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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45033] |
Wed, 03 September 2003 14:51   |
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General Havoc
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Birmingham, England, Unit...
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It reads the file name more than likely and not the actual CRC (skins anyway) of the file. I don't know much about RenGuard as the information on how it works is not public. If you think about it. Stealth_Effect.dds (I think that is the SBH skin file if it's the same as the Stank) can't be renemed as it wouldn't work.
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45101] |
Wed, 03 September 2003 17:00 |
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smwScott
Messages: 225
Registered: February 2003
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I don't think you should ban skins. I personally don't use that sniper skin but I can't see where it would give you any kind of relevant advantage. I have a replacement pistol model, a reticle skin, and maybe a few other things. I don't wanna get kicked/banned from good servers and then have to go to their forums or whatever and bitch about it in order to get unbanned, then have to remove the skins which I happen to like so it doesn't happen again.
As it stands now cheaters are quickly identified and banned, and it doesn't affect me much. This however could. Sometimes the cure can be worse than the disease, I think you guys should be very careful of that.
-smwScott
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45255] |
Thu, 04 September 2003 12:16 |
Ferhago
Messages: 1014
Registered: March 2003
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I think skins shouldnt be included in renguard at all. Its getting pretty easy to get rid of cheaters. You see one you kick him. But with renguard and many people without their favorite skins just doesnt seem right.
And having to get our skins "Approved" is just bullshit. Who cares if something is more visible if you suck it doesnt help you. There could be a giant fucking sign over everyones head in neon colors but they can still kick your ass if there better than you
I mean its insane some of the stuff im hearing, Banning modified sounds? How the fuck is a sound gonna give you an advantage!?
Seriously leave it to just the head and body models and objects ddb. Let us have our gun models and skins and everything else.
I think renguard itself is gonna kill renegade if its gonna strip the ability to customize the game.
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45257] |
Thu, 04 September 2003 12:23 |
KIRBY098
Messages: 1546
Registered: February 2003
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The reason banning those mods is even being discussed, is because they are portals to exploit getting around RenGaurd. And renegades' addictiveness isn't in it's skins.
It's in the multifaceted gameplay, where you can go rambo, or team, and still make a huge difference either way.
I understand your trepidation, but what's better?
Renegade ruined with skins
Renegade with clean gameplay, and the same old skins
I pick the latter. How do you ever have time to look at charachters and background anyway? I am always focused solely on victory, and taking out that tank, or building.
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45259] |
Thu, 04 September 2003 12:30 |
Ferhago
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Registered: March 2003
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Well im not. I keep my details to their highest and enjoy looking at the graphics.
And skins havent ruined renegade and never will. Skins dont provide any real advantage. They just make your game look nice or personalize it if you made it yourself, That and it gives losers something to bitch about if they get their asses kicked.
No one gave a second thought about skins until all this cheating stuff came up. Now its ban everything that gives you an advantage or even looks like it gives you an advantage or maybe I just dont like this person so he must be cheating take away all his skins
And one of the major things that got me hooked on renegade is its customizability.
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45262] |
Thu, 04 September 2003 12:54 |
KIRBY098
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Registered: February 2003
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I do understand what you are saying, but if Renegade is destroyed by cheating, then you might as well look at all your mods in Multiplayer Practice.
It is better to take something good away from the whole, to save the whole from extinction.
Besides, there has also been a lot of talk about allowing customizations AND instituing rengaurd.
They aren't ogres.
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45328] |
Thu, 04 September 2003 15:34 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7431
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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We're NOT trying to ruin the game. We already have a significantly large database of approved skins and files. I believe we are over the 1000 mark now.
I'm the bawss.
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| Question About RenGuard..... [message #45347] |
Thu, 04 September 2003 16:06 |
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wow, thats a huge number to have to look thrugh, congrats! and good luck on ne more u get!
"you cant demand respect, you have to earn it." -- Dufis791 (me)
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