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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94214] |
Thu, 10 June 2004 12:06   |
KIRBY098
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sigh.
NEVER give a camera interview without a witness to verify your statements.
K9, remember when they issued that order not to speak about the Iraq war (#1) because leftists were deleting parts and making it look like the military was unhappy with president Bush?
Grr..
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94717] |
Fri, 11 June 2004 20:36 |
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And I supposed your never spent a part of your day listening to what he says because... Well, because.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94824] |
Sat, 12 June 2004 12:07 |
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Because I instead spent it on a site that shows all his lies. Now if I ever hear what that idiot has to say I can just laugh at the presentation.
I'm the bawss.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94835] |
Sat, 12 June 2004 13:19 |
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And how can you tell if they're lies or not? Simple, because like the majority of Americans, you don't know.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94856] |
Sat, 12 June 2004 15:12 |
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liberator
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The problem is he passes his crap off as fact when in truth it is opinion dressed in out of context statements to make it look like fact.
Michael Moore does not make Documentaries. Documentaries are films that tell of actual events. Mr. Moore's film have a very divisive political bent to them along the lines of "America's Sucks, I hate it, and here's why you should too".
Next to true documentary makers he's a joke.
There was a time when people were impressed that I have the firepower to decimate a planet in under 10 minutes.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94901] |
Sat, 12 June 2004 18:23 |
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Alright, after two days of looking at Micheal's stuff and the so called "anti-Micheal Moore" stuff, I can tell that some of the stuff he says his infact true, but the rest is not, it's impossible to agree with everything both sides say.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94907] |
Sat, 12 June 2004 18:58 |
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Because I instead spent it on a site that shows all his lies. Now if I ever hear what that idiot has to say I can just laugh at the presentation.
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the same lies as bush and powell told UN about their socalled "proof" that iraq had weapons of mass destruction? and that was prooved by a examination of their prociedures(cant remeber the correct spelling) before the war and was shown in 60 minutes, for once the aluminum cylinders that was supposed to be used for nuclear weapons could never have been used for any type of mass destruction's weapon only for normal iraqi missiles
I Believe In Power, Wisdom And Courage
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #94952] |
Sun, 13 June 2004 01:57 |
NHJ BV
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So they found remnants of stuff that could be used to make WMD's, but might as well not...the articles doesn't say how old those engine parts were, btw, I'd like to know that.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95047] |
Sun, 13 June 2004 14:46 |
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How do I know who's telling the truth? Because the anti-Michael Moore sites have factual information. If Michael Moore conveniently edits a speech, the anti-MM site digs up a transcript of the speech and you can clearly see where he eliminated most of the speech to change its intended meaning. And that's just one example. It's not that I 'believe' the anti-MM site... they present the facts logically.
I'm the bawss.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95114] |
Sun, 13 June 2004 19:22 |
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Javaxcx
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
WARNING: SCRAP METAL ALERT.
One site says Saddam COULD have shipped out WMD components, the other says he did for certain. Since the latter hasn't shown any conclusive proof outside saying:
"The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003."
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"The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war."
I could very easily spam this kind of information online to justify my war, too. I don't know if the World Tribune is Republican or not, but if it is, I'm not surprised.
The former site says:
"UNITED NATIONS (AP) - U.N. weapons experts have found 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in a Jordan scrapyard along with other equipment which could be used to make weapons of mass destruction, an official said Wednesday."
If they're going to pull the hypothetical card, I'm going to say that he might NOT have made weapons of mass destruction too.
Please note that I'm not condoning Saddam Hussien. I'm approaching this war extremely objectively.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95144] |
Sun, 13 June 2004 20:35 |
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I don't actually dislike Mr. Moore, I don't like him either but that is beside the point. His method of attracting attention to himself for his self aggrandizement is pathetic. He is nothing but a tool for the Left in America and Abroad.
It makes sense when you think about it.
The Left considers America to be the focus of evil in the modern world, no matter what it is, it's America's fault.
The Ozone Hole in Antartica?
The Left: It the dirty American's fault. They drive SUVs and pollute.
In actuality, as science is proving, the hole in the ozone layer is a natural effect and is part of the cyclical nature of the Earth's atmosphere.
Global Warming?
The Left: It the dirty American's fault. They drive SUVs and pollute.
In actuality, as science is proving, the hole in the ozone layer is a natural effect and is part of the cyclical nature of the Earth's biosphere.
The War in Iraq?
The Left: It's America's fault! Hussein is as pure as the wind driven snow.
In truth, as an American, I can say(with a degree of sadness) that Bush may have mislead us when he claimed WMDs in Iraq. But, I look at it like this.
1. We(The USA) are finishing what we should have finished a decade ago in the Gulf War.
2. He(Bush) was made aware of something that precipitated the war and cannot tell the Public without either A) endangering a larger segment of the population or B)would embarrass one of our allies.(the Food for Oil scandal at the UN anyone?)
3. It's part of a longer term operation to eliminate Islamic Theocracies in the middle east and thus remove a large portion of the support for international Terror Groups and eventually create a more permanent peace.
The goverance of a free nation must be secular to fufill it's oblications to it's citizens equally. However, Leaders of said governances must have a strong foundation in ethics and morality that comes from religion to lead well.
There was a time when people were impressed that I have the firepower to decimate a planet in under 10 minutes.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95175] |
Sun, 13 June 2004 23:52 |
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
WARNING: SCRAP METAL ALERT.
One site says Saddam COULD have shipped out WMD components, the other says he did for certain. Since the latter hasn't shown any conclusive proof outside saying:
"The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003."
and
"The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war."
I could very easily spam this kind of information online to justify my war, too. I don't know if the World Tribune is Republican or not, but if it is, I'm not surprised.
The former site says:
"UNITED NATIONS (AP) - U.N. weapons experts have found 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in a Jordan scrapyard along with other equipment which could be used to make weapons of mass destruction, an official said Wednesday."
If they're going to pull the hypothetical card, I'm going to say that he might NOT have made weapons of mass destruction too.
Please note that I'm not condoning Saddam Hussien. I'm approaching this war extremely objectively.
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You are not approaching it objectively. If you were you would say..."Saddam is dirty bad motherfucker who needs his ass kicked."
Oh, and the' could'. He is not going to make toasters with these parts. What the fuck do you think he will do with rocket engines and metal peices that were used in missiles?
If you took apart a minute man ICBM and threw it in the back of a truck not many people would know what it was. So a hunk of metal scraps can end up as a dangerous weapon.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95180] |
Mon, 14 June 2004 00:27 |
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Given the nature of this madman Saddam I would assume the worst instead of being a bleeding heart and assume less.
We underestimated the capabilities of Al Qaeda and lost 3000+ lives on 9/11... why make the same mistake again?
I'm the bawss.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95197] |
Mon, 14 June 2004 05:10 |
NHJ BV
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We underestimated the capabilities of Al Qaeda and lost 3000+ lives on 9/11... why make the same mistake again?
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Apart from whether or not I agree with this, it's this kind of comments that make people believe Saddam had ties with Al-Qaeda.
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I don't actually dislike Mr. Moore, I don't like him either but that is beside the point. His method of attracting attention to himself for his self aggrandizement is pathetic. He is nothing but a tool for the Left in America and Abroad.
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Not all the left supports Moore. I do not consider him objective or anything.
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It makes sense when you think about it.
The Left considers America to be the focus of evil in the modern world, no matter what it is, it's America's fault.
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Sure, whatever.
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The Ozone Hole in Antartica?
The Left: It the dirty American's fault. They drive SUVs and pollute.
In actuality, as science is proving, the hole in the ozone layer is a natural effect and is part of the cyclical nature of the Earth's atmosphere.
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Over the years, certain chemicals and other stuff used in fridges (CFC's) have been banned from use, which could very well explain the closing of the gap. Depletion of ozone is not as much caused by cars as it is by aforementioned fridges, spray propellors and other industrial uses.
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Global Warming?
The Left: It the dirty American's fault. They drive SUVs and pollute.
In actuality, as science is proving, the hole in the ozone layer is a natural effect and is part of the cyclical nature of the Earth's biosphere.
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It has not by far been proven to what extent human activity affects the current climatological change, but that it has at least some effect is quite clear.
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The War in Iraq?
The Left: It's America's fault! Hussein is as pure as the wind driven snow.
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This only deserves a :rolleyes:
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In truth, as an American, I can say(with a degree of sadness) that Bush may have mislead us when he claimed WMDs in Iraq. But, I look at it like this.
1. We(The USA) are finishing what we should have finished a decade ago in the Gulf War.
2. He(Bush) was made aware of something that precipitated the war and cannot tell the Public without either A) endangering a larger segment of the population or B)would embarrass one of our allies.(the Food for Oil scandal at the UN anyone?)
3. It's part of a longer term operation to eliminate Islamic Theocracies in the middle east and thus remove a large portion of the support for international Terror Groups and eventually create a more permanent peace.
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Yes, we can clearly see the peace in the middle east. Tensions are higher than ever with little sign of recovery and support for groups like Al-Qaeda is skyrocketing.
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The governance of a free nation must be secular to fufill it's oblications to it's citizens equally. However, Leaders of said governances must have a strong foundation in ethics and morality that comes from religion to lead well.
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Iraq was a very secular nation. And I fail to see why morals must come from religion.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95281] |
Mon, 14 June 2004 14:21 |
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Javaxcx
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You are not approaching it objectively. If you were you would say..."Saddam is dirty bad motherfucker who needs his ass kicked."
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ob·jec·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-jktv)
adj.
Uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices
While I'm not perfect, I'm trying to attack this war as objectively as possible.
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Oh, and the' could'. He is not going to make toasters with these parts.
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Thats the beauty of the hypothetical card, friend. He could potentially make an army of toasters.
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What the fuck do you think he will do with rocket engines and metal peices that were used in missiles?
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What I see here are some piles of scrap metal being labelled Saddam's personal missle arsonal. For starters, there is no proof outside saying "Iraq has shipped out scrap metal, therefore this scrap is automatically Iraq's", when in reality, (while it's unlikely, but not impossible), that might not necessarily have come from Iraq.
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If you took apart a minute man ICBM and threw it in the back of a truck not many people would know what it was. So a hunk of metal scraps can end up as a dangerous weapon.
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Well, I could also throw a can a potassium and a can of nitrate into the back of a truck too. That doesn't mean I'm going to make gun powder.
Sniper Extraordinaire
Read the FUD Rules before you come in and make an ass of yourself.
All your base are belong to us.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
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| Michael Moore Has Competition. [message #95289] |
Mon, 14 June 2004 14:36 |
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Nodbugger
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You are not approaching it objectively. If you were you would say..."Saddam is dirty bad motherfucker who needs his ass kicked."
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ob·jec·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-jktv)
adj.
Uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices
While I'm not perfect, I'm trying to attack this war as objectively as possible.
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Oh, and the' could'. He is not going to make toasters with these parts.
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Thats the beauty of the hypothetical card, friend. He could potentially make an army of toasters.
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What the fuck do you think he will do with rocket engines and metal peices that were used in missiles?
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What I see here are some piles of scrap metal being labelled Saddam's personal missle arsonal. For starters, there is no proof outside saying "Iraq has shipped out scrap metal, therefore this scrap is automatically Iraq's", when in reality, (while it's unlikely, but not impossible), that might not necessarily have come from Iraq.
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If you took apart a minute man ICBM and threw it in the back of a truck not many people would know what it was. So a hunk of metal scraps can end up as a dangerous weapon.
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Well, I could also throw a can a potassium and a can of nitrate into the back of a truck too. That doesn't mean I'm going to make gun powder.
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This is why you are an idiot.
This is Saddam we are talking about. Mass murderer? Torturer? Invaded two countries and killed millions?
I would not trust him with a butter knife.
And the fact you do makes me feel very unsafe knowing people as stupid as you exist..
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