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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464133 is a reply to message #463883]

Fri, 09 March 2012 23:07

jonwil
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ok, so it seems like we have 4 different issues here, crashes, FPS drops, network lag (warping/ice skating/etc) and freezes (i.e. where the game completly locks up and has to be force-quit)

Can everyone with crashes go to their "documents" (or "My Documents" depending on the version of Windows being used) folder, then go to "Renegade" then "Client" then "Debug".
You should see a bunch of .dmp files in there. Please find any files you have that contain r4560 in the filename (that will indicate that its from 4.0 beta 4) and upload them somewhere.

Also if there are people here who are having any or all of the 4 problems (network lag, crashes, freezes, FPS drops) and can easily reproduce said problems on command AND who are willing to work with someone from TT over IRC or IM (probably MSN) to run some tests to find the causes of these problems (and who have time on their hands to actually do these tests), please post in this thread with your contact details (and which of the 4 problems you are having), that would be great.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464145 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 08:42

Ani
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My only issues with the new TT are:

1) Random FPS freezes that occur for like, 100ms every couple of minutes, sometimes more often and sometimes less often. Running fraps alleviates this issue.

2) More warping/ice skating/lag (don't know how exactly to "reproduce that"

3) Menu's seem to have been fucked with for no reason. The general game seems to be more bland looking with grainy edges even if I run everything maxed out..

My contact info;
MSN - Animoski@gmail.com

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464148 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 09:47

NACHO-ARG
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i am abailable now, you can find me at jelly irc as indios

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464157 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 14:16

Xpert
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Also, we plated BasinTS yesterday and for some reason, the map seemed a lot brighter. The fog was more like a white light color than it being actual fog.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464158 is a reply to message #464157]

Sat, 10 March 2012 15:16

Ani
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Xpert wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 14:16

Also, we plated BasinTS yesterday and for some reason, the map seemed a lot brighter. The fog was more like a white light color than it being actual fog.

It seems like this has happened to me on every map tbh. Some maps are less noticeable.. More "bland" is what I use to describe it.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464173 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 17:09

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I don't know how the fuck I typed "plated". I meant "played", but whatever.

Also you might be right, I noticed it on River_RaidTS also.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464175 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 17:14

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The new 4.0 beta seems to be the most unstable Renegade has ever been in the entire time i've had the game. I don't know exactly what it causing these freeze ups but just 5 minutes ago i was typing to the team and it froze before i could send the message.
I've had my game crashing every 5-20 minutes since the new patch came out. I really hope this can be fixed ASAP because it takes all the fun out of playing when every time i crash it leaves my vehicle there for the enemy to take Sad

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As others said, when you try to open up task manager you get an error which states that windows cannot find that program. If you keep task manager up while you play renegade however, you can close out the game quickly when it does at least.

Really frustrating with these lockups...

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464178 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 17:50

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464179 is a reply to message #464175]

Sat, 10 March 2012 17:59

Ethenal
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Blazea58 wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 18:14

The new 4.0 beta seems to be the most unstable Renegade has ever been in the entire time i've had the game.

I've had the same experience. :S

I find it quite strange, honestly - especially after how well beta 3 was working for me aside from some random ammo bugs. However, obviously somebody just made a mistake somewhere and I'm sure they'll get it fixed. I don't have any crash dumps for my errors (other than the one I already uploaded), but I'll be glad to help out if a TT member needs a guinea pig.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464184 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 18:35

NACHO-ARG
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go back to beta 3 or 3.44, i am sure the guys will fix it out soon, they had been doing well in the previus betas, though server owners should do the same until a fix get out, otter way ppl still using beta 3 would be incompatible whit servers runing beta 4.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464185 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 19:31

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Its freezing up for me. If I try to run another program while its frozen I get the windows error Not enough quota is available.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464186 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 19:36

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If it helps any, the "FPS/frame skip issues" and the freezing issue seem to go together. In my experience, in a game lasting roughly 30 minutes, I started randomly experiencing frame skips (I was testing alone on a custom map rigged with some bots that were fighting) and then after about 2 minutes of that it froze. Froze to the point of having to restart the computer by force-resetting it.

Unlike some others, the dialog box did not visually appear however I could tell it existed because I seemed to be able to click one of the buttons on the window (this was tricky because my mouse was invisible unless I moved it over the space that the error dialog occupied). Not sure if that means anything but I do know that the more detailed an error report, the better, so I'm giving just about everything I've got.

First time I experienced this I was using my own custom compiled scripts.dll (which is working perfectly now, thanks again jonwil Very Happy

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), but I retested on vanilla beta 4 and had exactly the same issue.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464188 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 19:54

jonwil
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ok, can someone who is experiencing the FPS drops and freezes and such run task manager and see what the memory use of Renegade is when its skipping frames/freezing/etc?

We may have some kind of memory leak that sits there and eats memory until there is not enough memory left and Windows cant open task manager.

Also if you could check the CPU usage to see if its using 100% CPU (or if its using 100% CPU on one of your cores if you have a multi-core CPU) as that might help us figure out whats wrong.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464192 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 21:19

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Has anything been changed that might affect cinematic scripts? In my last playthrough (lasting over 45 minutes) I experienced no issues until I decided to call down a troop drop cinematic-- it lagged excessively while the troops were being created and as they were paradropping down (although I experienced no crashes or frame skips this time). The times I experienced problems, that calldown script was one of the first things I activated, and ~30 minutes later the game was skipping frames and crashing.

Of the rest of you guys experiencing problems, can you confirm that the servers you were playing on all used cinematic scripts of some sort fairly early on? I know that doesn't necessarily mean it is the cause for 100% sure but if cinematic scripts are a common thread in all these scenarios, it's at least a place to start looking.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464193 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 21:32

NACHO-ARG
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Quote:

the "FPS/frame skip issues" and the freezing issue seem to go together

i had experimented this since beta 3 and instead of crash, the game slow down to 1 fps, i didnt thought that it could be caused by TT since i didnt see reports of something similar wile beta 3 was out, but whit so many ppl having this issue now, i think the sourse of the problem could have come whit some of the changes/fixes of beta 3 and it just got worse with the new update.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464194 is a reply to message #464193]

Sat, 10 March 2012 21:44

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What was causing your issues in beta 3? I played for hours on end with beta 3 and had no problems at all. It was wonderfully, refreshingly stable. Until now...

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464195 is a reply to message #463883]

Sat, 10 March 2012 22:05

NACHO-ARG
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whit beta 3 after 20/30 min the game goes to 1 fps and i must quit and rejoin but whit beta 4 instead of fps going to 1 i get my game crashed.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464206 is a reply to message #463883]

Sun, 11 March 2012 05:28

jonwil
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So is there anyone out there who can reproduce these issues on command or who experiences them every time they play or something?

Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464208 is a reply to message #463883]

Sun, 11 March 2012 06:23

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Just thought I'd report my issue with Beta 4.

When I'm playing Renegade, for the first half hour or so I'll be fine then I notice FPS drops. I look at my task manager and it is high cpu usage causing it. I look at the processes and it's one in particular (not Renegade), DisplayFusion.

If I close that program, the FPS drops will go away. This program does not cause this issue for any other games. It has also not caused this issue for 4.0 Betas 1-3, only 4.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464223 is a reply to message #463883]

Sun, 11 March 2012 11:02

StealthEye
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Whoever has some time to debug this, send me a PM or MSN message. I will send you a custom build of TT to figure out whether the problem exists in that version. This may have to be repeated roughly 6 times with different builds.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464230 is a reply to message #463883]

Sun, 11 March 2012 13:51

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I did some testing yesterday with Jonwil, let me know on IRC if more is needed.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464242 is a reply to message #463883]

Sun, 11 March 2012 16:16

Ethenal
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Crashdump for SEye!

Attachment: crashdump.20120311-231409-r4294967295-n1.zip
(Size: 1.46MB, Downloaded 87 times)

-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464445 is a reply to message #464242]

Thu, 15 March 2012 16:22

Starbuzz
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Three issues:

-FPS drop/skip to unplayable levels as mentioned above...this is a real game killer and so far the most frustrating of the issues. This is followed by a total freeze while requires force restart.

-Maps freezing at the loading screen (halfway in the green bar) and being stuck for a good minute before proceeding to join me in the game. This is a new problem that never happened with the other TT betas.

I am very eager to help, however, despite me having a great computer for Renegade, the freezing really freezes everything and Task Manager is slow to respond and I can't click to see the processes and so on.

My graphics options are set to High with no anti-aliasing and the shader slider under "Extended Options" is all the way down.

roszek wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 17:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryHxz2ZrhcI

Perfect...ty for uploading. For me so far, the FPS drops to unplayable levels before freezing like that.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464447 is a reply to message #464445]

Thu, 15 March 2012 17:29

Starbuzz
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ty for the help StealthEye...my msn is marcstarbuzzAThotmail.com

I will get back to you per the instructions in your PM.

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Re: error after update beta 4 [message #464518 is a reply to message #463883]

Fri, 16 March 2012 15:16

Valherran
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After fighting with the damn Script Install, I got it to run. But now it won't work after I run the config, it bleeps with continous error sounds 7-8 times till it finnaly comes up with a problem message and it needs to close. Hopefuly this Crash Dump File will help...

Attachment: crashdump.20120316-215940-r4650-n1.dmp
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