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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474943 is a reply to message #474942] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 12:22   |
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from what i gather, cw.cc community war teams were terrible with teamwork, not a lot of them were willing to tech for example, Jelly on the other hand excels at that
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474945 is a reply to message #474924] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 15:15 |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 12:09 |
Jelly has a similar win rate, if not better
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I am pretty sure simpee clear spoony hitman jamie i0ncloud and a bunch of cw guys have helped jelly in some comm matches over the years.
Not to pick a fight just stating some facts.
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474950 is a reply to message #474873] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 17:56 |
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^ Every single clanwar ever played against Jelly, I never really considered being against jelly until recently, just a modified cw.cc team
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474951 is a reply to message #474873] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 18:16 |
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Liquid, I would agree with you until I started playing 2v2 with crush against hitman and wiggles. I actually now believe them when they say they just fuck around in public servers. Not to talk shit about your skill, but how did you actually dominate these cw players? I've played pub games my whole renecareer and I do well myself, but after playing with hitman and wiggles I was COMPLETE shit. My individual skills was nothing compared to theirs. Pistol, tanking, flying, everything. I can't even put my head around the statement "cw players suck at public games". Everytime mudkips, rohirrim, and I are on the same team its pretty much an instant win lol.
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474952 is a reply to message #474873] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 18:33 |
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not gonna bother argueing with liquid lol
cw players are better at every single aspect of the game, except for maybe tunnel sniping, but probably that aswell lol
i dont see how they wouldnt take those skills and use em in public, its not like you're playing vs people who even understand this game
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474953 is a reply to message #474873] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 18:37 |
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also: cw.cc would of easily won every commwar that ever came around, if every individual person involved tried their best, which was barely ever the case, still i dont think i ever lost a commwar while playing for clanwars, and i've played quite some
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474955 is a reply to message #474873] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 22:19 |
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You do learn far more in clanwars than playing public servers.
Every little 1v1 in a clanwars matters, whether its a pistol fight at the start or a tank battle, lose that 1v1 and your team is in the shit. In a public server that isn't really the case, I know you'll get the odd tech rush etc where 1 pistol fight makes a difference, but in the main if you kill 1 dude there's another right behind him.
Someone who learns their skills in clanwars could adapt to public servers quicker than the opposite. You learn how to pistol, fly, tank, mine etc because it all matters. The skills you learn from learning to win all these little battles make a world of difference in a public server. You don't rely on having 3 techs on your arty, learning to to dodge and repair mid-battle is something the majority of pub players still can't do, yet it's second nature to a clanwar player.
I've played both for as long as I can remember on this game, and I can say 100% the shit I learned playing in cw's made me a much better player than just playing public servers.
I used to play both actively, so I got a balanced view of both facets of the game and what involved in each.
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474956 is a reply to message #474953] |
Fri, 21 September 2012 22:40 |
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| Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 18:37 |
also: cw.cc would of easily won every commwar that ever came around, if every individual person involved tried their best, which was barely ever the case, still i dont think i ever lost a commwar while playing for clanwars, and i've played quite some
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I remember you getting a chemmer on complex in a commwar once and everyone on your team whining you were fucking about. Then you stopped an APC rush with it lol
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474965 is a reply to message #474873] |
Sat, 22 September 2012 05:34 |
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playing public makes u worse if anything lol
too many dumbasses that are just too easy to hit, u get used to it and when u play an experienced player, u'll be in trouble
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474966 is a reply to message #474965] |
Sat, 22 September 2012 05:40 |
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| Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 05:34 |
playing public makes u worse if anything lol
too many dumbasses that are just too easy to hit, u get used to it and when u play an experienced player, u'll be in trouble
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You also just learn not to bother as much in public since people do such boring and retarded shit like, camp certain spots, sbh all game, dont care about harv, block, and an unending list of stupid shit people do.
Then you aren't on edge because people aren't constantly attacking you, and doing everything they can to kill you, you aren't as quick and you aren't as good. cw players aren't as good in public as in cw games, but they are STILL better than pub players.
It's just not really worth the effort bothering when people are playing with the intent not to win the game, but with the intent just not to die.
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #474967 is a reply to message #474873] |
Sat, 22 September 2012 06:43 |
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STFU MUDKIPS
CLANWAR PLAYERS SUCK CAUSE THEY HAVE A LIMITED VIEW ON RENNY, SO THEY NOT GOOG NUFF TO PLAY PUBLIC
they play the best players to ever play this game, got more overall knowledge about the game than a public nod/gdi team combined, better tanking & infantry skill, way quicker thinking,but they can not do decent let alone good in a public server, where 30% of the people are under 12 years old(translates to tib sydneys,rocket troopers and chem warriors), 30% is sniping all game long, just sittin on that wall with no intention to progress in the game, 20% is SBH doing nothing all game long, or just plain AFK, and the other 20% is playing their best to win the game, but have absolutely no teamplay or good individual skill(no, i dont call saying "GET STANKS MEET BEHIND HON" actual teamplay)
pretty sure that after you play clanwars on a high level, you'll think public is just a joke, and u dont even try to play serious anymore, along with nearly everybody in the server,that is why i dont think you have a clue on what you're argueing about, liquid...
i been getting mvp*5 and so on 6+ years ago, pretty sure everybody who ever played abit of clanwars was at their peak easily as good as i was back then
ps: i was/am better than orca, but sure enough, he was a better flyer than me, which is probably why i sniped in clanwars and was at one point probably the best AOW sniper to play
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #475020 is a reply to message #474873] |
Sat, 22 September 2012 21:40 |
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| mrhero101 wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 20:16 |
Liquid, I would agree with you until I started playing 2v2 with crush against hitman and wiggles. I actually now believe them when they say they just fuck around in public servers. Not to talk shit about your skill, but how did you actually dominate these cw players? I've played pub games my whole renecareer and I do well myself, but after playing with hitman and wiggles I was COMPLETE shit. My individual skills was nothing compared to theirs. Pistol, tanking, flying, everything. I can't even put my head around the statement "cw players suck at public games". Everytime mudkips, rohirrim, and I are on the same team its pretty much an instant win lol.
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i'm sure they'd crap all over me in a 2v2
for whatever reason, though, they didn't play as well in bigger games
whatever they'd have, i'd kill it
HTMN does well, but much of the time he's just doing silly stuff to make himself happy
Jelly has always had clanwars players involved in it; the owner/creator was from clanwars.cc lol
how is that argument valid? JELLY ONLY WON BECAUSE A FRACTION OF ITS TEAM PLAYED IN CLANWARS ALSO
clanwars.cc (100% clanwars players) vs. Jelly (~50% clanwars players)
if clanwars players are the best, why didn't clanwars.cc win every single com match ever? they've always had 100% of clanwars players on their teams
the team with the most of the best players should win - why wasn't that the case?
| Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 20:33 |
cw players are better at every single aspect of the game, except for maybe tunnel sniping, but probably that aswell lol
i dont see how they wouldnt take those skills and use em in public, its not like you're playing vs people who even understand this game
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perhaps they are, but from what i've seen over the years it hasn't shown through
i'm sorry if you disagree with that; it's just a plain and simple fact
if it makes you feel better, the best player i've ever seen hands-down was a clanwars player
| Hitman wrote on Fri, 21 September 2012 20:37 |
also: cw.cc would of easily won every commwar that ever came around, if every individual person involved tried their best, which was barely ever the case, still i dont think i ever lost a commwar while playing for clanwars, and i've played quite some
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i'm sure clanwars, the most competitive people you'll find in this game, purposely fucked around when their name was at stake
sure they just fucked around when {Os} shit on them
cuz that's not embarrassing or anything lol
| Jellybe4n wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 00:19 |
Someone who learns their skills in clanwars could adapt to public servers quicker than the opposite. You learn how to pistol, fly, tank, mine etc because it all matters. The skills you learn from learning to win all these little battles make a world of difference in a public server. You don't rely on having 3 techs on your arty, learning to to dodge and repair mid-battle is something the majority of pub players still can't do, yet it's second nature to a clanwar player.
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most definitely true
i'm just surprised as to why these well-practiced players didn't come out on top all the time when the games weren't 3v3 or smaller
| Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 07:34 |
playing public makes u worse if anything lol
too many dumbasses that are just too easy to hit, u get used to it and when u play an experienced player, u'll be in trouble
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not a bad point
that's part of what added to my confusion and surprise, seeing these highly trained rene-pros unable to dominate or clean house
| Hitman wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 08:43 |
CLANWAR PLAYERS SUCK CAUSE THEY HAVE A LIMITED VIEW ON RENNY, SO THEY NOT GOOG NUFF TO PLAY PUBLIC
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it seems i've struck a nerve
i'm not doubting that clanwars players are good at what they do
i just find it hard to believe that every single one of them (aside from a handful) were able to be considered some of the best in public games
Spoony, who you might think sucks at clanwars compared to some other players, did far, far better in public games than 95% of clanwars players
explain that one, sir ANGRYMN47
i think, as far as renehistory is concerned, orca is or will be remembered as being better than you (HTMN)
not saying you suck or anything like that
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #475027 is a reply to message #475020] |
Sat, 22 September 2012 23:35 |
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| liquidv2 wrote on Sat, 22 September 2012 21:40 |
Spoony, who you might think sucks at clanwars compared to some other players, did far, far better in public games than 95% of clanwars players
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Spoony is the only one who actually cared about every game he played even in a public server. I know that for a fact, that is why he did better than all the others.
He tried to coach everyone to play, get meds and shit all the time.
PRANG ALL!
GIVE THEM HELL!
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #475029 is a reply to message #474873] |
Sat, 22 September 2012 23:47 |
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liquid, put in a win % counter on jelly and compare the cw players win % to other players win %
or are you too afraid to be proven wrong?
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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| Re: Lost my ReneVirginity tonight [message #475034 is a reply to message #474873] |
Sun, 23 September 2012 00:54 |
Major-Payne
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well there is no win % counter so i can't be bothered and chem all game
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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