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Re: To all the servers out there [message #466764 is a reply to message #466715] Fri, 27 April 2012 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
fredcow9 is currently offline  fredcow9
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Registered: December 2005
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your car was searched and a bunch of cocaine was found in the trunk

More like baby powder


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i don't need to feel better; all this did was prove your title further

I have a title?
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i'm fine; you're obviously not because you chose to use cheats

never knew cheating was related to illnesses.
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it would have helped had you come clean about it;

What part of banned for life dont you get? Also what part about I didnt cheat dont you get?
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you're in denial and i don't expect you to anytime soon, since it took you literally years to admit to using R-G-H in n00bstories and st0rm (not like we didn't already know that)

This really shows how little you actually know about noobstories and storm. I never have ever used rgh. Thats just some bullshit.


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using the files you were is considered cheating; they are cheat files
n00bstories does not differ much from Jelly Marathon, and we in no way appreciate you claiming to be a Jelly player in any sense of the word

?


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certainly not by the same process that covers serial bans
as i so clearly stated numerous times already Blush


so again, not caught doing anything wrong.

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i'm a fixed record, working properly

Ill notify everyone
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it is actually you that is broken

wheres the mechanic?
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if i didn't know any better i'd say you're just a successful troll
i have no problem correcting you though


waiting for the first correction.

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i believe you were forum-banned due to the PM convos that you had with moderators; there was likely no need to allow you to continue posting when you were clearly going to continue lying about it

no, the form ban came when lurker suggested it in the topic. I dont know when the ban took place because I didnt log onto jelly for a few days but when I went to log on I was banned and checking the end topic lurker is who you see.

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well derfie, it goes like this
if i didn't know any better i'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's not the case here

The same liquid who stated Id give any other player the benefit of the doubt besides fredcow
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since i know you've cheated for years in other servers and just recently got caught using cheats on Jelly Marathon why should i believe you haven't been using cheats on Jelly Marathon for months?

Because your faulty in thinking Iv been using cheats straight for years...wow

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i never claimed to know everything, and i don't honestly think i know everything
if i thought i knew everything i would likely try to use my knowledge to win in casinos!

free money yay!
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the first incident with st0rm was literally years ago; are you trying to dispute my statement of "considering you have been using cheats for well over two years now"? you used R-G-H at least several times in the past few years; do you deny this truth?

Its in massive dispute.


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you should quit shaking your head and try to be honest here

already was, so the head continues its shaking motion. smh


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i don't actually believe you still play
though,

I dont play in jelly servers Rocked Over
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if you did, you'd likely go unnoticed unless you started using aimbot or something like you did in n00bstories and st0rm

aimbot, another useless hack. guess youll never know what I was using at the time.


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color=skyblue]i'm going to assume you're spouting nonsense since you can't back it up in any way, shape, or form

you know what they say about assuming
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if you're going to venture an opinion out there on a matter you should at least be able to back it up[/color]

opinions are opinions...not facts EVER.


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that's a lie, and i already covered it in my previous post
i have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but i hope they have a reason for it
there have been many occasions where people with differing opinions changed my mind on them because their reasoning made far more sense than my own

excellent.


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you're more than welcome to think that this is just a conspiracy theory to get rid of you because you're an outspoken individual that challenges the mod staff on issues because everyone else is just too afraid to speak up
you're quite a mighty hero there derfcow; i hope someone writes an epic poem about you someday

maybe they will like the strong bads childrens book.
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that, or you were banned for cheating and are trying entirely way too hard to deny it

LOL you still think I have reason to deny anything in a neutral forum where I basically told the jelly mods to piss off?
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you would never have been banned had you not been cheating; had it been someone else on that name they would have been banned too because - guess what - they were cheating

nah, you guys know who I am.
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had it been me i would have been banned and demodded / likely banned from everything Jelly-related

because as a mod your entrusted with things. as a player your entrusted with nothing, just provided a place to play by some kind people who keep a good server going.


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it's certainly starting to seem that way

what was the point of that?

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like i mentioned above, your case was discussed with moderators via PM
they allowed you the chance to come clean,

WHAT!? ask scruffy and torn for the pm's post them here and show me the entry point of "comming clean". If I had the chance to lie and say I cheated, I would have. always remember all banned persons get unbanned by telling mods what they want to hear. No one is actually "sorry" or "remorseful"
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but since you opted to lie instead they decided to lock the topic

Thats not why, I never got a chance to do anything and you know it.
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the piece of my post that you quoted is referring to your years of being on the Jelly forums, for the record
i'm sure it doesn't help your case that people know how thick-headed and unreasonable you are; were you just a random player they would likely be more lenient, but since you're a long-time regular and expected to know better you were probably not given any leniency

Which is what I get for being loyal to a server for almost a decade. I hope the other regulars read that part because thats fucked up.

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that's the thing; i don't think you actually realize it when it happens
that explains why you're still denying this to the grave

No I just didnt see what warrented dishonest fuck in your last post.
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some people can't help but lie; they can be caught red-handed shoplifting by a police officer and on video camera and still they lie about it
i'm beginning to think you just may be one of those people

well Im not.

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i'm speaking to you as a person, not a moderator
you can hold that against me if you'd like, but no one ever said i have to be courteous to you

no but it shows your character
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especially not after you've cheated and lied about it in a server i've moderated on and been a part of for years

save the semantics.


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i don't know derfie; is there a way to measure thick-headedness?

your supposedly the thick headed expert.

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you can ask anyone that's observed you on the Jelly forums and knows what of you that i know; i'm sure you'll get a similar response

only because your an admin, people tell me different things.
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i spoke on Mumble to a former ren player last night and was going to mention you cheating and getting banned; i said "Remember fredcow?" he said "The annoying retarded guy?" i didn't have to say anything; he came up with that all on his own

cool story, I spoke with many former mod/admins throughout the years (thus how I know what I know about the server) actually on jelly server about just how retarded you and SOME of the other admins are. I never really believed any of them until recently.


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it's just my observation, as un-biased as i can make it

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i'm being completely honest with you

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the way you're acting after having cheated in a video game is why i said what i said, if you're wondering

LOL
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it has nothing to do with cheating in a video game, though i'm sure a correlation could be made somewhere

nah its just your character.

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i'm no psychiatrist derfie, and i'm not sure what mental ailment would most fit your description

so why would you claim im mentally ill if you dont even know what mentally ill really is?
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i don't have to quote anything; look at what's happening with this entire situation

there is no situation in case your wondering.
Huge
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just put huge quote tags around it
tags

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perhaps my character has an issue with ignorant idiots who continue to spew idiocy even after being shown that they're wrong

As stated before, anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot.
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in your case though, i'm accepting that you can't help it and that i should try to be nicer to you

nice pr

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i don't recall you ever encouraging people to question you

Its because you dont read my post contents.
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interesting point, however, because you ignored most everything that didn't agree with your position

funny you did the same.
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perhaps you think moderators should be more like yourself; that's how you end up with a dictatorship Big Ups

I do?

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no, it's certainly not

Big Ups
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you've done nothing to prove otherwise in all the time i've known of you either

my interactions with you are done on a basic as possible basis because I know your not one to actually read anything or even note anything that shows your wrong. Why argue with a stone wall? I never interacted with you outside of the public forum. I have been with the forums for many years, the public forums is not where all my conversations take place...


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i detect a hint of sarcasm!

ding ding ding!
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however, this is an accusation that you cannot back up

of course
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i hope you have the decency to retract your baseless statement; it's essentially a lie

how?
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i don't expect that of you though derfie Razz

shows more about your character. derfie.


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perhaps you can show an example of this; i don't believe it actually happened Blush

Of course Im down to waste my time.

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you said it all right there
"Why did you even tell me this? I dont care"

If I said it all why did you respond to it?
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you needn't say more; you've made it quite clear that you don't much care about anything that doesn't agree with you in the first place

No, Iv made it quite clear I dont care about you. Your taking yourself and applying it to everyone else. facepalm.
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since the Jelly mod staff doesn't agree with your claim of innocence you don't care about them (even though they're right)

would you?


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absolutely not; where is this baseless accusation coming from? you have a habit of spouting nonsensical garbage that cannot be supported in any manner

wheres the garbage disposal?
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in the past i have agreed with you on various issues, though i doubt you remember

sure, I know you didnt used to be entirely unreasonable.

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you can think all you want that i'm a closed-minded, biased individual

why even write that then?
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i know you will anyways, but i would like if you could prove such a thing

let me waste my time.
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i'd like to say we both know you can't, but at this point i'm wondering what reality you actually exist in

do you really?

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not seeing it
please, do tell Tell Me

try some glasses then.

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LOL
jesus christ dude, it was an example

not sure if trolling or just an idiot

thats what I was thinking when I read it tbh.

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i never claimed you are mentally ill; i said i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you actually were
i said i think it would be for the greater good of mankind if you don't reproduce; that's my opinion based off of everything i know of you thus far

Thats pretty fucked up.
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for all i know you could really be nothing like you portray yourself on the internet and be fooling me good!

Big Ups
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from what i can tell you're an extremely ignorant, thick-headed individual; i shouldn't have to go back and gather evidence of situations where you did a good job of making yourself look this way

Do you think I would present myself to you in any other way?
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you should be able to use this very situation as a good example, rather than trying so hard to maintain your false innocence

theres no innocence to argue about, because I am innocent.


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of course not; where did i say such a thing?

I dont think you read your own words
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something you have never done and likely will never do

^but thats too common in your posts.
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there were some times where you tried to back something up, but your reasoning made no sense and was refuted by others' logic or reasoning
that didn't seem to matter to you though, because you likely dismissed it or filtered it out because it differed from your own opinion

Like your doing right now.
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if you really are mentally ill, i'm sorry for giving you such a hard time

thats in line with your character.
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i had the impression you were just an ignorant assclown on the other side of Lake Michigan

impressive.

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the person that i spoke to isn't even someone i know well; he's a former player and played in Ren-Archive
he posted occasionally and knows some people that i do actually know

and that person and the text you speak of will remain anonymous.
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this person, at random, had come to the same conclusion about you that i have

are you surprised?

No, if people dont hate on you then your probably too busy sucking everyones dick to notice how much of a spinless noob you are.

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when i'm wrong about something i have no problem admitting to it

according to yourself.
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you're nothing like me;

woah where did I claim something that stupid?
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you cheated and lied about it for years to dozens, if not hundreds, of people

nah I told about 15 people. 3 immediately after in its progress.
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and that's about something as silly as using cheats in a computer game; you couldn't even be honest about that Laughing

You take this all too seriously. the cheats were used for fun, something it seems you cant have.

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why wouldn't i? it's true Smile
just because it doesn't match the picture of me you painted in your head does not make it untrue

going round in circles.

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the player did not cheat; he put R-G-H in the corner of the screenshot as a joke

who knows if thats even the truth
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no one realized it had been a faked screenshot
why would i allow anyone to cheat? that's just silly

Well now im uber skeptical of that.

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i doubt that, but ok
and whether you run cheats now or not is beyond me; you were banned for having and using them at the time that you were banned
and now that you've admitted to using *cheat name removed*in communities that have neighbored Jelly you probably aren't very welcome

I didnt want to be welcome there, st0rm is a joke and noobstories became a huge joke. jelly is turning into one of those fad jokes on the verge of becoming the joke.

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by not playing because you're banned for cheating? Surprised

oh the naiveness of some people.

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the coke was in the trunk; you can't rewrite history, no matter how many times you try

the baby powder was in the trunk, some officers apologized but the chiefs of police stood their ground because the mayor would have a fit.

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you likely would have been banned from Jelly a long time ago

Iv been banned 2 times before. Jelly himself was logical enough to let me back in after an allotted amount of time. again you dont know as much as you think you do
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not once did you do anything remotely suspicious that i can recall in all your time there, and i applaud you for that

Thumbs Up
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what makes you think i'm supposed to be involved in anything? this is another pointed statement with no actual basis
i hope you can back it up in some way

Listen
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because a handful of people knew about it does not mean that n00bstories or st0rm knew, which is what actually mattered

It was just too funny seeing them squirm about it. If they had gotten the cheat right then sure. But they all didnt even think about the cheats I did use. STILL.
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for the record, you were a serious dipshit on both of their forums when the bans came around

I know and I feel bad that I got unbanned there. Especially considering I got banned for life without being able to say anything for not even cheating.
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your little one-line apology in the OP is almost a slap to the face of the people that had to spend their time dealing with your immaturity

You think they dont deserve to know the truth so they can prevent maliciousness to their server in the future?

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are you just anyone? no, you're not
you were a longtime regular, and as such are expected to follow the rules more than just anyone

Thats what I get for supporting a server over the years.
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you even participated in inter-community wars (and maybe even a community war or two - i'd have to check to be sure)

yes
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you also openly cheated on two neighboring communities, and managed to get banned at least once for breaking rules on the Marathon server

indeed.
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had you admitted to it like a man you'd likely be unbanned in time,

no, scruffy made it extremely clear in his pms posts, and locking of topics/forum ban that there was no hope.
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but like a child you chose to deny it exactly like you did at n00bstories and st0rm when you were banned on their servers
you were a real prick about that too

I was egged on to be a prick and see what I could get away with. Getting around their shit isnt hard anyway.


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that's a half-admission, but not a full one
you're so very close!

did you not read any of my posts previous to this one?
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the fact that you, a longtime regular and known player, decided to use cheats is in a way a betrayal

stabbed in the back!
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if the mod in question decided to give you a lifetime ban it wouldn't be unwarranted

So I didnt have a chance or I did have a chance? what is it
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were it my call though, it wouldn't be a lifetime ban
had you at least admitted to it in the first place


I would have said whatever satisfied the people at the time, but I didnt even get that.

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because someone on the internet was wrong!
i'm trying to set the record straight, but in your case the record is broken and i'm likely just wasting my time being reasonable and rational with you

as am I

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oh dear
the fact that they were in there is proof that you were using them; they are active there

silly liquid, dont you know how to make them inactive? Or is your stance thats not possible?
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it's like having a map in the data folder; it's active and on without having to be turned on

that can be done too.
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this excuse is almost as bad as "Steam put R-G-H on my computer" or "MUDKIPS' cat did it"

why are you constantly involving *cheat name removed*which has NEVER been on my computer ever.


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i'll give you a cookie if you tell the truth!

looks like youv owed me a cookie since post one.

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not all cheats are easy to detect

They are actually easier than you think. I worked with jelly to help catch some of the cheats I used in noobstories and st0rm. surprising how little you guys know about these cheats.
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you also could have been using them for years and just sucked so badly that no one noticed anything out of the ordinary

no, not really

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Lurker is a former mod, and he's a good guy
however, i really doubt that Lurker forum-banned you or was the deciding factor in you being forum-banned

not hard to figure out

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i'm unfamiliar with the expression, but if you understand then great - i don't have to keep explaining it

It refers when someone gets up to make a speech on a quick object that elevates them from the crowd as to draw attention. They then proceed to make some sort of moving or speech of information.
It was sarcasm m8

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do you have anything other than that, because you were mistaken when you thought i let a player cheat as a joke? the player didn't cheat; again, he edited a screenshot in Paint or Photoshop and put the tag in the corner
he was going to put shit on the radar too but i said that was probably unnecessary to be convincing
again, i had no idea it would fool so many people
a harmless joke turned into a huge ordeal, and i accepted the fault and moved on
i wouldn't do anything similar in the future because of how that turned out; my sense of humor is not always modlike

You know how serious people in this game take cheats, look at the way you regard cheats as only being for sick people who need help to be good at the game. Posting something on that forum like that if your storys true is extremely fishy. I believe you, im not that unreasonable but surely you see the baseless accusation I just made as ludicrous? thats what Im going through. Your guilty for allowing cheats in your server as much as I am guilty of cheating in your server.

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dave2916 is skeptical
you have no proof whatsoever that Scruffy forum-banned you or his reasoning for it;

here you go
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Yes remove him forever scruffy... Ban him from forums too

He still not sending a link of the skinpack.

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It's already gotten hits on a few regular players... and with that.

Fredcow is permabanned, this topic is locked.

liquid I know more about how you guys work than you may think. I know about the mod forums ect ect. their channels. maybe scruffy didnt make it happen but its hard to doubt given the 2 quotes above are the ONLY clues I have since I cant even log in to check any pms

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all you know is that you were forum-banned
Mike kicked you for destroying a mass? why are you surprised that that happened?

he was th with the mass and was a half mod.
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the "banned for two weeks for giving tanks away" doesn't sound familiar to me; was that an error with the bot not letting you back in, or was that the incident where you were teamkilling and xxxozxxxx talked to skeptical about it?

This was when I supposedly gave 2 tanks away and as a result received 2 weeks in ban time. Maybe you actually arent as unreasonable as I thought and legitimately just dont know about the things Im saying.
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i didn't allow a player to use R-G-H, and you misunderstood my post

I got it.
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i allowed a player to post a faked R-G-H screenshot, and it ended up being so convincing that he was banned for it
the mistake was mine, and i unbanned him and apologized to the moderator both in private and in public

excellent.

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so it's because people that dislike you and are biased against you became mods that you are banned now,

skeptical banned me for 2 weeks. I had run in with him as a trial mod
scruffy didnt used to be an admin, he was just a mod and he never took much of a shine to me, Im banned by him.
rice back in the day cried up and down I needed to be banned to mods and got me banned.
I dont have this attitude towards bad modship for no reason. Its developed as a result of my treatment over all this time.
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and not because you used cheats? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook there derfcow

glad we understand each other.
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can you show me one time where a player was banned simply because "the mods did not like them"?

yea let me go through and read every single ban topic and figure that out.
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if you try to cite your own case now then you're not only an idiot, you're also a liar

lol why would I cite myself?

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i'm likely hoping for too much when i ask that you be honest instead of lying in this case

liquid it goes like this. I have friends at jelly, some of them mods, ex mods, not mods. I tell them and trust some of them with information. You have never been in that group which is why you seem to have everything confused about things that happened in the past. This case right here, specifically is a I dont give a fuck case. Its the type of case where Im not going to lie but tell everything exactly as it is. you can believe that or you can simply not believe it. Its really as simple as that.
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what's the worst that could happen? the mods would say No guess what we don't give a shit you're staying banned anyways

I know how mods work and their attitudes. scruffy gave me the first warn I had btw, then gave me a second warn for posting too much after forgetting about that first warn (it had been a while) His quick decisive response of your banned forever and locking the topic immediately only showed there was no chance dude. I dont know where your getting this idea I could have "come clean" (though I came clean about everything in these past posts)

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then you could ban evade or whatever made-up shit you said prior to this

I just play in jelly here and there now, its not ban evading because Im not even rightfully banned with proof.

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