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This other anti-cheat [message #50787] Wed, 08 October 2003 14:59 Go to next message
Titan1x77 is currently offline  Titan1x77
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What a joke..

They can't even explain how it works in a readme...

"-=|AntiCheat 3.0|=-

-Ok well i finally fixed the spray weapons bugs at last and i also found out a way u can still cheta with god mode but have fixed that.Everything seems to be working if you havenoticed any bugs tell me(BlazeDragoon) and i will do what i an to fix it..same goes for any cheating that might sitll be happening in this mod."

I asked how it works on cncammo(since they can't even set up a forum for this so called anti-cheat)

And still no Clear explanation on how the server uses it.

I figured it's just a .pkg full of WW maps and thats all the server runs.

wow...anyone and everyone probably knew that a .pkg run's independtly allready.

I geuss it would be good for non-fan map servers...but almost every server runs atleast 1 fan map


"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx

Anti-Cheat 3.0 NEW Anti-Cheat Mod! [message #51001] Fri, 10 October 2003 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EnderGate is currently offline  EnderGate
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It's not rocket science...

To play on a server running the new 3.0 Anti-Cheat Mod, download AC3, extract the .pkg into your Renegade/Data directory. Now you can join Servers running the AC3 Mod.

The Mod just restores CnC Mode, in effect blocks BH and the object.ddb file..

Server owners, for more information check our site...
http://www.ozclan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1726

Ya, the readme is limited, however mirror this for download on your own servers, don't be a leach. Teach your ppl.

If you don't like it, don't trust it, or don't care, cry me a river elsewhere, lol. If you find BlazeDragon missed something, please post him.

Let us see your effort... http://www.ozclan.com/forums/images/smiles/hipman.gif
This other anti-cheat [message #51172] Mon, 13 October 2003 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Titan you are very noobish. We fully explained to you how it worked on ammo's forums and if you would actually care to look up our stuff before flaming you would see on our site how we are running topics for which fanmade maps to include so please Stfu until you know what is happening Smile.

Btw good job Renguard team can't wait till we see some product and do not listen to titan he seems to be thinking it is some competition between us?? very strange person he is but good job guys. If u want to get in contact with us email me at stt_meow@hotmail.com or use blaze_jelly_mods@hotmail.com
This other anti-cheat [message #51187] Mon, 13 October 2003 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ya, this is NOT a competition with Renguard, I believe RenGuard will be the PunkBuster for Renegade.

Why do people that know nothing, think they know everything?

http://www.ozclan.com/forums/images/smiles/hipman.gif
This other anti-cheat [message #51225] Mon, 13 October 2003 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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because it makes them feel smart
This other anti-cheat [message #51227] Mon, 13 October 2003 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, cncammo "advertised" you guys as "out before RenGuard"... came across to me as an insult but I might be wrong .Smile

I'm the bawss.
This other anti-cheat [message #51232] Mon, 13 October 2003 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson

Well, cncammo "advertised" you guys as "out before RenGuard"... came across to me as an insult but I might be wrong .Smile


I don't think they mean it as an insult (I might be posting there but I didn't post the news), I think they just ment it as a temporary way to use before RenGuard.

If not well.........

It's a race to make the first anti-cheat!!! Blaze and jelly or whoever the heck are in the lead!!!! RUN! RENGUARD'S GOT A OFFICAL BOARD MODERATOR COMING! THIS COULD BE THE END!

*crickets*
This other anti-cheat [message #51239] Mon, 13 October 2003 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Na sry crimson we can't help what these guys post that is how it has been on all the sites that post something. "before renguard" "beat renguard" etc. I have posted a few times saying how that we are not competing with anyone and like i said in a previous post we are glad you are doing this. We are just offering a solution to the current problem until a bigger and better version/program is released. I dunno about all the renguard stuff though cause Yes Iam a member of gamesxposed cant help it I was on there long before renegade and Wu-CEO as im sure you know from reading your posts crimson lol is a dick yet seems to know his stuff so make sure you make your program a real "corker" lol I don't want renguard already done with a week after its released Smile.

But like i said no competition we can't help what these admins post on their sites as i'm sure you know. And we are just offering a temporary solution until Final Renegade 2.0 is released then it will be back to the drawing board. You guys might also want to get in contact with me blaze_jelly_mods@hotmail.com Blaze and I have found some weird shit which can get by some of our shit but not posting here.. though Wu is banned you never know Very Happy
This other anti-cheat [message #51302] Tue, 14 October 2003 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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You guys are clueless.
This other anti-cheat [message #51303] Tue, 14 October 2003 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Clueless to what ACK Smile I'm open to suggestions
This other anti-cheat [message #51305] Tue, 14 October 2003 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Clueless to what ACK Smile I'm open to suggestions
This other anti-cheat [message #51306] Tue, 14 October 2003 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This isnt an anti cheat. This is a mod.
This other anti-cheat [message #51308] Tue, 14 October 2003 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jelly is currently offline  Jelly
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does it stop cheats? yes! is it against cheats? yes! So can we name it Anti-Cheat? YES! lol but yes it is in mod format Smile
This other anti-cheat [message #51318] Tue, 14 October 2003 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats like saying that ripping out your CD-rom your disk drive, and dissconnecting your computer form the net is a Anti-Virus...

Not that I think you are wrong,


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This other anti-cheat [message #51319] Tue, 14 October 2003 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We work hard on a program which is for free and to help you enjoy the game and all you can do is criticize? Watch out renguard team!
This other anti-cheat [message #51321] Tue, 14 October 2003 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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It's not a program. It's a modification.

A standard pkg file being run on a server does the same thing that you tout as being an anti-cheat package.

Spare me the drama, please.
This other anti-cheat [message #51322] Tue, 14 October 2003 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now the real question here is what do you prefer. Dealing with cheaters, or having the zero bug? Remembering though that the zero bug is supposedly also a problem with final renegade, and will cause suspition if you get it when switching servers that aren't running the .pkg.
This other anti-cheat [message #51326] Tue, 14 October 2003 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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New version is coming out to fix some stuff look for it and ACK I have yet to see you produce anything against cheating please hold your comments unless they are of some use to stopping cheats and until you know exactly how these cheats work which you seem not to for some odd reason I do not think you should have much say. There are other ways to cheat in this game besides the files in final renegade ACK but as a supposedly major person in this community you should know that and we just find ways to get around these other things. Razz i'm not here to pick fights but come on Smile
This other anti-cheat [message #51342] Tue, 14 October 2003 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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I don't have to "hold my comments" because I don't work on half-assed anti-cheating *.pkg modifications... Sorry, but that doesn't fly with me.

I already know how they work. I've been working with this engine for almost two years. Don't pull this "but i no mre ten u!!!!!1" bullshit with me.
This other anti-cheat [message #51343] Tue, 14 October 2003 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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never did say such a thing i just think if you dont have anything positive to say you most likely shouldn't say it.
This other anti-cheat [message #51363] Tue, 14 October 2003 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK is right.

If you insist on this then Buzzmod is an anti cheat.

It stops cheaters just like yours, But his adds snazzy vehicles. I think ill go with buzzmod
This other anti-cheat [message #51456] Wed, 15 October 2003 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does buzzmod stop things such as Bullets the size of tanks? Have you ever thought maybe there is more files in this pkg then you think? (and no not spyware for whoever accuses of renguard using spyware I forget who.)
This other anti-cheat [message #51458] Wed, 15 October 2003 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viva la Resistance!
To be honest I agree with a little bit of everyone.

On one side you have Blaze and Jelly producing an "anticheat" in mod form. Though it does cut down a lot of the major cheats, it is still a mod and has variables that are not the same as the original packages.

On the other you have Renguard which has not produced anything yet.

There is only one true hardcore FACT here: Blaze and Jelly were the first ones to produce SOMETHING that lessens the effect of the cheats. And for that I applaud you.

It may not be the best solution, but it's sure as hell a step that no one else has taken.

I just hope someone produces a quality anticheat soon.
This other anti-cheat [message #51460] Wed, 15 October 2003 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fl00d3d


There is only one true hardcore FACT here: Blaze and Jelly were the first ones to produce SOMETHING that lessens the effect of the cheats. And for that I applaud you.

It may not be the best solution, but it's sure as hell a step that no one else has taken.


Not true. In such a case: The first anti-cheat would be the first pkg file released. The differance here is that this keeps the game the same (as in.....normal Ren stuff, no new recon bikes, tanks, weapons, etc).

Mods such as Tib Evo, the older Ren Alert public beta, and other pkgs have the same effect (execpt you get new things).
This other anti-cheat [message #51465] Wed, 15 October 2003 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Try to focus people. This is not about egos any more and this is not a contest either. The common goal is still to stop cheating. The fools who criticize the Anti-Cheat Mod team's efforts have, for some reason, lost sight of that very goal. Because of the limitations of the Mod, any Mod, it is common knowledge that is nothing more than a quick fix, where as RenGuard is/will be a long-term solution. The creators of this Mod publicly support RenGuard because of this common goal and, unless there are hidden agendas involved, the support should be reciprocated. Anything else is counter-productive and will further divide what is left the rapidly dieing Renegade community.

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