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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91189]

Sun, 30 May 2004 17:49

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Which sniper would you pick given a choice, Sakura or Black hand? Sakura's shots pack more power, but the black hand has a higher fire rate. I would choose a black hand. I dont like giving away points when i die, which happens, but not often Very Happy

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. I also like it beacuse the more experienced snipers pick black hands because they use more head shots than body shots. when you kill a black hand, you get 49 points as opposed to the 99 you get when you kill a sakura.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91190]

Sun, 30 May 2004 17:50

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belongs in this forum how? lol, this goes to tactics dude.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91430]

Mon, 31 May 2004 17:50

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oops sorry

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91593]

Tue, 01 June 2004 11:44

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Snipbravo said: ...when you kill a Black Hand, you get 49 points as opposed to the 99 you get when you kill a Sakura.

I agree. Though I like Sakura also because she has got more health (as I recall) so you are able to take falls and stuff and not die after getting hit. I say this because I jump off cliffs and such a lot (purposfully) when I am sniping someone. Anyway preferably I choose Black Hand for Snipbravo's reasons. Very Happy

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Cowmisfit said: belongs in this forum how? lol, this goes to tactics dude.

I have to agree.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91718]

Tue, 01 June 2004 18:10

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It depends on the situation (Map?, AOW?, ....)

However one other point to bear in mind in Sakura is harder to kill.
Simply put she has a smaller head than the black hand.

This is not true for GDI as Havoc and Deadeye both have the same models.

Additionally Both of the $1000 chars have more health than the other two, but this doesn't matter if you are making the headshot.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91720]

Tue, 01 June 2004 18:16

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Keep in mind bones.ini has a 3.0 ratio to neck hits, as opposed to 5.0 for the head and 1.0 for anywhere else in the body.

This means when a standard sniper rifle hits the neck, it does 3 times the normal damage. That's 100 * 3, which is 300. Since $1000 characters have 350 health in total, they can survive a neck shot.

I also find it easier to aim the ramjet, dunno why.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #91772]

Tue, 01 June 2004 21:50

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in almost any situation i would pick sakura but if you were trying to be stealthy i would go with the blackhand, if you watch sakura shoot (or havoc), you see a tracer through the air basicly telling the soldier on the ground (the one that doesn't get killed) the point of orgin. for what i've seen the blackhand doesn't have a lit bullet.

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lol [message #92653]

Fri, 04 June 2004 20:36

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #92708]

Sat, 05 June 2004 06:17

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BLACKHAND

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you don't give other team as many points, reload faster, you can hear people coming from far away like a tank or someone running because of the mic on it (yea its true, you may not have noticed it but its there go try it sometime with ramjet and you won't hear) and as long as you aim for the head its the same as shakura and you have no problem Smile

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #93138]

Sun, 06 June 2004 16:28

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I don't know why and I can't explain it, but I'd rather take the 1000 cred snipers. I can understand the advantages of a 500 cred sniper, but for some reason you feel more confident and fast paced because it can kill any unit in two shots at the most. With a black hand sniper they have more chance of escaping, especially in something like Field in the tunnels...

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #93157]

Sun, 06 June 2004 17:24

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I don't know why and I can't explain it, but I'd rather take the 1000 cred snipers. I can understand the advantages of a 500 cred sniper, but for some reason you feel more confident and fast paced because it can kill any unit in two shots at the most. With a black hand sniper they have more chance of escaping, especially in something like Field in the tunnels...

yea but, if you aim for the head then you have nothing to worry about, seeing as how the only advantage an Havoc has is the 2 shot kill.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #93166]

Sun, 06 June 2004 18:05

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Blackhand.

They are half the price of a Sakura/Havoc, so you can buy more and more of them.

And it's a little harder to tell where the sniper is when using it.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #93854]

Wed, 09 June 2004 05:13

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The way I use snipers it doesn't matter. Snipers aren't designed for action, and when you get found, you run like hell. I go for the best I can afford.

Why is everyone going on about getting headshots? I can't do it, but then I guess I'm picking off the engineers repairing tanks... when everything is shaking, worrying about a headshot isn't much...

Furthermore, I'd like to ask the more experienced snipers about hillcamping... do you do it and does it really annoy anyone else?

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #94310]

Thu, 10 June 2004 17:40

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an experienced sniper doesnt run unless he is being assaulted by a tank. I would know- I am one. An experienced sniper worth his salt could take out any light armor vehicle or infantry without running like a coward. A sniper who runs doesnt belong with his gun.

I shoot the helicopters and the people that walk by... I hate noobs... I love my sniper rifle

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #94340]

Thu, 10 June 2004 19:36

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Not the same thing I think when I make it back to base with 5 health, 10 dead enemies and a feeling like a hero.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #94548]

Fri, 11 June 2004 13:08

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snipbravo

an experienced sniper doesnt run unless he is being assaulted by a tank. I would know- I am one. An experienced sniper worth his salt could take out any light armor vehicle or infantry without running like a coward. A sniper who runs doesnt belong with his gun.

Why would you waste your ammo on a lightly armoured vehicle if you're a sniper? Anyone who wastes their ammo aforementioned, "doesn't belong with his gun".

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95149]

Sun, 13 June 2004 20:58

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snipbravo

an experienced sniper doesnt run unless he is being assaulted by a tank. I would know- I am one. An experienced sniper worth his salt could take out any light armor vehicle or infantry without running like a coward. A sniper who runs doesnt belong with his gun.

lol good one snipbravo but there is a difference between running and falling back. im sure you would agree that a 1v1 sniper game if sum1 ran from u during a fight ( would surely die in trying to from me ) IS running, but you cannot call an experienced sniper a coward for FALLING BACK when he is being assaulted from 3 sides with other experienced snipers that have sakura's unless the sniper ran back into his base which IS cowardly, the experienced sniper should find sumthing to distract one of the sakuras or try to get them all in front of him by of course FALLING BACK. If you get my point my work is done here Very Happy

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95151]

Sun, 13 June 2004 21:00

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ps.... blackhand is better only to an experienced sniper. I refer to sakuras and havocs as using the "n00b gun" because it is just that.

Well, gotta go............... snipe ya all later :twisted:
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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95226]

Mon, 14 June 2004 10:10

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Anyone who actually snipes, instead of jumping around infront of each other all game, will choose a 500 credit sniper.

They're better for sniping because they don't give you away with that big blue streak, they're quieter, reload faster, and shoot faster.

They require skill to use, and that's why you see the majority of good snipers playing in 500 sniper only servers.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95342]

Mon, 14 June 2004 19:00

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renx you are right. THe other guy was right too. Running away is defeined by running AWAY from the fight with a full pouch of ammo. Takin cover however or retreating is a different matter. You are not RUNNING, you are simply seeking a way to kill your pusuer.
A lightly armored vehilce does not waste your ammo- you are significantly damaging it because a lightly armored vehicle will die in 7 or less quixck shot(using a sniper rifle of course). After the vehicle exploded, you have a good chance of killing the pilot.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95442]

Tue, 15 June 2004 04:11

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Wasting your limited ammo on something that your team can handle with mere regular infantry is cause enough to call you an idiot. Those "7 shots" could easily land 7 kills -- which is the goal of sniping anyway.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95587]

Tue, 15 June 2004 19:55

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It all depends on the map/situation. If let's say WF is killed and they have no vehicles then i would pick a black hand (can't see where i'm sooting from). If baracks is killed then Sakura will be better 1 shot anywere on basic inf and they are dead. Very Happy

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And 4 kiling MRLS, chopers or buggus go with Sakura. if you kill ppl go with blackhand.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #95592]

Tue, 15 June 2004 20:07

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lol, Shakira

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #97140]

Fri, 25 June 2004 07:50

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I'd only run back to base if I was close to death, or close by anyway. My point was that they can't hit you if you're not there anymore. When you get spotted you go somewhere else.

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Sakura or Blackhand? [message #97158]

Fri, 25 June 2004 08:31

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I like the Blackhand because your less likely to be seen. Sakura on the other hand sacrifices stealth for a loud ramjet rifle.

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