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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66286] Thu, 12 February 2004 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gam3rj is currently offline  gam3rj
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Thanks for the info Crimson! Also, kudos for the NVRefresh tool.

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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66289] Thu, 12 February 2004 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Majiin Vegeta is currently offline  Majiin Vegeta
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its actually the bots and scripts they are running.. with all the players and all the logs the bots have a lot of logs to search thru for ladders recommendations.. if they are banned and for what reason...

becoming a strain on servers... even tho all these new things make the servers kewl.. the lag totally ruins it.. it is almost unplayable on most servers


As msgtpain pointed out, the bots actually use very little CPU. Its pretty simple to parse a text file (the renegade log), and looking up join messages and whatnot is just pulling one record out of a database which is also very efficient.

Reminds me of a funny incident. When I first wrote brenbot, I used to have it running on a linux box, and it remotely admined the crimson79 sniper server (it wasn't running on the same PC as the FDS). Some asshole player spent at least 30 minutes telling everyone that the host sucked, and that it was because brenbot was using all the CPU. Everyone told him their FPS was fine and SFPS was fine for them too, but the guy just kept insisting that the bot was "using all the CPU and RAM". Even when I informed him that it wasnt running on the same machine, but sending commands remotely he still argued, then saying that it must be "using up the bandwidth", LOL even though it was only sending a few UDP packets over the LOCAL network to the server Smile

Long story short:

1. You can't please all the people all of the time. Some people love the features of the various Bots, others use them as something to complain about.

2. Nobody knows more than the server owner just how much any other applications are impacting performance of the server. I'm sure any server admin monitors the CPU usage if/when they install anything, and would not run a Bot if the machine couldn't handle the miniscule resources they require.


so whats makes the 1 SFPS everytime somebody joins... then the
must just be the fds :S

when i serach an Ip log(huge ip log) using mirc scripts.. my computer pauses for a few seconds before it brings up the details.. kinda the same for setjoins recommendations.. ladders?? Confused

oh well take back what i said about the bots cuasing all the trouble
hope someone does find the cause of the sfps drops on servers.. :S
Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66312] Fri, 13 February 2004 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just watch your CPU usage for a few minutes and you might see the cause. Sometimes lowering the CPU priority on a CPU hog will improve performance on the FDS.

Alkaline, please stop being so argumentative. I have been running an FDS for about 2 years and playing Renegade for 2 and a half. I think I know what I'm talking about.


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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66491] Sat, 14 February 2004 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hosts Don't cause lag I DO


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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66520] Sat, 14 February 2004 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alkaline, please stop being so argumentative. I have been running an FDS for about 2 years and playing Renegade for 2 and a half. I think I know what I'm talking about.


I have been running a server since renegade demo came out on gamespy, since march 2000. I know what I am talking about as well. Play on other servers and you will see a difference on how the sfps affects gameplay...


Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66580] Sat, 14 February 2004 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Crimson, or anyone, how do I make my resolution go below 800x600, because when I saw this

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/fosaken-Clipboard01.jpg

I really want that 120 fps


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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66581] Sat, 14 February 2004 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alkaline, please stop being so argumentative. I have been running an FDS for about 2 years and playing Renegade for 2 and a half. I think I know what I'm talking about.


I have been running a server since renegade demo came out on gamespy, since march 2000. I know what I am talking about as well. Play on other servers and you will see a difference on how the sfps affects gameplay...


The Renegade demo came out in 2002. Not 2000.
Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66583] Sat, 14 February 2004 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66602] Sat, 14 February 2004 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Crimson, or anyone, how do I make my resolution go below 800x600, because when I saw this

I really want that 120 fps


that wouold be your MAX FPS.. when your in a normal game you get normal FPS..

btw click the "advance" button then look for the Tab that says "monitor"

i think it was that.. either way its in there somewhere
Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66638] Sun, 15 February 2004 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alkaline, please stop being so argumentative. I have been running an FDS for about 2 years and playing Renegade for 2 and a half. I think I know what I'm talking about.


I have been running a server since renegade demo came out on gamespy, since march 2000. I know what I am talking about as well. Play on other servers and you will see a difference on how the sfps affects gameplay...


Haha Renegade wasn't out in 2000. LOL I have my Renegade beta CD for Phase 1 which started December 2001, and the game was released on February 26, 2002, but yeah you've been hosting for 4 years. :rolleyes:

Either way, it is NOT the 35 SFPS that causes the lag. It's when the FPS drops once in a while to 15 or so that you experience lag. FPS changes occur when there are more vehicles on the field, when other software on the system uses a little more CPU than normal, stuff like that.

Either way, I am upgrading the box hosting n00bsvr01 to a 2.4 or 2.8 Pentium by the end of the month.


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Stop blaming the host for lag :) [message #66643] Sun, 15 February 2004 01:08 Go to previous message
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Either way, I am upgrading the box hosting n00bsvr01 to a 2.4 or 2.8 Pentium by the end of the month.


w00t! Can't argue with that! That is like the only server I've played since it started... Smile


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