candidates to have their own opinions, and they MUST follow the party line. Futhermore, every NDP government ever elected (provincially, they've never been federally elected) has driven the provinces finances into the ground, sometimes into bankruptcy. I love tommy douglas, but the NDP of his day is far from the one that exists today. They want to tax and spend, but they refuse to cut anything, or control spending.
And those are my reasons for notlinking the NDP. It's not an issue of "look at those hippy left wing wackos' it's 'i don't think they're fiscally or socially responsible to the needs of Canadians'. They have their own aganeda, and they want to run wild with it regardless of what the rest of Canada thinks.
But I will say that i DO think we should keep kyoto and I will be in touch with my conservative MP about that. I'm not afraid to tell him that i disagree.
You won't see kyoto scrapped anyways, not under a minority government. No big, controversial changes are happening anytime soon. Wait for the sponsorship report to come out, when we'll have another election in which the liberals get wiped out and a conservative majority forms. People will see the conservatives aren't scary right-wingers like Martin ahs claimed them to be, and they'll be encouraged to vote for them.
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96244] |
Sat, 19 June 2004 20:22 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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McCain/kerry will never happen, kerry said it the other day (we knew it all along, anyways)
personally, i would like to see McCain oust Bush. I was for him back in 2000. But i digress. I'd rather see a republican in office than a democrat, and for purely ideological reasons (in the states, anyways. You guys exert WAY too much foreign pressure on other countries [I.E. mine] for me to want to see a democrat in office in the states.)
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96246] |
Sat, 19 June 2004 20:38 |
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I'd like to remind you that even if the provincial parties have the same name has the federal ones, they almost nothing related to each other.
Take for example the Liberal party in Québec, they're led by a former conservative candidate and they have nothing to do with federal one.
Plus, do you ever visit the candidates' websites? They have their own opinion, what you said could also apply to that conservative guy who was asked to "shut up" because his opinion was diferent.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96678] |
Tue, 22 June 2004 14:57 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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i am aware of the differences between the provincial and federal wings of parties, yes, but they DO follow the same ideological and political guidelines. Looking at layton's platform and proposed policies, it is easy to see that while he claims he will fund everything, he isn't willing to control spending or cut anything, which will end up being necessary. This is what i think was the problem of these provincial NDP wings.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96680] |
Tue, 22 June 2004 15:14 |
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What you just said just proves that you're not actually following the campaign that much.
He NEVER said that he would fund EVERYTHING, that's just plain idiocy coming from you and from whoever taught you that.
It's obvious that the government needs a reform, it's not like they're going to use the old system for all the stuff they have to do.
Cutting taxes for people who make 15 000$ and under per year is a great idea.
By the way, since the recent turn around in most parties, they don't. They used to a few years ago, but you can tell it's different now.
By the way, with the recent updates we received from the Conservative party, there's a hole of (if I recall what I heard yesterday) around 4 billion dollars in their budget, now where are they going to get this money? Hum?
Also, what Liberals and Conservatives are proposing about homosexual marriages is just plain bullshit, there's already a clause in the constitution about this... It's up to the churches, temples and everything else to decide if they either want to let them get married in their church or not.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96687] |
Tue, 22 June 2004 15:53 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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so I'm an idiot, now am I? Surprise surprise, disagree with a left winger and this is what you get.
I saw the debates, I've read laytons platform. He wants to FUND and FUND and FUND but he hasn't said where he's going to get ALL THE MONEY.
So where is it going to come from?
HIGHER TAXES
And even those won't cover it. The NDP is too left-wing, and their ideological positions are simply UNNACCEPTABLE. Further more, their platform has been noted by economists to be fiscally irresponsible.
And if you're wondering where all the money is going to come from for the Conservative platform, I think that has been made clear. Harper plans to cut subsidies to businesses (which he well should - government has no place propping up businesses) as well as shrinking government (which has swelled to gigantic proportions under martin) and controlling spending.
he gets my vote on the 28th, and that's why i volunteer with my local conservative candidate. I've convinced all my friends to vote conservative too.
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96765] |
Tue, 22 June 2004 23:39 |
Neo
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Seeing how my wife is a Teacher, I can honestly say that they are underpaid.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96808] |
Wed, 23 June 2004 07:48 |
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K9Trooper
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Neo and I talked about this last night, but I need to say it here.
Teachers get paid 35,000 starting for 9 monthst of work. That is $11,666.67 every 3 months. If it was a year round job, they would get paid almost $47,000 for a full year. This is not including the health and retirement benifits. Remember this is starting.
Firefighter and cops... Start at about $25,000 - $28,000 a year. We work more hours and we put our lives in danger EVERY day we work. FF won't break the $55,000 barrier, unless we become an officer. But officers are a very small group. So not everyone will see that through their entire career.
R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #96820] |
Wed, 23 June 2004 08:46 |
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And if you're wondering where all the money is going to come from for the Conservative platform, I think that has been made clear. Harper plans to cut subsidies to businesses (which he well should - government has no place propping up businesses) as well as shrinking government (which has swelled to gigantic proportions under martin) and controlling spending.
he gets my vote on the 28th, and that's why i volunteer with my local conservative candidate. I've convinced all my friends to vote conservative too.
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1. I just need to point out one thing about what you said first:
You are NOT an idiot, I said your source was of information was.
2. Sure, and I presume that the Conservatives don't want to "FUND and FUND and FUND".
3. Higher taxes for the RICH class.
4. Boo-hoo, they're too left wing, boo-hoo. The Conservatives had my support before the election began, I'm not a "left-wing guy" or a "right-wing guy", I'm just an observator, but of course since you said you were for the right-wing, left-wing stuff is obviously inacceptable for you.
5. Analysts took that in consideration, you still have a hole.
6. I'm not wondering, I know, it's been suggested by the NDP before the election, Harper just stole their idea.
7. Good for you, I'm not going to disagree with your political choice.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| The AMT Sucks. [message #98703] |
Thu, 01 July 2004 18:41 |
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amid_tha_rubble
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lol fell for the liberal attack ads, eh?
Not good for the rich? Are you aware that Harper's tax cuts would give at least $1000+ to EVERY canadian family? Even more would have been given to poorer candians, despite what Martin would have us think. Harper was also for democratic and senatorial reform, as well as greater transparency in government - the libs are happy to keep everything appointed and cronied, and to throw everything off to the courts.
We couldn't have sent troops to iraq even if we wanted too, because the liberal governments have cut back the military as much as possible. Our guys and gals are over in afghanistan dying in iltas' and our air force is dying in Sea kings.
the liberals are the worst party we could have chosen to govern us...again.
And if you'r talking about health care, then what about the 25 billion Paul martin cut from the system when he was finance minister? Since the libs have been in power waiting lists have gotten longer, beds, doctors and nurses have disappeared, and Canadians are dying on wait lists. Martin has no room to talk on health care. Not only that, but quebec has 17 PRIVATE MRI CLINICS. Paul martin was content to harp on the west and Klein, while conveniently ignoring his OWN HOME PROVINCE'S PRIVATE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
Thanks for chickening out Ontario. You'll get the government you deserve, the one you voted for - A corrupt, cronied, appointed, undemocratic, thieving den of liberals who are content to split the country again and again.
Adscam, the national 'UNITY' fund? Yeah, all that did was ensure that MORE SEPERATISTS ended up in power in quebec. Martin played regions against each other, east vs. West, Ontario vs. Quebec, etc. etc.
I'm not going to respond to this anymore because i'm disgusted with it, but let's just say we'll get what we asked for - unfortunately.
Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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