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My Problem with Renguard [message #84000] Wed, 28 April 2004 10:53 Go to next message
kabu11 is currently offline  kabu11
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Now don't get me wrong i love that someone is even giving some kinda support to Renegade because god knows EA won't. And i would like to have something out there to say that im not cheating because i have been kicked out of sniper servers because some mod thinks im cheating. And i know you guys have worked very hard to improve our gaming experience. But the problem with the installation of Renguard is essentially it is a virus, in that you install it and it sends information about your computer to another computer. The Real-Time RenGuard Statistics banner that you have on your web site is proof of that. You have access to infomation about all the computers renguard is installed on. Now what is stoping you or someone else , that has modded the Renguard program and telling people to install it because it stops cheats, from scanning my whole hard drive and sending infomation back to themself about my system either it be about whats in my renegade folder or the internet cache to find out private information like credit card numbers and other private infomation. Now im not saying that anyone here would do that but im saying that it could be done.
My Problem with Renguard [message #84013] Wed, 28 April 2004 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chrono945 is currently offline  Chrono945
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yeh i know wot u mean.
Perhaps a thingy helping us through what information is sent?
not many ppl know VB or C++ or whatever its made in, (i know both) so they need info on what exactly is being sent. Idea
My Problem with Renguard [message #84016] Wed, 28 April 2004 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, and what about Microsoft? What stops them from taking your computer's information and ruining your financial security?

What about EA games? What stops them?

You either trust us or you don't, it's that simple... Stop making these "omg renguard is gona do something bad but i dont no wut omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 omg!!!1" threads.
My Problem with Renguard [message #84017] Wed, 28 April 2004 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have no problem with it but i can understand the ppl who say it
My Problem with Renguard [message #84018] Wed, 28 April 2004 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Honestly, fella, if anyone had wanted to find out about your private information, they could have done it in a lot easier ways than spending months developing an anti-cheat program. If you're THAT paranoid, don't use the internet from the computer you do your financial crap on (or just don't use the internet period, and save everyone else an earful of doom & gloom).

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My Problem with Renguard [message #84026] Wed, 28 April 2004 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Modified renguard .exe's are banned from the network
My Problem with Renguard [message #84028] Wed, 28 April 2004 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, and what about Microsoft? What stops them from taking your computer's information and ruining your financial security?

What about EA games? What stops them?

You either trust us or you don't, it's that simple... Stop making these "omg renguard is gona do something bad but i dont no wut omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 omg!!!1" threads.

I think that's how Microsoft pays for R&D--with credit card numbers from its unsuspecting users. No, but seriously, Microsoft is already screwing people over enough when they buy the software; there's no point to steal from them twice.
My Problem with Renguard [message #84076] Wed, 28 April 2004 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Microsoft have been know to scan harddrives and look for illegal or pirate copies of their products....if they find it they either prosecute or kill the hard drive.....But seriously who cares...you can have my credit card number....and my sort code and my account number...my bank account is locked unless i give verification through 24hour telephone security services with info only i know they wont release funds....still want it?

Besides my use of the net goes off my lan...one i play games on, one i use for office work and documents and one i use to chat with (mirc, msn, aim etc) and keep things like ftp and ssh putty on. It's no big deal.....


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My Problem with Renguard [message #84163] Thu, 29 April 2004 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kabu11 is currently offline  kabu11
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You either trust us or you don't, it's that simple...


Now i wasnt saying that it was you or anyone else from this site that was going to do something wrong im saying what if someone uses your product's name or a mod of your product to make people install malicious programs onto your computer under the name of Renguard.

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you can have my credit card number....and my sort code and my account number...my bank account is locked unless i give verification through 24hour telephone security services with info only i know they wont release funds....still want it?


Not everyone has one of those cards and alot of families use the same computer so if little bobby installed a virus someone could find out private information about the whole family. Now there is no reason to turn this thread into a a big fight because it one of the few that i think really discusses Renguard instead of people comming in here and bashing it. But i think with the identifcation of the problem there is no doubt a solution can be found
My Problem with Renguard [message #84205] Thu, 29 April 2004 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kabu11

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You either trust us or you don't, it's that simple...


Now i wasnt saying that it was you or anyone else from this site that was going to do something wrong im saying what if someone uses your product's name or a mod of your product to make people install malicious programs onto your computer under the name of Renguard.


That's why the RenGuard team insist you ONLY download RenGuard from their official mirrors. Perhaps a mesage could be added to the installer that says "If you did not download this from http://www.renguard.com then you do not have a legit copy and it could be used for malicious purposes."


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My Problem with Renguard [message #84216] Thu, 29 April 2004 13:34 Go to previous message
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ditto chickendippers. Smile

I have stressed as much as I can that you shouldn't download RenGuard anywhere unless we link to it. At this point, all download mirrors are on servers directly owned by myself and Blazer.


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