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Re: jarhead [message #454800 is a reply to message #454782] |
Fri, 16 September 2011 11:25 |
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R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 07:51 | I know I'll never play in a server with him as a mod now since all of the things I heard about him are bad. It gives the server as a whole a bad reputation.
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Well that's silly, but entirely your choice.
Several people have had a problem with him, yes. But not the majority. n00bstories still fills up regulary, so my question is this: Why do people play in the server if he's such a bully?
You should get a first-hand experiance, rather than reading paragraghs about him.
R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 07:51 | why would you need to have an experience with that person to comprehend my opinion of them?
| Simply because, you're basing your judgement on him from second-hand accounts, which isn't really fair. If someone stated something bad about someone and I read it, I'd take it into consideration sure, but I'd personally rather see for myself what the said person is really like.
Chew wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 09:59 | ITT: Azazel thinks he might be able to kiss enough ass to become a mod at NS again.
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I have no intention of becoming a moderator anywhere, I'm simply giving credit where it's due.
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Re: jarhead [message #454802 is a reply to message #454792] |
Fri, 16 September 2011 11:38 |
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Prulez
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Prulez wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 17:53 | On a unrelated note, seriously, do you think anyone appreciates your opinion, let alone respect it or attach any value to it, after your actions in the past?
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nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 | Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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Re: jarhead [message #454824 is a reply to message #454451] |
Fri, 16 September 2011 15:57 |
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Jarhead is not a personal friend of mine. I did meet him once at a gathering of regulars of The Pits in LA back like 6 or 7 years ago. But I did not know him outside of this game.
He is a great guy who doesn't take shit from idiots. The one who are upset are always the ones who cry the loudest. The reason our server stays as full as it does is because those who are unhappy are not the majority. It's because we run a great server.
I'm the bawss.
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Re: jarhead [message #454844 is a reply to message #454800] |
Fri, 16 September 2011 18:41 |
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R315r4z0r
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Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 14:25 |
R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 07:51 | why would you need to have an experience with that person to comprehend my opinion of them?
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See, now you're putting words in my mouth. I have never stated my personal opinion of this jarhead character at all in this thread. I've only reiterated what I've heard other people say.
I don't need a first hand account of someone to know that someone else doesn't like them. I would need a first hand account to form an opinion of the person on my own but that isn't the point I'm making.
MY opinion is irrelevant. It's the numerous negative opinions of others that is the issue here.
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Re: jarhead [message #454857 is a reply to message #454757] |
Fri, 16 September 2011 22:12 |
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Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 03:12 | Therefore, you haven't had a first hand experiance with him, thus you can't make an accurate judgement.
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i trust many of the people i've heard from about him
i don't trust you, and the fact that crimson does says a lot about her as a person
Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 03:12 | He wouldn't want to moderate/admin anywhere else for one reason alone, loyalty.
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that one reason is no one else would put up with his shit
Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 03:12 | He certainly knows how to do his job properly and he'd be a great asset to any community.
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i don't understand how you created this sentence with a throat full of dick
Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 03:12 | I'm certainly not arsekissing, because that's something I wont do. I'm simply speaking my mind, everyone's allowed to have their own opinion after all.
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in my opinion you're a hypocritical piece of shit, and the fact that you of all people are the only one standing up for him doesn't help his case
if anything it hurts it
Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 03:12 | Mudkips: Maybe if you didn't act like a troll so much, he wouldn't have been so hostile towards you? (If he was, anyways).
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maybe if jarhead wasn't a shitty admin people wouldn't have so many issues with him
Azazel wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 03:12 | For players/users that haven't actually had a problem with Jarhead here's my advice to you: Don't believe everything you read about him, because most of it probably isn't even true. So unless you have actually had a "first hand experiance" with him, then it's pointless in saying "I've heard this" and "People have said that". Go experiance what he's really like for yourselves and I bet you'll be suprised.
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for players/users that take anything you say seriously there isn't much hope
your word isn't any more credible than MUDKIPS's word based on your own statement
Jarhead is a heaping pile of shit, and you're the lone fly circling it
anyone reading this topic can identify that immediately
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Re: jarhead [message #454900 is a reply to message #454824] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 09:27 |
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Crimson wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 15:57 | Jarhead is not a personal friend of mine.
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I thought he went to n00bparty - which is why I assumed he was a personal friend, it seems I was mistaken, my apologies.
Prulez wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 11:38 |
Prulez wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 17:53 | On a unrelated note, seriously, do you think anyone appreciates your opinion, let alone respect it or attach any value to it, after your actions in the past?
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I apologise, I've been busy recently so only had time for a couple of minutes, but I'll address what you said here: Probably not, but pretty much all that I've said is true about Jarhead, which is why people get so wound up and state things like "asskisser, throat full of cock" etc. That kind of behaviour might've bothered me 2-3years ago when I was still imamature but certainly not now lol.
MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 13 September 2011 15:02 | want screenshots of jarhead sending angry pms to me, when i was on the ns moderator staff, because he thought i was cheating? I also have screens of him sending pms to dave2916, ilonaus, and other players all along the lines of "one of these days im going to ban you" "we're going to get you..."
| I'm sure mistakes may have been made in the past, but in the here and now he's a great admin that works well with the current staff and everyone gets on great.
MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 13 September 2011 15:02 | shut up azazel, you're just sucking up. having been on the ns mod team yourself you should know better than most people what kind of a retard jarhead is.
| I never had a problem with him and I know the "current staff" don't either. He always acted professionaly, gave assistance to moderators when they needed questions answering. Maybe you didn't get on well with him because you have a bad attitude?
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Re: jarhead [message #454905 is a reply to message #454900] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 10:01 |
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Prulez
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Azazel wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 18:27 |
Prulez wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 11:38 |
Prulez wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 17:53 | On a unrelated note, seriously, do you think anyone appreciates your opinion, let alone respect it or attach any value to it, after your actions in the past?
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I apologise, I've been busy recently so only had time for a couple of minutes, but I'll address what you said here: Probably not, but pretty much all that I've said is true about Jarhead, which is why people get so wound up and state things like "asskisser, throat full of cock" etc. That kind of behaviour might've bothered me 2-3years ago when I was still imamature but certainly not now lol.
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I, personally, don't know Jarhead and I don't even intend too, seeing as how I barely have any spare time and I've got my own server to care about. Besides that, if I would have time to meet him and get to know him and whatever, that wouldn't appeal to me at all, because I'm hearing too much bad stories about them. I know that stories may be blown out of proportion, I can't judge this, but I also know that every story about someone has a truth in it somewhere, and that at least a part of it is true, even if it's blown up to elephant size. That on it's own, and seeing how there are more people who badmouth him than vice versa, doesn't make me want to spend time to get to know him.
I'd like to point out that people aren't wound up because you're supposedly telling the truth about Jarhead, and so on. People are fed up with you being in this thread and being on these forums, as you've got a past in the Renegade community, your presence is unwanted and definitly not appreciated, as you may understand. People are fed up with that, and the fact that you're defending the administrator of the server that you moderated WHILE cheating your ass off, but never admitting that. The irony in being a moderator and banning cheaters, while being a cheater yourself, makes you as a person highly unwanted, and your behaviour on top of that is so ridiculous that it's funny.
nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 | Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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Re: jarhead [message #454907 is a reply to message #454451] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 10:06 |
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So because someone says he's bad, you just won't talk to him? That's kind of shitty to be honest with you. There are plenty of mis-characterizations in this community, you should take the time to talk to people that are being slandered. That way, if they really are as bad as everyone said they were, you'll know for sure.
/Also, regarding Azazel and his cheating, I was on my sabbatical from Renegade during that period and couldn't give less of a shit
//4.0 is out, whatever he did in the past is irrelevant. He can't cheat anymore
///Being obsessive over some nerd cheating in a game is a waste of time
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Re: jarhead [message #454912 is a reply to message #454900] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 10:51 |
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MUDKIPS
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Azazel wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 09:27 |
MUDKIPS wrote on Tue, 13 September 2011 15:02 | shut up azazel, you're just sucking up. having been on the ns mod team yourself you should know better than most people what kind of a retard jarhead is.
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No.
He was harrassing people and forcerg'ing everybody who headshotted him more than once. When I called him out on it, and most of the staff agreed, he got mad at me.
Azazel, honestly, what are you still doing in the ren community? There can't be much gain for you, other than being constantly reminded what kind of a brainless faggot you are.
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Re: jarhead [message #454921 is a reply to message #454914] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 12:31 |
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MUDKIPS
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Azazel wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 10:59 |
MUDKIPS wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 10:51 |
Azazel, honestly, what are you still doing in the ren community
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Annoying you, it seems.
I personally think every time you're reminded of how well n00bstories is doing, it hits a nerve.
Jarhead probably wont even read this thread anyways.
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lol, you're still in this whole feud thing, all of us have moved on man I really don't care about ns player counts
I was just having a fun game in ns with my mate when jarhead jumped on me, when i told him i didn't care about him, and was just playing ren, he gave me a 24hr kick, and when my mate complained him too.
he deleted all my appeal threads and then banned me
He is fucking retarded.
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Re: jarhead [message #454922 is a reply to message #454907] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 12:32 |
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 10:06 |
/Also, regarding Azazel and his cheating, I was on my sabbatical from Renegade during that period and couldn't give less of a shit
//4.0 is out, whatever he did in the past is irrelevant. He can't cheat anymore
///Being obsessive over some nerd cheating in a game is a waste of time
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Hey AK, since you were away let me fill you in. You would have to have been on the forums to understand during that episode to see why people hate his guts now and bring it up over and over everytime he posts. It is nothing about him cheating but the way he acts (even now) as if it didn't happen and most importantly his refusal to apologize.
People don't have problems with him cheating or him being a cheater but of his absolutely dishonest attitude of pretending it didn't even happen. Here's a summary:
Azazel was on a massive crusade to burn those who he thought was cheating (while being a mod at NS). At the height of his hypocritical cheating, he created this thread demanding the forum ban of 0x90. In it, he argued persistently for the ban of cheaters not just in-game but also on respective gaming forums. By his campaign of lies, he successfully created an image of "angelic purity" around himself.
Then each and every one of us got the big bang shocker when Tiesto announced on July 17, 2010 how exactly Azazel was giving Ted Haggard stiff hard competition for the "Mr. Hypocrite of the Universe" award while he was on his crusade against cheaters. Everyone blasted him left and right and after getting over my initial shock and disappointment, was the first one to suggest we all forgive him after he does the decent thing and offers an apology.
Now here's the part that is totally relevant to why people keep bringing this up: Azazel disappeared! His last post before his fleeing was on July 16, 2010 (a day before we all heard from Tiesto of his cheating). But before that he gave us two more insightful lessons into his character in two seperate incidents:
He downright lied with the lamest excuse to his cheating instead of admitting it.
And a few days later in another incident tried to evade the ban and offered yet another pathetic excuse.
You have got to read these as we did as it happened to see the exact nature of such a abhorrent trainwreck of the standards of conduct he holds himself to. Tells a lot about him and yet I still did think one short apology would wipe all that away like I still do.
And that was the end of Azazel for one whole year. The guy who was on a anti-cheater crusade that regularly signed in and posted each day and was on the forums 24/7 vanished once everyone heard of his hypocrisy. It was a humiliating exit.
After nearly a year he returns on July 1 this year (no doubt he was reading up on the forums all along) to refute rumours that he had returned. And since then had used that thread to regain a foothold back on the forums to restart posting while we have yet to hear an apology. And since then had been posting around, chasing opportunities with supporting/allying himself with those he feels he need to rebuild his Renecredibility with most recently sticking up to Crimson and Jarhead (the same people he was backstabbing being a cheating mod in the first place). A child can understand the psychological game he is playing and the vast majority of Reneplayers who are honest by nature here at RF are offended by this behaviour of this frauding entity. It has nothing to do with triggerbot, patch 4.0, or like you said "being obsessive over some nerd cheating in a game" but the repugnant nature of his character that pisses the average honest person off each time he posts.
So it is not surprising in the least when people bring up something "old" whenever he posts because those things will remain new as long as he pretends it never happened like he is doing now. He says he is mature now but we have yet to hear an apology. That will go a long way to restore credibility. People aren't stupid; simply popping back in after a long self-inflicted exit, starting to post, sticking up for those he let down in the past and slowly trying to get back Renecredits and work on that unban request (which is sure to follow) seems downright criminal. So it's not surprising when people shit on him whenever he posts. A lot of folks will agree with all this.
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Re: jarhead [message #454928 is a reply to message #454907] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 14:00 |
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Prulez
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[quote title=Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 19:06]So because someone says he's bad, you just won't talk to him? That's kind of shitty to be honest with you. There are plenty of mis-characterizations in this community, you should take the time to talk to people that are being slandered. That way, if they really are as bad as everyone said they were, you'll know for sure./quote]
Let me put it differently:
1) I am in no way involved with NS and I don't intend to either because I've got my own servers (Jelly) to look after, so even if this thread wasn't around, I wouldn't even remotely care about this person at all.
2) I am hearing shit from multiple people, not just one person. I know that if one person complains, it could very well be a biased story, but if I hear like 10+ people complain about Jarhead and his actions (All of which are seperate stories); I know enough.
nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 | Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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Re: jarhead [message #454931 is a reply to message #454451] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 14:30 |
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Well if anything you say Azazel is indeed true... then a lot has drastically changed...
When I was a mod at NS, long before your sorry ass came about, Jarhead didn't do shit but check for RG players on IRC and then !forcerg the person if they were not using it.
Face it, NS was the last community to swear by that piece of shit program... Yea I am sure it was useful before 0x90 broke though it like a cheap condom... but NS held on to it for way way too long after that.
Jarhead only ever seemed to abuse his powers, and then really only posted on the forums to tell people to deal with it.
I don't think I ever recall him catching anyone actually cheating. While the rest of the mods were cross checking IP's, gathering real evidence, and actually enforcing rules, he just got rid of people who killed him.
He played quite a bit in the server, but it was never really pleasant always bitching about something. He was there in the server and on the forums, but it was worthless to be honest.
I honestly wonder looking back now if he even knew how to use IRC other than the !rg commands.
I would think most of the old NS mods could honestly agree with the above. Not that any of them are trustworthy... especially against your word.
Edit: Also we don't call you an ass kisser/cock sucker because we are mad you are telling the truth... it is because we think you are a giant fucktard for thinking that defending all things NS will somehow redeem you of your prior stupidity.
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Re: jarhead [message #454941 is a reply to message #454931] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 16:41 |
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Chew wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 14:30 | Well if anything you say Azazel is indeed true... then a lot has drastically changed...
When I was a mod at NS, long before your sorry ass came about, Jarhead didn't do shit but check for RG players on IRC and then !forcerg the person if they were not using it.
Face it, NS was the last community to swear by that piece of shit program... Yea I am sure it was useful before 0x90 broke though it like a cheap condom... but NS held on to it for way way too long after that.
Jarhead only ever seemed to abuse his powers, and then really only posted on the forums to tell people to deal with it.
I don't think I ever recall him catching anyone actually cheating. While the rest of the mods were cross checking IP's, gathering real evidence, and actually enforcing rules, he just got rid of people who killed him.
He played quite a bit in the server, but it was never really pleasant always bitching about something. He was there in the server and on the forums, but it was worthless to be honest.
I honestly wonder looking back now if he even knew how to use IRC other than the !rg commands.
I would think most of the old NS mods could honestly agree with the above. Not that any of them are trustworthy... especially against your word.
Edit: Also we don't call you an ass kisser/cock sucker because we are mad you are telling the truth... it is because we think you are a giant fucktard for thinking that defending all things NS will somehow redeem you of your prior stupidity.
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you're forgetting the bit where he was harassing players with PMs if they killed him too often (and had RG), as well as fellow mods (ilonaus and me, and i think he might have PMd grant too)
And he banned several people without a shred of evidence, most notably drasticdr and mike.
somehow i haven't seen any of this addressed. Is harassing people who barely ever talk, in PM, part of Jarhead's method of not taking shit from idiots? What about threatening mods?
Another comically idiotic thing he once did was accuse ilonaus in public chat once, on walls. Jarhead (who seriously IS a shit sniper) kept getting raped on the side, because he only had his head sticking out and it was piss easy to headshot him. When ilo got him like 5 times in a row, he started insulting him with stuff like "you're bullshit and everybody knows it" in F2. Best admin ever right?
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Re: jarhead [message #454952 is a reply to message #454857] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 18:01 |
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liquidv2 wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 22:12 |
i don't trust you, and the fact that crimson does says a lot about her as a person
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What the FUCK makes you think I trust Azazel??????!?!
I'm the bawss.
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Re: jarhead [message #454954 is a reply to message #454900] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 18:10 |
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Azazel wrote on Sat, 17 September 2011 09:27 |
Crimson wrote on Fri, 16 September 2011 15:57 | Jarhead is not a personal friend of mine.
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I thought he went to n00bparty - which is why I assumed he was a personal friend, it seems I was mistaken, my apologies.
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No, The Pits had a get-together in LA hosted by Patonite one year in which like 8 of us showed up from The Pits community, and then the following year like 25-30 people showed up including Jarhead and his son I believe. I met him then and have not seen him since. The following year the gathering was canceled at the last minute due to family medical issues, then the year after that, I started hosting n00bparty... and this year was year 5 of that.
When someone gets banned from a server, any server, they come here or go on other forums and whine like little children. And somehow we're regarding these idiots opinions as worth ANYTHING?! Sounds pretty thick-skulled to me.
You guys have no idea how many hours he puts into playing and helping out with the site. If the price I have to pay for the hours of awesome and helpful work is couple of random tards talking shit... it's a price I'm willing to pay. They were bound to get pissed off one way or another, Jarhead just got to be the lucky one because, wait for it... he watches the server a fucking LOT of the time. He's retired and Renegade happens to be one of the many things he does for fun in his earned reward for his service and career.
Now I'm locking this thread because this man does NOT deserve to be slandered this way. Period.
I'm the bawss.
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