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Tue, 09 March 2004 13:58 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Thanks, Crimson. I think my mouse pointer was off and when I thought I was clicking on the edit button I was actually clicking on the quote button, which confounded me greatly.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71248] |
Fri, 12 March 2004 15:12 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Coudl you please post a video link to that first negative ad Kerry aired on television? I want to see it.
But this is going to be a very negative campaign.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71258] |
Fri, 12 March 2004 16:11 |
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Crimson
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Interestingly enough, all his ads from before the beginning of December are not on his own website. Also, all his blog links to content are dead as well. However, I was able to find a blog entry dated September 5th that blasts Bush by name:
John Kerry blog | The one person in America who deserves to be laid off...
Press Release
September 5, 2003
John Kerry Blasts Bush on August Job Losses
John Kerry said, “93,000 more jobs lost in August is another reminder that George W Bush’s jobless recovery is no recovery at all. George Bush insults every American who has been thrown out of work when he comes back from his vacation and claims that he’s turning the economy around. We lost more of the manufacturing jobs that made America strong and more of the information age jobs that are our future. President Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy are forcing states to raise taxes and cut investments in jobs, driving up property taxes on the middle class, and driving up deficits and debt crowding out investments in jobs, health care, and education. Working Americans are hurting and that’s why we need a new economic plan for America and why we need a new President. ”
The Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today that employment declined by 93,000 in August, and the unemployment rate was essentially unchanged at 6.1 percent. Job losses continued in manufacturing and information. The report also provided a look at workers struggling by falling in and out of the workforce. According to today’s report, “In August, nearly 1.7 million persons (not seasonally adjusted) were marginally attached to the labor force, 209,000 higher than a year earlier. These individuals wanted and were available to work and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed, however, because they did not actively search for work in the 4 weeks pre-ceding the survey. Of the 1.7 million, 503,000 were discouraged workers--persons who were not currently looking for work specifically because they believed no jobs were available for them.”
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By Jon Favreau on September 5, 2003 at 12:15 PM
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I challenge YOU to find an attack earlier than this.
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71287] |
Fri, 12 March 2004 18:53 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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I'll take your word that this is the earliest attack, but notice that it's not something stupid like Kerry's girlfriend that never happened. Also, did you read it? It's a lot of fun.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71456] |
Sat, 13 March 2004 17:20 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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I agree. Negative ads are just negative, especially stupid ones that don't have anything at all to do with politics, like Jesse Helm's last attack ad against that black guy. It looked like the black guy was going to win in a landslide, but Helms comes out with a RASCIST ad basically saying: "Did you know ______ goes to a BLACK CHURCH? Did you know _____ is BLACK?..." And Helms won. Negative ads control people who can't think.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71518] |
Sun, 14 March 2004 00:27 |
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Crimson
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I completely agree with Rush Limbaugh that there is NO PASSION whatsoever out there for Kerry. From all I've read from the Leftists out there, they can only talk about what a horrible president Bush is. They have no real reasons for wanting Kerry in office other than the fact that he's "not Bush".
It's really scary that the media controls public / popular opinion so much. My eyes were opened fairly recently to the horrendous brainwashing on, for example, CNN.com. I used them as my news source for quite a while, though I'd never say I took their text as word. Someone like me with "open eyes" can see how they will pretend to be un-biased and run some pro-Bush story, but they'll always, always end it with some pro-Kerry or anti-Bush rebuttal at the end. To the skimming reader, the thoughts that enter the mind last are generally the ones that stick.
Bearing that in mind, I don't feel that the Bush campaign can make much headway with the American people by bashing Kerry. No one gives a damn about him. He's not Bush, therefore he walks on water to these brainwashed test monkeys. Their focus should NOT include stooping to their level. People need to know that Bush is a straight shooter who will do whatever it takes to protect this nation. People need to understand that the Democrats want to take our money.
Furthermore, I completely agree that this B.S. about this horrible job crisis is completely false. There are new job listings in my profession (web developer) more than ever before and heck, I even HAVE a job in my chosen profession making great money. I don't know where these jobless folks are, because everyone I knew that was laid off when the "dot-com bubble" burst has found a new job by now, and many are better off than they were before.
The point I really wanted to make is that I hope the Republicans will put a huge effort forth to correct the lies and misconceptions being fed to us via the mainstream media. Fighting Kerry is not as important as boasting Bush. They need to realize that Bush is not bad for this country!
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The above email is a revision of one that I wrote about my opinions about the Republican strategy.
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71553] |
Sun, 14 March 2004 10:09 |
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NukeIt15
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Quote: | They have no real reasons for wanting Kerry in office other than the fact that he's "not Bush".
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Voting someone into office for that kind of stupid reason could lead to disaster. Unfortunately, most of the population does not read up on their candidate before voting for them; all they care about is that a particular candidate is part of their favorite political party. There are people who are very conservative who vote liberal just because they've always voted that way, and there are liberals who always vote conservative for the same reason.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71958] |
Tue, 16 March 2004 10:33 |
pimp boy joe
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Catholics = racist stuck in the past child child molestors
Republicans = mother fucking retards that are ignorant.
Duke fans = duesh bags
Since all duke fans are republican, and allrepublicans are catholic:
You republicans are racist stuck in the past child molesting ignorant mother fucking retard duesh bags
Fuck yeah you guys suck
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71959] |
Tue, 16 March 2004 10:42 |
KIRBY098
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #71960] |
Tue, 16 March 2004 10:42 |
pimp boy joe
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Catholics = racist stuck in the past child child molestors
Republicans = mother fucking retards that are ignorant.
Duke fans = duesh bags
Since all duke fans are republican, and allrepublicans are catholic:
You republicans are racist stuck in the past child molesting ignorant mother fucking retard duesh bags
Fuck yeah you guys suck
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #72001] |
Tue, 16 March 2004 14:15 |
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NukeIt15
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It's spelled "douche bag," douche bag. Lay off the...whatever it is you're smoking. :rolleyes:
How is he not banned yet?
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #72720] |
Fri, 19 March 2004 12:16 |
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Crimson
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Did SuperFlyingLiberal give up?? I have enough material for weeks!
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #72824] |
Fri, 19 March 2004 21:43 |
Llama Man 451
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Crimson (I believe it was you or Nuke that said this) well whoever said it . . . I totally agree that voting Kerry into office because he is not Bush is a pretty dumb reason . . . but in all fairness it is the truth. At this point I would rather be told the horrible truth than force fed lies from a moron that cant put sentences together.
Also, Crimson you complained that Democrats are taking our money. What do you think we are paying for right now??? The war in Iraq for nothing which took your tax cuts away and then some. Basically you would have more money in your pocket right now if Gore had been elected.
Another reason that we are losing money from Bush. Bush came out and openly said that he would put a lock box on the social security money. When the budget came out THE NEXT DAY it said that he had taken $1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) dollars out of the "lock box." That definately doesn't fall into the "saving money" category.
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #72855] |
Sat, 20 March 2004 07:35 |
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I havn't been paying attention to the election as I should be, but right now, I still plan on voting Bush. It wouldn't be so bad if Kerry won, even Rush Limbaugh had thoughts on that.
Yeah, we would have more money in our pockets if Gore was elected, but we'd probably be in a more fucked up state if he was. 9/11 more than likely would have happened, and I really don't wanna think about what that dumbass would have done about it. He wouldn't have taken action. Money, or fighting for what's right? What would you want? If there wasn't action done, we would be subject to more terrorist attacks. Bush took action and fighting for what's right, not what Democrats and Gore think is right. And another thing, Gore woulda been the greatest president of them all, because he probably would have given everybody free internet, seeing that he invented it and all. :rolleyes:
whoa.
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #72974] |
Sat, 20 March 2004 19:28 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Crimson | Did SuperFlyingLiberal give up??
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No, I've just been grinding away at a BIG school project. And let's steer away from name calling, Crimservative.
Crimson | I have enough material for weeks!
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I'm sure there's a good reason for not posting it. Let's see some.
da_shiz | he [Gore] probably would have given everybody free internet, seeing that he invented it and all.
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Oh jeez, do I need to repeat myself again? Al Gore did say "I invented the internet". Why? Because he saw the value of ARPANET, and stood behind it with funding. Then he took credit for it. It's what politicians do. Now, some people might disagree with him saying "invented" EHRMCRIMSONEHRM, but it's really not that far off the wall. Not enough for weeks of news agencies attacking him for it and Republicans calling him a "pathological liar".
da_shiz | Bush took action and fighting for what's right
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Fighting for what's right like trying to justify attacking Iraq over false evidence like nuclear weapons material coming in to the country from Africa while THE CIA WAS SAYING THE EVIDENCE WAS AN OBVIOUS FORGERY?!?!?
da_shiz | 9/11 more than likely would have happened, and I really don't wanna think about what that dumbass would have done about it.
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He probably wouldn't have politicized the hell out of it and referenced it in basically everything he said. But then FOX "News" would scream and yell that he didn't care about 9/11 and those lost, but if Gore talked about it all the time, FOX "News" would scream and yell that he was politicizing the lives of those lost in 9/11
Here's something on how much money you're actually saving with Bush, and cruise around the website to look at other things Republicans say about Kerry that aren't true.
http://blog.johnkerry.com/dbunker/archives/001419.html
EDIT: I changed some mis-spellings.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #73073] |
Sun, 21 March 2004 09:50 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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shiz, they must be biased, especially when they get their information from places like THE CENSUS BUREAU!!!
John Kerry's Site | Income Decrease: $1,462. Under President Clinton, family income increased $7,202 from 1992 to 2000. Under President Bush family income has declined $1,462 from 2000 to 2002. [Source: U.S. Census Bureau]
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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OT: Political IQ Test [message #73075] |
Sun, 21 March 2004 09:59 |
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Hydra
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SuperFlyingEngi | Oh jeez, do I need to repeat myself again? Al Gore did say "I invented the internet". Why? Because he saw the value of ARPANET, and stood behind it with funding. Then he took credit for it. It's what politicians do. Now, some people might disagree with him saying "invented" EHRMCRIMSONEHRM, but it's really not that far off the wall. Not enough for weeks of news agencies attacking him for it and Republicans calling him a "pathological liar".
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First of all, no one person invented the internet, so he would be lying if he says, "I invented the internet," because he wouldn't have been the only person working on it.
As said on a previous page of this thread, there is a difference between funding and actually inventing the thing. He may have funded it, but he didn't invent it.
SuperFlyingEngi | Fighting for what's right like trying to justify attacking Iraq over false evidence like nuclear weapons material coming in to the country from Africa while THE CIA WAS SAYING THE EVIDENCE WAS AN OBVIOUS FORGERY?!?!?
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Your boy Clinton went to war with Iraq for nuclear weapons, too. :rolleyes:
da_shiz | He probably wouldn't have politicized the hell out of it and referenced it in basically everything he said. But then FOX "News" would scream and yell that he didn't care about 9/11 and those lost, but if Gore talked about it all the time, FOX "News" would scream and yell that he was politicizing the lives of those lost in 9/11
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I like how you talk about what Al Gore "wouldn't" have done when the statement was what he "would" have done. :rolleyes:
I like how you put "news" in quotes when referring to Fox News, but you refer to John Kerry's website as a credible source. :rolleyes:
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