| TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455847] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 10:50  |
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I am aware that the scripts.dll source code is out there, but not TT.dll or ttle.dll. Anyone care to explain why?
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455850 is a reply to message #455849] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 10:55  |
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 10:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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Not really a good reason, have you heard of the saying:
"Security is not obscurity."
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455858 is a reply to message #455853] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 11:15 |
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| chat wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 11:03 |
I'm not asking for it to make cheats, I'm just interested in why it's not open source.
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Yes you are, you can't hide behind that name.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455859 is a reply to message #455856] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 11:15 |
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| iRANian wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 11:10 |
And he gave you the answer.
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This wasn't exactly the answer I was looking for...
Even if the code ISN'T open source, all it would take is someone who knows assembly and lots of time.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455869 is a reply to message #455849] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 12:18 |
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 13:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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Can't read that? Here, I made it bigger.
To stop people making cheats...
To stop people making cheats...
To stop people making cheats...
To stop people making cheats...
To stop people making cheats...
To stop people making cheats...
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455871 is a reply to message #455870] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 12:26 |
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| Starbuzz wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 12:19 |
| chat wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 10:55 |
| Caveman wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 10:53 |
To stop people making cheats...
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Not really a good reason, have you heard of the saying:
"Security is not obscurity."
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How is not releasing critical dll's amount to security via obscurity?
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They're hiding the anti-cheat code, which should work regardless of it being open source or not. Even if someone were to modify that code, the server should just kick/ban them, simple as that.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455873 is a reply to message #455872] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 12:33 |
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| iRANian wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 12:28 |
It wouldn't, because you could modify the anti-cheat code to have your cheats working if it were open-source.
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What I'm relying on is the fact that the server has a different version of tt.dll that HAS anti-cheat circumvention code, so the cheaters with a different DLL would be kicked.
Sorry if I'm not getting my point out exactly, I'm just asking for this for further modifying the server.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455875 is a reply to message #455874] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 12:45 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 12:43 |
It's not going to be released. End of discussion.
You asked for a response from a member of TT, that was it.
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Disappointed, but alright. Either way I'm relatively sure it won't stop cheaters.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455897 is a reply to message #455847] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 14:04 |
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My point for asking why it was closed source is because having it closed source for the anti-cheat makes me think that the anti-cheat is just an obscure mess.
Really, a successful anti-cheat could be open-source but cheaters STILL couldn't figure a way to enable cheats. Even now when it's closed source, if the anti-cheat isn't good, cheaters will still be able to circumvent it.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455904 is a reply to message #455903] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 14:13 |
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| iRANian wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 14:11 |
That's exactly why Valve Anti-Cheat and PunkBuster are open-source.
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They aren't, but even if they were you still couldn't circumvent it.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455905 is a reply to message #455904] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 14:14 |
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| chat wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 22:13 |
| iRANian wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 14:11 |
That's exactly why Valve Anti-Cheat and PunkBuster are open-source.
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They aren't, but even if they were you still couldn't circumvent it.
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Considering people can and have circumvented PunkBuster at least in the past WITHOUT the source code, I seriously doubt that's true. Not sure if VAC has been similarly circumvented before but I wouldn't be surprised.
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| Re: TT 4.0 FULL source code [message #455907 is a reply to message #455905] |
Sat, 24 September 2011 14:16 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 14:14 |
| chat wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 22:13 |
| iRANian wrote on Sat, 24 September 2011 14:11 |
That's exactly why Valve Anti-Cheat and PunkBuster are open-source.
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They aren't, but even if they were you still couldn't circumvent it.
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Considering people can and have circumvented both of those in the past WITHOUT the source code, I seriously doubt that's true.
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Sure, but then the cheats get banned later on.
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