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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489045 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course I believe that shit, look around, man!

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I didn't write the document, just sayin'

http://www.infowars.com/update-ferguson-protesters-taunting-riot-police/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCgSuZQyaTE

if you look right now those are both live streams of our lovely militarized police departments, have a gander


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489046 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh and by the way, Mr. Obama said he ended the Iraq war multiple times, and yet here we are bombing the same country that we were bombing in 1990... why the fuck do you think I'm against our government? It is OUR government, it is MY country that keeps going around blowing people the fuck away and meanwhile now we're turning our lovely "defense industry" against our citizens!

I fucking live here man, I know it's happening, it's not hard to see, it's okay if you disagree with me about the firearms - but just check out those livestreams and welcome to fuckin' America

Also, you can just, you know, google "ISIS funded by US" and find multiple news institutions admitting that the US, Saudi Arabia and other countries have incontrovertibly funded the rebels... they have the fucking Al Qaeda flag for christ's sake! Obama has been publicly stating that we are funding the "moderate" (LMFAO 'CAUSE THERE'S SUCH A THING) rebels in Syria, and wait, even mainstream news media says the ISIS convoys came out of Syria? Interesting... and of course they didn't bomb them at the time, even though that didn't stop them from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489047 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok so vote every election for progressive candidates and demand a better electoral system. Government doesn't fear your guns and untrained loser beer-can shooting militias.

But it will fear a well-educated, thoughtful and healthy population.

You all chose to not vote for those things or chose not to vote at all.

America's government is a reflection of America. You guys just don't like looking in the mirror.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489048 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is precisely my point, do you somehow think that changes what I'm saying? The government is by the people, for the people... it is directly the fault of the American people that we have allowed our government to get to this point, I'm not saying it's not, but I can't magically make everyone realize that we actually have to inform ourselves accurately in order for the system of democracy to function! They somehow have to figure that out themselves...

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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489049 is a reply to message #489048] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ethenal wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 22:36

I can't magically make everyone realize that we actually have to inform ourselves accurately in order for the system of democracy to function! They somehow have to figure that out themselves...


Actually yes you can. It's called peaceful protest and awareness. It's not that hard but whether you have the balls to do it is the question. Have you joined a political party and campaigned for a candidate you identify with? Have you volunteered your time to assist organizations promoting change?

Buying firearms to oppose some government boogeyman only divides you from your neighbours more. It turns your home into a castle, and turns your fellow man into 'the other.' It leads to you not even capable of communicating ideas without the notion of gun-violence pervading your thinking.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489050 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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did you not click my link? the police just deployed tear gas again -
http://www.infowars.com/update-ferguson-protesters-taunting-riot-police/

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCgSuZQyaTE


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489051 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so don't tell me i can peacefully assemble because our corrupt fucking government does not agree, even CNN's lead fucking headline says "Tear gas fired at protesters" "Official had said 'We won't enforce it with tear gas'"

http://www.cnn.com/


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489052 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm aware of all that. The police force is America. You and your fellow citizens have demanded, directly and indirectly, that your police forces become militarized, thanks to your collective fears of Blacks, minorities and each other.

You're merely witnessing the America that you voted, (or didn't vote) for. It's not pretty.

It's your fault.

Ethenal wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 22:54

so don't tell me i can peacefully assemble because our corrupt fucking government does not agree, even CNN's lead fucking headline says "Tear gas fired at protesters" "Official had said 'We won't enforce it with tear gas'"

http://www.cnn.com/


If you're white, you can peacefully assemble. White American's typically believe that 3 or more blacks/minorities is a 'riot.' Since this continues to be perpetuated, police forces are only acting in what they perceive to be proper fashion, as dictated by voters.

It's America firing teargas at people it has consistently deemed subhuman.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489053 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah, that's real fucking funny, hopefully iran will wake up and start spewing his racist ass fucking bullshit

i don't care if they're black blue white or red dude, they are god damned human beings and this is absolute fucking insanity


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489054 is a reply to message #488751] Sat, 16 August 2014 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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also CNN has now changed their headline lmfao, the police have told them it's not tear gas, even though I hear both livestreams complaining about the burning in their throat and skin

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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489055 is a reply to message #489043] Sun, 17 August 2014 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 22:09

You're being facetious, right? You can't seriously believe that your hillbilly buddies and their guns can protect you from tanks. Or from this:

http://rabble.ca/sites/rabble/files/node-images/mq-1_predator-drone-1.jpg



Seems to be working just fine for ISIS.


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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489056 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 17 August 2014 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So how many 'protesters' (read: looters and rioters) has the police killed? Seeing from Ethenal and nikki's replies I assume at least 24?

Considering how the US is rapidly declining and European-Americans will make up less than 40% of the US population in 2050 the militarization of the police is needed, as the country becomes another Brazil and the welfare programmes end.

Anyway in other good news, ebola is spreading exponentially and in 5 countries now:

http://i.imgur.com/YXdALUO.png

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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489057 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 17 August 2014 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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getting your hopes up when voting every couple of years qualifies greatly for einsteins definition of insanity...

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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489058 is a reply to message #489057] Sun, 17 August 2014 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just wait till the judge dred becomes a reality

fuck america
Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489059 is a reply to message #488751] Sun, 17 August 2014 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856. html#.U_D_q3aMc_w
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nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 23:50

Ethenal wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 22:36

I can't magically make everyone realize that we actually have to inform ourselves accurately in order for the system of democracy to function! They somehow have to figure that out themselves...


Actually yes you can. It's called peaceful protest and awareness. It's not that hard but whether you have the balls to do it is the question. Have you joined a political party and campaigned for a candidate you identify with? Have you volunteered your time to assist organizations promoting change?



Your joking about the protest right, no one cares about people protesting, the only time people notice such things is when the protest gets in the way of their everyday life; and if it gets in the way of enough people's lives measures will be taken to remove said people.

And then there is the media, take a group of people protesting a bad thing. By the time the media is done with it the group of protesters will sound like a bunch of nuts after an outcome that is that they could never get, and the thing they are protesting is in place for reasons too complex for the general public to understand.

nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 23:56

I'm aware of all that. The police force is America. You and your fellow citizens have demanded, directly and indirectly, that your police forces become militarized, thanks to your collective fears of Blacks, minorities and each other.

You're merely witnessing the America that you voted, (or didn't vote) for. It's not pretty.

It's your fault.


Just like it's your fault for allowing one country to become not only more powerful than all the other countries but powerful enough to destroy the entire world multiple times over? Thumbs Up


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dubstar wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 13:19

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856. html#.U_D_q3aMc_w

I like to read the top comments on the article before I read too much into the article, saves a lot of time sometimes.


Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489062 is a reply to message #489060] Sun, 17 August 2014 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^

TL:DR: Blah blah "I'm a feckless lazy white Yankee who likes to complain about the situation but not do anything."

Why do you have weekends and days off? Protest.
Why do you have environmental standards? Protest.
Why do you minorities get to vote? Protest. (Though it seems white Americans are content with minority rights disappearing.)

If you hate your situation, take it to the streets with your cracker friends and exact some real change.


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Yeah Politico is a White House mouthpiece, no thanks

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Re: more guns in america = less crime [message #489064 is a reply to message #489062] Sun, 17 August 2014 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 15:03

^

TL:DR: Blah blah "I'm a feckless lazy white Yankee who likes to complain about the situation but not do anything."

Why do you have weekends and days off? Protest.
Why do you have environmental standards? Protest.
Why do you minorities get to vote? Protest. (Though it seems white Americans are content with minority rights disappearing.)

If you hate your situation, take it to the streets with your cracker friends and exact some real change.

And all you do is bitch about us so your no better, congrats on joining the club Very Happy


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Jerad Gray wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 15:59


And all you do is bitch about us so your no better, congrats on joining the club Very Happy


I like the status quo. It's financially and economically beneficial for me if it stays that way and America continues down its current path. I'm a white male with a tonne of money who continues getting more and more.

I'm only telling you how to win against me and people like me. It's been a pretty easy fight so far.


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wow...

at least you're honest, I guess


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nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 19:47

Jerad Gray wrote on Sun, 17 August 2014 15:59


And all you do is bitch about us so your no better, congrats on joining the club Very Happy


I like the status quo. It's financially and economically beneficial for me if it stays that way and America continues down its current path. I'm a white male with a tonne of money who continues getting more and more.

I'm only telling you how to win against me and people like me. It's been a pretty easy fight so far.

Its a shame that the value of the Canadian dollar has started to decline over the last 3 years, makes that ton of unspent money of yours worth less and less.

Don't see why I'd care to fight against you, someone has to babysit our country while we sit back and do nothing, might as well be Canada. Razz


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Well the other nations of the world are finally getting sick of the fiat US Dollar, as evidenced by the BRICS New Development Bank and the decision by some countries (such as Russia and China) to trade in their own currencies instead of our worthless Federal Reserve bullshit...

It's unfortunate, because the collapse of the dollar is going to absolutely wreck America - this is my home, and I've got nowhere to go...

oh and I didn't watch the live feeds last night, but now the Missouri National Guard is being called out... yay! also multiple reports of the police simply not doing anything to stop the looters...

it appears our overlords are practicing their implementation of martial law... it's gonna be a rough ride my friends


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Pretty much spot on Ethenal about the US $$. It is pretty scary watching it from my side in Banking. I've been converting my $$ to Gold. lol

As far as what's going on here in Missouri (in my backyard), the Ferguson residents are peacefully protesting. It's been proven it's our normal every day criminal that are coming up from the bad parts of St. Louis starting the violence so they can loot. National media seems to be ignoring that.

The National Guard unfortunately is needed because St. Louis County which Ferguson contracts for Police assistance can't handle this situation and the State Police just isn't staffed to cover this either. St. Louis County took the position they will not have more potential loss of life over property. They even pulled support from the liquor store that provided the tape of M. Brown choking the store owner and taking what he wanted without paying hours before he was killed.

Ferguson is a small suburb of St Louis with limited services such as Police. This officer that shot M. Brown probably makes about $25,000 a year and thought I'm not mking enough to deal with this ass and laid him out. The fact the Officer had to use deadly force when M. Brown had no weapon says to me he acted incorrectly. M. Brown should never have had access to the Officers gun as the Officer claims M. Brown grabbed it. We should have heard about a Taser or club being used 1st. So the protestors seem to have a good cause to peacefully protest imo but not loot. M. Brown should be alive with either his brains scrambled and/or badly beaten. But not shot 6 times (2 in the head from above!)



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