RenMonitor [message #73402] |
Tue, 23 March 2004 09:44   |
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Dante
Messages: 1039 Registered: February 2003
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Alkaline | You can design the application so that it gets permissions from the host. You could host a simple config.xml file on the game server's webserver where the clients application would get rights and the app would enable on the commands a person has access to.
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yes, but as i just stated, most admins are very reluctant to give out there remote admin passwords for this feature.
RenEvo
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RenMonitor [message #73404] |
Tue, 23 March 2004 09:54   |
Alkaline
Messages: 1132 Registered: November 2003
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B.t.w, SNIPE,
Do you remember you post on renevo.com:
http://renevo.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1151
to cut the story short:
Here is the fix for wolspy THAT I KNOW 12 servers are running:
http://renmaps.neronhosting.com/wolspyfix.zip
Ohh and I love this quote by ssptweak, notice how he bashes making programs in MDE:
Quote: | i dont understand how mIRC lags, SS is right scripting is a log easier than VB, and u can see the code. AS far as any of the JG or DS server's....i have never seen the sfps lower than 55, with my fps usually steady between 60 and 80. You are digging yourself into a hole here. You can't win this arguement. So you should leave, if you don't like the people here and just want to argue, than u shouldn't be here, we are fine without you. I know how to script in mIRC, and have no clue how to in VB...personally u can do anything u want in scripting language, easier than in VB....i bet neither whitedragon or SS have a ton of dll's to drag there server's down with mem usuage.....all we need is $2 == !command to write server commands in mIRC......
you should just leave
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Lolz... and you actually have the nerve to come back and support this after talking all that crap earlier.
Further here are some quotes by snipesmo where he bashes programming and now look, the fool turned around and a program in vb.net:
Quote: | I agree, the main reason is mIRC is a simple language, and free. I don't know any programming languages but I do know mIRC scripting very well. Not to mention that while connected to 2 servers mIRC takes < 1ok of memory usage. If that makes your server lag then your comp just plain sucks
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In refrence to making an APP v.s a mIRC script Snipesmo says:
Quote: | So? Its still in no way a rip, also, mIRC is better.
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haha, what a loser... After saying all that shit, in the end he makes a vb.net app. Albiet a useless app, but still an app.
http://www.UNRules.com
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RenMonitor [message #73405] |
Tue, 23 March 2004 09:58   |
Alkaline
Messages: 1132 Registered: November 2003
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Dante |
Alkaline | You can design the application so that it gets permissions from the host. You could host a simple config.xml file on the game server's webserver where the clients application would get rights and the app would enable on the commands a person has access to.
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yes, but as i just stated, most admins are very reluctant to give out there remote admin passwords for this feature.
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What do you mean?
- 1 you start the client side application, you supply a username and password when you start the client side application.
- 2 The client side app first looks in the config.xml which is hosted on the webserver, gets rights and connects you to the FDS. Only the commands that you are qualified for are enabled on the client side.
for simple security, you can enable SSL on the dir hosting the config.xml file
http://www.UNRules.com
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RenMonitor [message #73407] |
Tue, 23 March 2004 10:15   |
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Dante
Messages: 1039 Registered: February 2003
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i still think you are missing my point, but oh well, i really don't care, this game has one of the poorest remote admins available, but we seem to have gotten by.
there are plenty of options available, use one you like and can understand.
RenEvo
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RenMonitor [message #73422] |
Tue, 23 March 2004 12:22   |
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Crimson
Messages: 7431 Registered: February 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Alkaline, I'm sorry, but you are WAY off base here. You obviously know very little of IRC, so that explains your failure to understand.
Server Matrix forbids you RUNNING an IRC server on their servers, but you ARE in fact allowed to connect to an IRC network FROM a Server Matrix box. As a result of this, all 7 of my servers connect to my IRC network that I host off other servers I lease or have accounts on that allow that sort of thing.
My moderators and admins frequently watch the in-game chat from the IRC channels and talk to the players there to take care of issues even when they're not in the game. RenRem alone can't do this. RenRem sends commands TO the FDS and receives only the result of those commands back. It doesn't see in-game chat. Without IRC, there can't be any real-time communication between someone other than the server owner, and gamers in the server.
Now, understanding that, there are many commands that BR.NET and BRenBot (and others) use to get information about the server or basically to interact with the server. Snipesimo's script is merely a GUI to facilitate those commands and make a moderator not have to remember a whole bunch of commands (which differ between scripts).
I would never give my RenRem password to my moderators, and I have no need to. This tool of his is merely to facilitate what dozens of people are doing already.
Given the fact that you do not understand IRC, you can't even think you're informed enough to comment on a program written to make the IRC experience better.
I'm the bawss.
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RenMonitor [message #73432] |
Tue, 23 March 2004 13:25   |
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snipesimo
Messages: 764 Registered: February 2003
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First of all STFU you random dumbass. Let me explain why this program is compeltely retraded:
Here are the steps this gay program has to take to work:
- FDS SERVER Starts
- Br.net starts
- Br.net sends info to IRC
- Client starts MIRC and connects to channel (notice, this stupid program does not work without mirc)
- Client starts SNIPESMOs POS application
Basically this program forces you to take 10 differnt routes to do something that would normally require only 1 step:
Use NATRIVE RENREM SUPPORT AND LOG INTO THE DAMN FDS DIRECTLY instead fucking around with this IRC SHIT.
Puft, as if Dante hadn't made it already easy enough, he could have just ripped off Dante's Renremn 32 and base his app off that instead of going to this irc bullshit route.
The fact of the matter is, anyone can use the source code for renrem32, make a program with some buttons and map fds commands in it, then have it communicate with the FDS directly instead of fucking around with IRC :rolleyes:
but knowing Snipesmo, he has to fuck with irc.... :rolleyes:
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Ok Alkaline, lets see you remotely moderate a server with no FDS and no bot :rolleyes:
Lets see you moderate an IRC channel without joining the channel the bot is in :rolleyes:
IRC is in no way shit, every moderation utility made for Renegade that doesn't require the renrem pass uses mIRC. There are thousands of uses for mIRC.
BTW, do you mind posting this "renrem32 source code" you speak of, because to my understanding that was NEVER released.
This app was made to suit my desire, and this is the way I want to do it. I never said anyone has to use it, hell I never even said you had to post in my topic. But if you don't like it, you can go to hell and not use my script. There is no reason to bash someone else's script just because I bashed your piece of shit arguements in the past.
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RenMonitor [message #78207] |
Fri, 09 April 2004 21:01  |
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snipesimo
Messages: 764 Registered: February 2003
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Works fine for me. Show me a SS of exactly whats happening.
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