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To those who DEMAND proof on a program [message #53860]

Tue, 04 November 2003 14:44

warranto
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WARRANTO:
"Programming ability? None. I'm a philosopher, not a computer programmer. In fact I've never even attempted to program. But as majikent pointed out I fail to see how that would apply to my knowledge of what is regarded as truth. No matter if you agree with what the truth is or not. Don't like it, don't complain to me about stating it. Go and change it. When it's been changed, I'll start stating that as the truth. "

A philosopher? Isn't everyone a philosopher? Or is that just my philosophy? lol The point that I'm making is that you don't have any clue what open source is truely about or any technical information in your brain that would allow you to make an informed decision regarding the technical background and planning for this project.

"And since when was the "machine" represented by the truth? All you stated was that my referance to Microsoft, the military, and any other non-open source company was a poor one in relation to the RenGuard program.

I don't know if you realized it, but your wording screwed up your whole point.

"That right there proved you missed my point.

Let me explain it again in terms you can probably (I hope) understand.

Military Program,etc. = secret and not willing to be given out to just anybody.

OK ... agreed. Has nothing to do with a utility for a game that is not supported by its developers anymore. Continue.

"Closed source coding (the Microsoft referance) = secret and not willing to be given out to just anybody.

Proprietary information is what you're looking for. OK, a sense of confidentiality is understood. Continue.

"RenGuard = secret and not willing to be given out to just anybody.

Whoopsie! There's where you messed up. It should look like this:
RenGuard = secret and not willing to be given out because the people who created it would rather play with the fate of the community, rather than ask them for their unity and help.

"See the referance applicablility now? I hope I don't have to spell out why the RenGuard team is unwilling to provide the code (Hint: refer to the referances I supplied)

No, I really do not.

So your a philosopher huh? Then please tell me your thoughts on Descartes meditaions of first philosophy. I'd also be interested to see what you think of Locke's presentation of personal identity, Hume's idea of cause and effect and how it deals with the 7 different philisophical ideas relating to said cause and effect. And let's not forget about Niezche and his feeling of morality (Just to name a few, though I guess I could also ask about Freud).

You don't need to know anything about programming to understand that ope source programming is an attempt to circumvent (not a bad thing) the mega businesses by allowing the "common folk" to produce similar if not better products by being able to view the programs coding.

Nope, mt wording didn't screw up my point. It states it right there in white, and well, black or green. Try taking another crack at it again. All I had been stated in my previous posts was the truth of the situation. You in turn made it out to be I was working, or part of "the machine". So I ask you again, since when is speaking the truth being part of "the machine".

RenGuard is playing with the fate of the community by not allowing the source code out? Odd. If thats the case, the military is playing with the security of a nation by not letting their secrets out and by not allowing the public to help, and being united under it. You could also say that about microsoft as well. But then again, this will go right over your head, and you'll miss the point completely.

Finally I'm not surprized that you don't get my statement about the teams reluctancy to release the code. Oh well, I've tried explaining it to you a number of times, and I highly doubt your limited ability to comprehend will understand yet another explination.

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		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: warranto on Tue, 28 October 2003 12:50
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: fl00d3d on Wed, 29 October 2003 12:15
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: warranto on Wed, 29 October 2003 12:33
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: AnarchisT -BiO- on Sat, 01 November 2003 00:13
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: Cpo64 on Sat, 01 November 2003 00:25
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: tanhm07 on Sat, 01 November 2003 08:11
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: Jelly on Sat, 01 November 2003 09:35
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: boma57 on Sat, 01 November 2003 10:32
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: fl00d3d on Mon, 03 November 2003 09:38
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: warranto on Mon, 03 November 2003 10:33
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: fl00d3d on Tue, 04 November 2003 05:57
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: exnyte on Tue, 04 November 2003 06:11
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: warranto on Tue, 04 November 2003 08:02
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: K9Trooper on Tue, 04 November 2003 08:46
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		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: K9Trooper on Tue, 04 November 2003 10:12
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: Crimson on Tue, 04 November 2003 11:18
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: warranto on Tue, 04 November 2003 14:44
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: K9Trooper on Tue, 04 November 2003 14:54
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: warranto on Tue, 04 November 2003 15:02
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: Jelly on Tue, 04 November 2003 19:20
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: boma57 on Tue, 04 November 2003 19:29
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: mrpirate on Tue, 04 November 2003 20:17
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: fl00d3d on Thu, 06 November 2003 11:04
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: exnyte on Thu, 06 November 2003 12:19
		To those who DEMAND proof on a program By: tunk on Sat, 08 November 2003 10:48

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