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My personal concerns, and opinions about 'RenGuard'. [message #47177]

Sun, 14 September 2003 00:58

Blazer
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But what about your peers? What about the people that work with you that are older than you? Are they more experienced that you? At least that's what I'm deducing from your statement.

Age alone is not a guage for experience. However, age does give one the chance to get more experience if they make use of that time.

fl00d3d

Further, I never had the cozy sysadmin job at my high school. No, I was too busy hacking the network. Now, one could sucessfully argue that it is much harder to secure a network than it is to attack one. I agree. But I'm sure you had a limited knowledge of the OS at that time and you were more or less creating user accounts.

Heh...I'm glad that from a single sentence from me, you assume that I knew nothing and deduce exactly what my job role was. I could tell you that I was the foremost expert, and that I was often pulled out of class to fix things because nobody else knew how the system worked, but that wouldn't matter as you would just find some other detail to nitpick, and it's just plain silly to even debate ones technical competence in high school.

fl00d3d

You flame on me for starting a "competition to see who has the larger balls" ... yet you continue to rave about your life and your accomplishments. You should do what I've done, and just stop talking about yourself and move on.

I didn't say word one about my experience and competence until you questioned them. As for doing what you have done, I probably allready did long ago unless you are working on something new and groundbreaking. I have worked with computer systems all my life and done everthing from hacking, to network security, to circuit design. I majored in Computer Engineering, and made a six figure salary leading a team of 12 IP Systems Engineers, so I will be damned if someone is going to tell me that I have no technical expertise. And yet although you keep insulting me and challenging my experience, when I correct you, you say I am "raving" and "bragging". Whatever dude.

fl00d3d

Explain how the cheats work. Each of them individually. Yes, you may think this is counter productive to your cause, but hear me out.

Then explain exactly what your product does to counter this. You don't have to release code ... (maybe have some people outside your group verify this) ... but put it in dummy language for people that don't understand the technicals behind it. This way they'll have more faith it what you're doing -- and if your program does something other than what you've explained, they can sue your ass.

That's not a bad idea and I have no problem with explaining in detail how the cheats work, after Renguard is released of course...no reason to start another wave of cheating by giving out how its done. As for releasing fake source code, it would probably work, but just not honest. The source code will not be released for the same reason you cannot view the source code to Windows Update patches, or windows itself. You are just told what it does, what it fixes, and thats it. If you don't trust the source then that is your problem. MOST people trust the RenGuard team, as we have proven by our past efforts of time, help, money, and services for the community that we are the "good guys".

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