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eggmac the pacifist [message #7988]

Wed, 19 March 2003 19:43

Duke of Nukes
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Duke of Nukes

and you think like a typical brainwashed military man. no matter what you think...INNOCENT people DIE due to war.

Innocent people die during war, no shit ? This has always been the case...HARDLY a profound statement.

oh, ok...so then it's ok to endorse it? We should punish the people for what their government thinks?

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eggmac the pacifist [message #7999]

Wed, 19 March 2003 20:23

[sg]the0ne
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Duke of Nukes

[sg

the0ne]

Duke of Nukes

and you think like a typical brainwashed military man. no matter what you think...INNOCENT people DIE due to war.

Innocent people die during war, no shit ? This has always been the case...HARDLY a profound statement.

oh, ok...so then it's ok to endorse it? We should punish the people for what their government thinks?

War is used when that nations leader feels it must be. Bush & co. feels it is needed...the bombs of freedom are falling right now. Stop proposing ludacris shit like ANYONE would endorse the killing of innocent people...only people like Saddam do things like that.

Dont believe me ? What do you think the result will be if he makes this an urban combat situation ?

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eggmac the pacifist [message #8001]

Wed, 19 March 2003 20:27

Duke of Nukes
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the0ne]the bombs of freedom are falling right now.

ROFLMAO

that is all

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I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
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My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
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eggmac the pacifist [message #8004]

Wed, 19 March 2003 20:34

KIRBY098
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Duke of Nukes

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the0ne]

Duke of Nukes

and you think like a typical brainwashed military man. no matter what you think...INNOCENT people DIE due to war.

Innocent people die during war, no shit ? This has always been the case...HARDLY a profound statement.

oh, ok...so then it's ok to endorse it? We should punish the people for what their government thinks?

Are you going to address any one single point tonight, or just some more aimless teenager rambling?

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eggmac the pacifist [message #8036]

Wed, 19 March 2003 21:48

Ren Sizzlefab
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As people have said before, the waging of war is seldom a black and white issue. Innocent people in Iraq will die in the war. Innocent people in Iraq will also die if there is no war. I believe that America and its allies went completely the wrong way in preparing for the war, ie basing it on weapons of mass destruction, terrorism etc. instead of the real issue, the horrors perpetrated by Saddam's regime.

While I am saddened that it has come to war, and would have liked to see another way of replacing the regime, then if it achieves the objectives of removing Saddam from power and ensuring whoever replaces him gives the Iraqi people freedom and hope, then it has done some good.

I've only said this after hearing of the experiences of an Iraqi woman who fled Iraq after her husband, who was employed by the Iraqi government, was tortured and killed for reasons unknown. She was there during the last Gulf War, and spoke of the joy and hope experienced by the majority of the Iraqi people, even during the bombings.

I care nothing for the half-baked accusations and excuses of George Bush and Saddam Hussein, but the opinion of an average, middle-aged woman has influenced me more than anything.

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eggmac the pacifist [message #8113]

Thu, 20 March 2003 04:49

Commando no. 448
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I feel this anlogy will best describe post war Iraq.

The "colitiion of the willing" is picking up iraq. Dropping it and watching it slowly fall like a baloon. Trying to gently blow it into the right place. Yet any wrong shoves will send it into a worse place then it curently is in.

Why is this so? It will take a long time for post-war Iraq to find its place in the world. And that place could be anywhere from a beatiful democratic nation to a constant civil war with parties holding power for brief durations until the next revolution starts. I am sure there are examples where this has happened but I do not have time to find them. Maybe Bangledash, after independance from Iraq the country had a civil war and is currently having such a low standard of living.

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eggmac the pacifist [message #8131]

Thu, 20 March 2003 06:40

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You can't tell me that if a huge chunk of uninhabited landscape was wiped out by a bomb, and a threat was made to use it on an actual target, that it wouldn't have a similar deterring effect?

Actually that would NOT have had the same deterring effect. Don't forget, the US even though it planned to drop the bomb only planned on dropping one. The Japanese people said they would defend their leader and would never surrender. So the US Dropped another. Even after that the Japanese people still did not want surrender. They would have every one of their cities cratered before they surrendered. That's how loyal they were. Finally thier leader stood up and said "Stop this, this is madness, I cannot see any more of my people die". He had the loyalty but did not abuse it. That is what Sadam should do.

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