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| Re: Video: C&C_BattleForMidway G11 by ImperialKaskins [message #489392 is a reply to message #489327] |
Mon, 22 September 2014 15:23   |
Pyr0man1c
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Looks like an elaborate sculpture by a four year old on play dough >.>
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: Video: C&C_BattleForMidway G11 by ImperialKaskins [message #489394 is a reply to message #489393] |
Tue, 23 September 2014 11:21 |
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what fucking funny is a bunch of 30 year olds constantly talking down to people 10-12 years younger than themselves fucking lol
let's see
what sort of 30 year old visits a gaming forum everyday and trolls? such a person is a total drop out of society ugly as balls IRL, motherfucker has no sex life or has a troll faced wife and has a faggy job and is probably depressed as hell that he will forever be a loser wanker.
The real men who actually have jobs, careers, and women wouldn't have the time to log in everyday to a fagforum to rant at teenage mapmakers of a dead game.
man up or GTFO.
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| Re: Video: C&C_BattleForMidway G11 by ImperialKaskins [message #489397 is a reply to message #489394] |
Tue, 23 September 2014 16:20 |
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| bunka wrote on Tue, 23 September 2014 12:21 |
what fucking funny is a bunch of 30 year olds constantly talking down to people 10-12 years younger than themselves fucking lol
let's see
what sort of 30 year old visits a gaming forum everyday and trolls? such a person is a total drop out of society ugly as balls IRL, motherfucker has no sex life or has a troll faced wife and has a faggy job and is probably depressed as hell that he will forever be a loser wanker.
The real men who actually have jobs, careers, and women wouldn't have the time to log in everyday to a fagforum to rant at teenage mapmakers of a dead game.
man up or GTFO.
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| Re: Video: C&C_BattleForMidway G11 by ImperialKaskins [message #489398 is a reply to message #489394] |
Tue, 23 September 2014 17:09 |
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| bunka wrote on Tue, 23 September 2014 14:21 |
what fucking funny is a bunch of 30 year olds constantly talking down to people 10-12 years younger than themselves fucking lol
let's see
what sort of 30 year old visits a gaming forum everyday and trolls? such a person is a total drop out of society ugly as balls IRL, motherfucker has no sex life or has a troll faced wife and has a faggy job and is probably depressed as hell that he will forever be a loser wanker.
The real men who actually have jobs, careers, and women wouldn't have the time to log in everyday to a fagforum to rant at teenage mapmakers of a dead game.
man up or GTFO.
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2/10. You didn't misspell enough words to make it less obvious that you were trolling. You're just phoning it in, man. Stop trying so hard.
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