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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92801] Sat, 05 June 2004 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Another point that seems to be absent from this discussion is that rarely it is the case that each team has only one tank on the field, and no supporting units. Renegade sucks as a 1 on 1 game. A more interesting, thought provoking chat would be what 4 mediums versus 4 arties would be like. My bet is on the arties winning if they concentrate their fire well.

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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92811] Sat, 05 June 2004 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spoonyrat is currently offline  spoonyrat
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SuperFlyingEngi

Renegade sucks as a 1 on 1 game.


1v1s are AWESOMELY fun if played on a decent and fair map (Field, Wallsfly, Cityfly, maybe Under, everything else is unfair or just sucks)

Everyone always says "1v1s don't prove anything". So what? They're fun as hell.
Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92815] Sat, 05 June 2004 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Well, I personally don;t get much enjoyment out of a 1v1 game. I can have fun in 2v2s if I'm playing with friends, cuz I think Ren's a different experience altogether when you're playing with people you know personally.

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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92816] Sat, 05 June 2004 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cowmisfit is currently offline  cowmisfit
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SuperFlyingEngi

Renegade sucks as a 1 on 1 game.


Your not in a good clan are you??
Clanning 1 on 1 is great, its you or the other guy, you don't have 20 other teammates to be morons and screw up the game and make you loose, its all your fault if you loose, its all your glory if you win.


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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92918] Sat, 05 June 2004 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SuperFlyingEngi is right, this game IS boring in 1vs1 battles. This game was made for lots of people, because of the bases, and you have to defend the base. In most other games(UT, Quake, SOF, AVP...), you don't have to defend anything, so it does not mater if you die, because you won't loose anything, and you will just respawn. In renegade, if you lose building, it matters, because buildings can't be respawned, so someone needs to defend, and someone attack. One person is not enough to defend the entire base and attack at the same time.

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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92929] Sat, 05 June 2004 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit

Your not in a good clan are you??
Clanning 1 on 1 is great, its you or the other guy, you don't have 20 other teammates to be morons and screw up the game and make you loose, its all your fault if you loose, its all your glory if you win.


You're not in a good clan are you??
If you have to worry about your clan-mates screwing up a game, you might want to look for a new clan.


Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #92974] Sun, 06 June 2004 02:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terminator 101

One person is not enough to defend the entire base and attack at the same time.

If you play the game right, you don't need to do both.
If you take an early offensive before your opponent can, you don't need to defend because he should be too busy saving his base from whatever you're doing.
Later on, once you have a good lead or whatever, you don't need to attack, just chill out and let him come to you.
Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93011] Sun, 06 June 2004 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cowmisfit is currently offline  cowmisfit
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cowmisfit

Your not in a good clan are you??
Clanning 1 on 1 is great, its you or the other guy, you don't have 20 other teammates to be morons and screw up the game and make you loose, its all your fault if you loose, its all your glory if you win.


You're not in a good clan are you??
If you have to worry about your clan-mates screwing up a game, you might want to look for a new clan.


im not speeking of my clan mates, im speeking of in regular games regular morons screwing it up, my clan mates are the best of the best, they won't screw shit up for anyone, people like you who can't even read are the ones that screw shit up moron.


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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93108] Sun, 06 June 2004 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit

people like you who can't even read are the ones that screw shit up moron.


How about people like you who can't type? You're half the problem.



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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93109] Sun, 06 June 2004 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Javaxcx

cowmisfit

people like you who can't even read are the ones that screw shit up moron.


How about people like you who can't type? You're half the problem.


Everything you just quoted is typed correctly, no typos, i can type faster and more correctly than you can ever dream.


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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93110] Sun, 06 June 2004 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I only quoted what was necessary for what I was talking about. Your spelling and grammar skills are terrible. You have no grounds for mocking other people's literacy skills when you obviously have none yourself.

Want an example? What exactly is "speeking"?



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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93117] Sun, 06 June 2004 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit

im not speeking of my clan mates, im speeking of in regular games regular morons screwing it up, my clan mates are the best of the best, they won't screw shit up for anyone, people like you who can't even read are the ones that screw shit up moron.


So quick with the insult slinging, aren't you young one. In no way was my post insulting, or even negative in any way towards you. You seem to have this problem with keeping posts clean. Just because it's the internet, doesn't mean you have to fight with everyone that talks to you. Try growing up, will you? The reason I said what I said was because they way you stated this:

cowmistfit

Clanning 1 on 1 is great, its you or the other guy, you don't have 20 other teammates


Implied you were compairing playing a clan game with 20+ teammates to a clan game one on one. Of course, if you were reading my post to see what I said, instead of with the "What can I attack back with" mentality, you would have probably caught that.

Think about that.


Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93156] Sun, 06 June 2004 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cowmisfit is currently offline  cowmisfit
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exactly playing 1 on 1 is better than a game were you have 20 teammates, because its you or the other guy, if you screw up its all on you, can't blame it on your team mates.

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Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93158] Sun, 06 June 2004 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
exnyte is currently offline  exnyte
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You have already said that. Yet, when I replied to it you jumped all over me. I wasn't disputing what you said, mearly making an observation of what you were implying.

Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93295] Mon, 07 June 2004 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SuperFlyingEngi

Another point that seems to be absent from this discussion is that rarely it is the case that each team has only one tank on the field, and no supporting units. Renegade sucks as a 1 on 1 game. A more interesting, thought provoking chat would be what 4 mediums versus 4 arties would be like. My bet is on the arties winning if they concentrate their fire well.
Actually, a med can kill an arty in 7 shots. It takes an arty 9 shots to kill a med. And the two vehicles have the same rate of fire. Assuming no repairing, 4 meds would demolish 4 arties (If you assume the arties focus fire, then it's only fair to assume the meds do too. And if the meds focus their shots, they can kill an arty in 2 volleys. It takes the arties 3 to kill a med. etc, etc. If you keep going back and forth with the volleys, the meds will win with 1 completely unharmed tank and 1 at about half health.)

This isn't realistic, though, because the arties and meds probably all have engineers or technicians inside. And once a vehicle dies, the driver will probably go repair the other vehicles.

But anyway, the real point of this whole discussion (at least the point I've been making all along) is that mobile artilleries are strong but fragile. And they work better if they've got support. That support might come from other arties, or it might come from engineers, or it might come from light tanks. Or maybe some combination of the three. But an arty should not leave home alone, because it will not survive long on its own.
Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93298] Mon, 07 June 2004 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The 4 meds vs 4 arties idea really is thought-provoking, though. What if the vehicles all have engineers? What if they're all hotwires/technicians instead? Would it be better to focus on one vehicle or to kill all four at once so that there are never any engineers out on the ground repairing? What if people get out in the middle of the fight to repair?

This is why I assumed no repairing. The problem's too complicated to have a simple answer if people do repair. Razz

(Also, what if one of the meds has a havok inside & he jumps out and snipes the engineers? etc etc etc......)
Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93344] Mon, 07 June 2004 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spoonyrat is currently offline  spoonyrat
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If the meds are driven by hotwires and the arties are driven by techs, the arties will win as soon as a vehicle or two is lost on both sides. Teched arties always beat "teched" (or should that be "hotwired") meds.
Med tank vs Artillery Fraps [message #93470] Mon, 07 June 2004 18:30 Go to previous message
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Omfg. Who gives a shit lol. The videos were fun. Massive lolz0rs over here... LOL

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