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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60068] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 01:59   |
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warranto
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Heh, you guys are a bunch of immature little fools, remember this -- Its a game. No one really cares. In the end, you've simply wasted a lot of your life trying to build this awesome game, lemme repeat an important little word in there "GAME" Its a game guys, you're wasting your time making digital worlds, what for? Seems a bit like the dog chasing it's tail, fun, but doesn't do anything for anyone, unless you really do depend on compliments in the form of text that some person halfway across the world posted.
I know, you don't understand right now, I didn't either, but lemme tell you, the reason why I never really came back minus reading a couple of posts here and there when I'm bored at night is becuase I realized that its all a huge waste of time accomplishing absolutely nothing.
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Ah yes... lets go a step further and stop the gaming industry altogether! It's all a waste of time anyways... someone using their time and effort to provide entertainment for others is a complete waste of time! But wait... lets not stop there, lets get rid of the entertainment industry itself! The world could be a lot more productive if no one bothered to stop for trivial entertainment!
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60082] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 08:28 |
Apache
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Ok, lets rephrase this: Its immature and stupid to be fighting over a game. The gaming industry is a huge thing, lots of money, but Renegade isn't a money maker anymore, I mean if you were actually getting paid for what you do, then it would seem a bit more worthy to try and bust down any competition...
Jon -- I never said I was better than anyone, I may not waste time on gaming, but I still waste all my time and money on something else, just that it is a much more physical hobby that costs a whole lot more, lol. I'm in no way better, if not worse, just see the whole thing is being immature and pretty retarded. I mean, what really makes some graphics and scripting better than another set of scripting and graphics coming from a different set of imaginations? I've played both RenAlert, and Reborn, both mods have their ups and downs, and I really don't have a favourite. RenAlert has some cool stuff, but so does Reborn, it goes both ways.
In all honesty, I don't think I'll really play RenAlert or Reborn later on at all, I haven't touched Renegade in months. I must admit that RenAlert's helicopters are cool, but it stops there, not much else to impress me about the mods.
- Russell
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60148] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 16:18 |
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Crimson
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Bullshit this doesn't make us money. Yeah, I spend a couple hundred a month on n00bstories.com servers with nothing back, but the knowledge gained from working on the site with technical skills and people skills got me a damn good job at Cisco. So it IS in fact making money.
Now ACK does all this mapping not only for fun, but also because he aspires to be employed in the gaming industry one day. Then yes, this will in fact make him money. The fact that he strives to be better than everyone else and succeeds is what will let him beat out another applicant for some job down the road.
Don't sit here and tell us how to live our lives. If we don't think our lives are fulfilling enough, that's our call, not yours. Myself, I spend hours upon hours a week in IRC and the forums and playing Renegade, but that doesn't mean I am not being fulfilled in life. I'm very happy with my life.
If your only argument is "You need to get a life" then you, in fact, have no argument. You're just using ad hominem to say "it doesn't matter what your opinion is because you're just a loser with no life". That's irrelevant to the topic at hand and therefore a waste of time for you to type and us to read.
I'm the bawss.
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60168] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 18:58 |
Apache
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Mmm... Falacies of logic, fun stuff 
Honestly, the only thing I don't like about it is the pointless posts like this one, competition is VERY good for buisness, it draws prices down, and quality up, not saying that competition is bad, just saying that the "poisioning of the well" on Aircraftkiller's point is a little immature and not needed, it doesn't help anyone, or accomplish anything.
I'm not here to say that all gamers are loners with no lives, just saying that there are more important things to be arguing about.
- Russell
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60179] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 21:07 |
Apache
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Becuase I wanted to get my point across, but simply sucked at doing it and it took me three or four posts to do so.
Or you could simply say I'm a hypocripe, works fine with me either way.
- Russell
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60185] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 21:34 |
Terran_Drone
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yeah! Apache will eventually get better at debating and maybe he'll get a money making job with it! some day.. :rolleyes:
Ack, in the real world companies don't call other company's products crap or trash (don't read this literally, please), they don't call eachother names. If they did, the industries would be a lot more hostile. You didn't see Westwood call Blizzard's games sucky, did you?
What does making enemies help you? Gaining experience would be the only benefit you get out of this, while you could make contacts and friends who'd help you in the future when you'll need their help.. You're not the only one trying to get into the game industry, so be careful.
"competition is VERY good for buisness, it draws prices down, and quality up" In some ways I don't think this counts for the game industry: competition decreases development costs and time and with it the quality.. At least for EA that seems to do it.
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60189] |
Thu, 01 January 2004 22:58 |
ANewOrder
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Exactly my point. How could ack have a future in the game buisness with that attitude. He has talent but there is alyways somone better,and making too many eneymeys isnt a wise move.
"This world has a New Order, it has a new God! Tell me, do the lives of people who don't serve this order have any value?"
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60208] |
Fri, 02 January 2004 00:51 |
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warranto
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yeah! Apache will eventually get better at debating and maybe he'll get a money making job with it! some day.. :rolleyes:
Ack, in the real world companies don't call other company's products crap or trash (don't read this literally, please), they don't call eachother names. If they did, the industries would be a lot more hostile. You didn't see Westwood call Blizzard's games sucky, did you?
What does making enemies help you? Gaining experience would be the only benefit you get out of this, while you could make contacts and friends who'd help you in the future when you'll need their help.. You're not the only one trying to get into the game industry, so be careful.
"competition is VERY good for buisness, it draws prices down, and quality up" In some ways I don't think this counts for the game industry: competition decreases development costs and time and with it the quality.. At least for EA that seems to do it.
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Uhh.. you realize that competitors can't publically discriminate against other companies... It's called Defamation. This is why in commercials when a product is comapred to others, the product that it was compared to is never named.
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60216] |
Fri, 02 January 2004 05:57 |
Terran_Drone
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Bigejoe14: you lack. I mean, saying we just 'fail to understand' without argumenting why just makes your whole statement useless.
Warranto, I DO realize. What I also realize is that in the real world companies aren't so childish. They do compare eachothers products and call their own better, but they never start flaming and calling eachother's products names. Not in public, not behind the scenes. Now you can keep on nitpicking about the details of my argumentation or you can resign on it and realise you won't come far being childish.
ACK, the trick is to find a way of cometition without fights and flamewars. It may take some more thinking, but I bet there are possibilities. Don't tear the community apart please!
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60257] |
Fri, 02 January 2004 11:45 |
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warranto
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Warranto, I DO realize. What I also realize is that in the real world companies aren't so childish. They do compare eachothers products and call their own better, but they never start flaming and calling eachother's products names. Not in public, not behind the scenes. Now you can keep on nitpicking about the details of my argumentation or you can resign on it and realise you won't come far being childish.
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Ah! A psychic! I would really like to know how you are able to find out what goes on behind the scenes. I never said being childish will get you anywhere, nor have I disagreed with you on that topic. However, you continue to be wrong. Take my commercial example again. How is a company going, "our product is better, all others are inferior. So buy our stuff!", NOT calling other products names? Sure they don't mention the "others" by name, most of the time, but competition is all about saying how much your product is better than the other persons by showing how inferior it is.
At least you stopped your attempt to know how the marketing world works.
Oh, and by the way, people make a living by others complaining about products. Thats how businesses go bankrupt, quality of products increase, and members of any 'better business' company are able to get paid.
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60328] |
Fri, 02 January 2004 20:31 |
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Kytten9
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Ah! A psychic! I would really like to know how you are able to find out what goes on behind the scenes. I never said being childish will get you anywhere, nor have I disagreed with you on that topic. However, you continue to be wrong. Take my commercial example again. How is a company going, "our product is better, all others are inferior. So buy our stuff!", NOT calling other products names? Sure they don't mention the "others" by name, most of the time, but competition is all about saying how much your product is better than the other persons by showing how inferior it is.
At least you stopped your attempt to know how the marketing world works.
Oh, and by the way, people make a living by others complaining about products. Thats how businesses go bankrupt, quality of products increase, and members of any 'better business' company are able to get paid.
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Yes that all happens to be correct....
to what ACK said about Reborn sucks.....Yes ACK thinks it sucks and most the people he knows probably think it sucks and they find him -as a person who knows his maps and mods- someone to listen to and take advice off...
But its his opinion he dislikes it, and as a public -keyword- forum he has the right to say this....if you disagree then you say well i disagree i think its ok....but no you and him got engaged in a pissing contest and it leads to childish arguing....He dislikes it, you like it we get the picture.
On a more personal note i dont have a problem with reborn, it is after all a beta and it didnt cost money (yet) so no skin off my nose, but nothing will replace renegade
You have a God given right to be stupid. Please do not abuse this right!
n00bstories renegade server mod.
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| Looks like the public really thinks Reborn sucks [message #60359] |
Sat, 03 January 2004 07:10 |
Terran_Drone
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Take my commercial example again. How is a company going, "our product is better, all others are inferior. So buy our stuff!", NOT calling other products names? Sure they don't mention the "others" by name, most of the time, but competition is all about saying how much your product is better than the other persons by showing how inferior it is.
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Isn't that EXACTLY what I said? It's the mature WAY they use to tell how other products are inferior, understand? So what's the difference between that and what ACK is doing?
"Our product causes 10 times better results, because.. etc etc" vs. "Reborn sucks (!), a couple of other people think so too!"
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