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Re: RenegadeX [message #484626 is a reply to message #484592] Wed, 27 November 2013 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They must have some decent advertising. Six hours ago they had 17,000 views on that video, now they have 35,565.

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Re: RenegadeX [message #484627 is a reply to message #484622] Wed, 27 November 2013 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 01:03


If we're going to delve into technicalities, the number two doesn't mean the word "to" and therefore the acronym is FTP. Wink Otherwise, you're saying Free Two Play. Like when someone says Got Two Go. It doesn't make sense.

RenX is a FTP game as far as I'm concerned. Freeware would be equally applicable, but the terms aren't mutually exclusive.


FTP may be what you like to call it, but the rest of the world uses the acronym F2P. It may not make sense, but that's the way it is.
Remember, "it's Nod, not NOD" and "it's texturing, not skinning"? Same type of deal here.

RenX also isn't a F2P game because the it has no micro-transactions.

If you want some clarity on the acronym and the business model, please have a skim over this link and you'll find out that free-to-play doesn't mean totally 100% free in the same way that freeware does: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/134959/the_design_of_freetoplay_games_.php ?print=1


Re: RenegadeX [message #484629 is a reply to message #484592] Wed, 27 November 2013 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Free To Play, not Free Two Play. I see what you're saying, but that doesn't invalidate my point. Wink I'm not going to start using the number two to replace the word "to". Context should be enough. If I say FTP game, it's pretty obvious I'm not calling it a file transfer protocol game.

Your other examples are iffy - no professional artist I know calls a texture a "skin" (because skinning is something entirely different than textures) and most people who can read know that Nod isn't written as NOD, AKA Naval Ordnance Disposal.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484630 is a reply to message #484592] Wed, 27 November 2013 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The single player one that was released had no Command & Conquer feel to it at all for me, the graphics were great many things were great but other than that it didn't have... the heart of cnc I guess

I can see the online release coming being better by the videos i'm hoping it'l atleast be alittle better than the sing
Re: RenegadeX [message #484634 is a reply to message #484592] Thu, 28 November 2013 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ack, I think you will enjoy the game this time.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484637 is a reply to message #484634] Thu, 28 November 2013 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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does anyone know if there made any gameplay changes?

or is it just a complete carbon copy or some shit
Re: RenegadeX [message #484647 is a reply to message #484629] Thu, 28 November 2013 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 04:40

Free To Play, not Free Two Play. I see what you're saying, but that doesn't invalidate my point. Wink I'm not going to start using the number two to replace the word "to". Context should be enough. If I say FTP game, it's pretty obvious I'm not calling it a file transfer protocol game.

Your other examples are iffy - no professional artist I know calls a texture a "skin" (because skinning is something entirely different than textures) and most people who can read know that Nod isn't written as NOD, AKA Naval Ordnance Disposal.

No professional game designer I know uses the acronym FTP to denote Free-to-Play, but I get the logic behind what you're aiming for. Wink

Also Free-to-Play means something completely different to freeware and is actually closer to meaning freemium, so the texture/skin comparison isn't far off.


Re: RenegadeX [message #484650 is a reply to message #484647] Thu, 28 November 2013 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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perhaps to game designers such as yourself or whatever you call yourself

to the majority of everyone else, free to play tends to mean free.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484651 is a reply to message #484634] Thu, 28 November 2013 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 03:44

Ack, I think you will enjoy the game this time.


Do you and ACK still go at it like 6 years ago as I recall it was like back then? Razz

I remember around way back 2006ish everyone teased you about reborn and about how a newer version was never going to be released. like i recall someone making a joke about hell freezing over..blawblaw then reborn. but anyway after I left the ren community in 2007.. in 2012 so 5 years later I was on moddb or something and was thought about reborn and was like, that mods Gotta be out by now i gotsta check it out.. so i checked and it wasn't and it was still in progress It blew my mind like nooo way its not out yet 5 years later ;p releases 10 years apart

Im sorry im not coming down on you for it just funny in a good way no insult intended, the 2013 release is great I tried it once and now thinking about it.. Im tempted, is there any online games active do you know? ill check anyway.. but great work obviously you had tons of projects going and prob took your time went back and fourth or whatever.. If I started a renegade conversion mod i'd of given up before I started lol



Re: RenegadeX [message #484653 is a reply to message #484626] Thu, 28 November 2013 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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shaitan wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 21:46

They must have some decent advertising. Six hours ago they had 17,000 views on that video, now they have 35,565.


That's because it was posted on reddit.

Also, as far as the "free to play" thing goes, from my understanding that was the agreement between the game's team and EA. EA allowed them to use Command and Conquer assets as long as they never charge money for the game.

Sounds good to me?

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Re: RenegadeX [message #484664 is a reply to message #484592] Fri, 29 November 2013 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Renegade X standalone multiplayer beta will be out on February 26th,
2014.


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Kamuix wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 22:53

Renardin6 wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 03:44

Ack, I think you will enjoy the game this time.


Do you and ACK still go at it like 6 years ago as I recall it was like back then? Razz

I remember around way back 2006ish everyone teased you about reborn and about how a newer version was never going to be released. like i recall someone making a joke about hell freezing over..blawblaw then reborn. but anyway after I left the ren community in 2007.. in 2012 so 5 years later I was on moddb or something and was thought about reborn and was like, that mods Gotta be out by now i gotsta check it out.. so i checked and it wasn't and it was still in progress It blew my mind like nooo way its not out yet 5 years later ;p releases 10 years apart

Im sorry im not coming down on you for it just funny in a good way no insult intended, the 2013 release is great I tried it once and now thinking about it.. Im tempted, is there any online games active do you know? ill check anyway.. but great work obviously you had tons of projects going and prob took your time went back and fourth or whatever.. If I started a renegade conversion mod i'd of given up before I started lol






It is out now. Smile
Re: RenegadeX [message #484672 is a reply to message #484592] Fri, 29 November 2013 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RenegadeX [message #484673 is a reply to message #484653] Fri, 29 November 2013 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jaspah wrote on Thu, 28 November 2013 15:54

shaitan wrote on Wed, 27 November 2013 21:46

They must have some decent advertising. Six hours ago they had 17,000 views on that video, now they have 35,565.


That's because it was posted on reddit.



I'm sure Kotaku brought a good number of views.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484692 is a reply to message #484592] Sat, 30 November 2013 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Being a tester for it, I can say it isn't a carbon copy of Black Dawn. And not just because it is multiplayer.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484719 is a reply to message #484664] Sat, 30 November 2013 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Fri, 29 November 2013 13:41

The Renegade X standalone multiplayer beta will be out on February 26th,
2014.


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Re: RenegadeX [message #484741 is a reply to message #484592] Sun, 01 December 2013 01:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there any talk of mod tools or mapping tools I wonder?

and if it does turn out to be good I think i heard something about lord Aircraftkillers plans of making a Renegade-X Renalert conversion mod using his already existing 3D models and map models.. could happen

EDIT: Just saying because it looks like he's bored to tears these days Razz

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Re: RenegadeX [message #484752 is a reply to message #484592] Sun, 01 December 2013 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh I can feel it getting warm already... the flame...

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Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

Re: RenegadeX [message #484765 is a reply to message #484592] Mon, 02 December 2013 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am also a tester on it. It is far more fun than Renegade for now. I can't wait to have servers with 64 players.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484772 is a reply to message #484765] Mon, 02 December 2013 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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has damage from ramjets to light vehicles changed?
Re: RenegadeX [message #484775 is a reply to message #484592] Mon, 02 December 2013 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hopefully the maps are scaled a bit larger than Renegade ones, because 64 players on a Renegade map sounds like a not so fun time lol

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hey liquid, the maps seem to be scaled up. I found an old 2011 video showing the maps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njMzqLLtqWU

I think Fobby and Co did a great job. I was unable to play Black Dawn due to a Vista bug so the last time I played ReneX was their first playable release.

I will be installing UT3 to practice first person boomhs aiming skills with the Shock rifle so I will be ready for the ReneX Railgun!

Hope it plays like Renegade when it comes to quick-repairing vehicles, dodging hits, sneaking in with helicopters/tech/beacon on some maps and so on.

Once on Islands, I saw crush's Mobius with a rep gun fucking expertly quick-repairing all the way to back of the WF door from the base entrance...lmfao...while getting shot at by the entire Nod team. It would be amazing if ReneX could replicate that.

I mean that's a core feature of Renegade...quick repairing and getting back in the vehicle ready to fire that next shot so you win the tankfight! So I do not know how the getting in and getting off animations will interfere with that...hopefully not. Because that is a key feature.

Does anyone know how the nicks system work in ReneX? Will there be a direct connect option?


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no weapon drop for now from what I know.
Re: RenegadeX [message #484787 is a reply to message #484784] Tue, 03 December 2013 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bigger maps? i'd rather have the maps like renegade ones, suitable for 2v2 - 20v20.
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ehhh wrote on Tue, 03 December 2013 08:51

bigger maps? i'd rather have the maps like renegade ones, suitable for 2v2 - 20v20.

This. Maybe larger ones for the occasional 64p. I doubt however if there will be many servers that will get anywhere near 64p though.


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