| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61205] |
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Do u think it is wise for the US to travel once again to the moon? I've heard that president bush might be sending men to the moon and then to mars. Do u think that this is a good idea for the united states? The money that might be spent on going to the moon and/or mars could be used to help iraq, iran, global warming, and ect. I belive it isnt a good idea but It would be nice to see man walk on the moon during my life time.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61206] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 15:36  |
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well, i think we should. there is this conspiracy theory that says we never landed on the moon :rolleyes:
lets prove them wrong.
and it would be cool to see mars.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61207] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 15:44 |
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I think if we can actually do something productive up there then yeah it's worth it. But sending a few guys up there to walk around and gather soil samples doesn't quite justify the amount of money it would cost. I think it's just a stunt by Bush to try to get himsef re-elected personally.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61227] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 17:37 |
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The moon's dumb...
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There's nothing there.
The U.S. should take money from billionaires and fund a huge trip/base/thing to Mars. Now THAT would be worth someone's while.
Also, I think that rumor about the conspiracy that we never went to the moon is total
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"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61229] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 17:43 |
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Also, I thinkt that rumor about the conspiracy that we never went to the world is total
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We never went to the world? WTF? I think you mean moon right? I don't think we should go to the moon since we have already done that, but I do think we should go to Mars and set up a small out post type of a thing where maybe a couple people can live or something, they could start the terraforming process, set up equipment, test the soil for nutrients, test the air on mars for whateve gases are harmful to humans ETC moniter the weather patterns throughout the year ETC ETC ETC and periodically NASA could send them frozen burritos and/or Pizza from Pizza Hut (they went to the space station, why not Mars?) LOL But NASA could send them foods and stuff periodically along with equipment, supplies, ETC to expand the out post or just more equipment for it.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61231] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 17:48 |
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We never went to the world? WTF? I think you mean moon right?
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Sorry about that, I forgot to proofread my post
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61236] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 18:11 |
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We could get mars atmosphere to aproximately the right conditions, but there's a lot we need to learn about keeping earth fit for human life before we consider ourselfs capable of teraforming another world
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61248] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 18:42 |
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first, mars does not have the magnetic field and gravity necessary to hold in an atmosphere. we could build shelters to hold humans but they would never be outside playing ball in the sunlight without protection.
as for the moon, there are many things a moon base could do for us including growing crops, harvesting solar energy, a place for prisoners, observatories etc.
also, keep in mind that everytime we develope technology for space travel it helps us out on earth. so by trying to walk on the moon again or sending people to mars we may just accidentally cure cancer or come up with a viable clean energy source.
as for the guy who said take money from billionaires to go to mars... i hope you're saying accept donations and that you're not another flaming liberal child who thinks they don't deserve to have the money that they and their families worked hard for.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61268] |
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first, mars does not have the magnetic field and gravity necessary to hold in an atmosphere. we could build shelters to hold humans but they would never be outside playing ball in the sunlight without protection.
as for the moon, there are many things a moon base could do for us including growing crops, harvesting solar energy, a place for prisoners, observatories etc.
also, keep in mind that everytime we develope technology for space travel it helps us out on earth. so by trying to walk on the moon again or sending people to mars we may just accidentally cure cancer or come up with a viable clean energy source
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Are you saying it is useless to go to Mars? You are actually wrong Mars has an atmosphere just not breathable to us humans currently. You could also grow crops, harvest solar energy, hold prosoners, and make observatories on Mars as well. The moon has no atmosphere, and can never have one, due to it's small mass it doesn't have a strong enough gravitational field to hold an atmoshpere.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61284] |
Fri, 09 January 2004 20:29 |
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Us giong to the mars is going to take a while, probably a decade or two. Mars is a hell of alot farther to earth than the moon is and even getting there takes months, literally. Food rations, oxygen, supplies, is all limited on spaceships.
As far as technology goes, we have sent things out side of our solar system, i am sure we can make it to Mars.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61310] |
Sat, 10 January 2004 02:34 |
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Yeah, quite some Mars missions have failed, but a manned mission would have a better chance of succeeding because they can avoid pointy objects and craters and such better. An unmanned mission is basically "we'll let it land there and hope there's nothing in our way that wasn't on the photos".
Furthermore I think space missions are good for scientific purposes and such, but I agree with smwScott that this is just Bush trying to get some votes. Besides, I suppose the US could better not spend even more money while they are running a huge deficit.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61342] |
Sat, 10 January 2004 10:41 |
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Even with extensive terraforming, would Mars atmosphere have a pressure high enough for humans to breathe unaided? And can the extreme temperature variations be eliminated?
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61410] |
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61460] |
Sun, 11 January 2004 02:56 |
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first, mars does not have the magnetic field and gravity necessary to hold in an atmosphere. we could build shelters to hold humans but they would never be outside playing ball in the sunlight without protection.
as for the moon, there are many things a moon base could do for us including growing crops, harvesting solar energy, a place for prisoners, observatories etc.
also, keep in mind that everytime we develope technology for space travel it helps us out on earth. so by trying to walk on the moon again or sending people to mars we may just accidentally cure cancer or come up with a viable clean energy source
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Are you saying it is useless to go to Mars? You are actually wrong Mars has an atmosphere just not breathable to us humans currently. You could also grow crops, harvest solar energy, hold prosoners, and make observatories on Mars as well. The moon has no atmosphere, and can never have one, due to it's small mass it doesn't have a strong enough gravitational field to hold an atmoshpere.
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no, i'm not saying it's useless to go to mars...just the opposite. and yes, it has an atmosphere, but it is too thin to sustain life as we know it right now. the atmosphere has leaked out over the years because it does not have the gravitational pull to keep one in. add to that the lack of tetonic plate movement which would help keep an atmosphere in and the planet at a decent temperature. it all means that mars would never be able to sustain human life unless huge shelters were built and water and oxygen we created on a mass scale to keep those in the shelters alive.
our resources should be spent on exploring mars and other planets in our solar system but not in teraforming them. instead we should keep trying to improve our technology so we can travel to other solar systems and find planets which can already support our life.
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| We're going to the Moon and Mars! [message #61474] |
Sun, 11 January 2004 06:11 |
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As far as technology goes, we have sent things out side of our solar system, i am sure we can make it to Mars.
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This is not true, Voyager 1 is the man made object that has travled furthest, and it hasn't made it into deep space just yet. after 26 years of flight, it's thought to be in the Termenation shock region of the solar system, the boundry between our solar system and deep space.
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