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| Re: Good job [message #487912 is a reply to message #487910] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 06:30   |
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| renalpha wrote on Thu, 19 June 2014 05:31 |
Lol so there are just a few people who actually managed to make something of their lifes?
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Virtually all of those people left a long time ago
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: Good job [message #487916 is a reply to message #487838] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 11:58 |
InternetThug
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brb no emotions
i'm so sociopathic i spend my time outside the internet working with children with severe disabilities for a living. god you internet nerds are cute.
also renalpha you are the pastiest skinniest wigger faggot i've ever seen on this website. i wish i could unsee all the pics of you i've witnessed over the years, don't ever talk to me again captain snapback.
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| Re: Good job [message #487918 is a reply to message #487838] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 12:33 |
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well the only reason i came here was because i was back on my laptop to check some work for school and accidentally clicked this website cause firefox puts some random websites in your bar. then i thought i better check out if xpert or iran are still posting because i had my hunches that either of them might have been elliot rodger. but you make a valid point ethenal it's kind of hypocritical, i should let you guys go back to doing what you do. (being on the internet 24/7/365).
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| Re: Good job [message #487919 is a reply to message #487838] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 12:53 |
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Hey Jesse,
I dont know what your problem is, but why are you feeling offended if you dont care and have a life?
Seriously, yet again. That picture of you is disgusting. The photos you've seen should be an example who you should want to be.
Seriously man, you are ugly. I can't imagine you actually work with these children. Based on your photo you look actually retarded.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50 |
I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! 
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| Re: Good job [message #487920 is a reply to message #487919] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 13:19 |
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| renalpha wrote on Thu, 19 June 2014 12:53 |
Hey Jesse,
I dont know what your problem is, but why are you feeling offended if you dont care and have a life?
Seriously, yet again. That picture of you is disgusting. The photos you've seen should be an example who you should want to be.
Seriously man, you are ugly. I can't imagine you actually work with these children. Based on your photo you look actually retarded.
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lol then you're not looking at the correct picture renalfag. get rekt trist LOL
do you even know which picture is the one of me? bahahaha you think im offended? good joke bud where's your snap back and wigger wife beaters? they were a good look for you. i wish i could look like such a skinny piece of ugly shit.
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| Re: Good job [message #487924 is a reply to message #487838] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 13:56 |
InternetThug
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he was clearly talking about the one i posted if you can decipher english at all. based on your posts and spelling ability i'd say it's questionable though.
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| Re: Good job [message #487928 is a reply to message #487838] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 19:24 |
InternetThug
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ok i do work for my own living you just keep bringing my parents up so i thought i'd tell you the facts.
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| Re: Good job [message #487930 is a reply to message #487929] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 20:06 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 19 June 2014 19:58 |
What work?
Your life story: Goes to 100%-parent-funded local UW school, fails out off of academic probation. Then enlists in an EMT course but fails out of that or just stops going. Eventually goes back to school and attends a different UW campus. Suddenly claims he's in medical school and works with disabled children through his program. Suddenly claims he has a job supporting himself working with disabled children, insinuating he's already somehow finished medical school when he probably hasn't finished his 100%-parent-funded college AKA Obamasocialism.
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not one part of this is true lmao but i'm glad you're becoming butt buddies with ethenal .. the kid with no education outside of highschool i might add
never seen a worse game of telephone than the nerds trying to describe my story of an academic career. hahaha so angry. brb minimum wage. brb government assistance. next time the story is told i'll have tried to go to uw for two years and then fail out and work minimum wage, it's like people will have me completely confused with liquidv2.
i hope you're not ignoring your wife and daughter to fight people on the internet like most normal 40 year old men do
you look like such a nice guy too  why are you so mean to me ack?
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| Re: Good job [message #487932 is a reply to message #487931] |
Thu, 19 June 2014 21:13 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 19 June 2014 21:05 |
I deliberately avoid talking about where I work and what I do when you're around just because it makes for great amusement to watch you flail around assuming that you know anything about me, how much I make, etc.
I don't even have a horse in this race, I just like watching you get pissed off over nothing. Well, that and Obama. Watching your hidden racism bloom like a decaying shit-covered rose really doesn't get old
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>has 10% of his friend base as white folks
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keep trying bud lmao.
i know you're some programmer geek, you've talked about it many times. i'm not pissed off bud i just enjoy watching you spend your 40 year old hours fighting kids on the internet. someone has issues making friends.
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| Re: Good job [message #487934 is a reply to message #487933] |
Fri, 20 June 2014 00:51 |
InternetThug
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| renalpha wrote on Fri, 20 June 2014 00:38 |
Programmer geeks make more money then a teacher. Period...
Lol and dropping out of school, you would be bait at my fraternity.
You are a Joke!
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i never dropped out, reading comprehension much? who the fuck said anything about being a teacher? what is going on? what kind of fraternity lets in skinny wigger wannabes? can't wait to see what kind of formals you throw in snapbacks and wife beaters.
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