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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:09


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Well said indeed, it shows the level of Spoony's debating skills.

i didn't make that you idiot... and don't start on our relative debating skills. i'm not the one who owes the entire renegade community, the rest of TT, and me personally, the enormous apology you owe.

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Btw, Spoony, if you're not interested in TT, or thinking it takes too long, then quiting isn't a shame, really. I mean, It's been quite a while since it was announced and progress is slow indeed. I think everyone can understand when you decide to abandon the team because you're unhappy with the (lack of?) progress.

that's better. it's better than lying to everybody by saying the lack of progress is directly spoony's fault, isn't it? i'm not gonna get tired of saying this, by the way; and evidently you're not gonna get tired of dodging it.

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But don't start accusing me of doing fuck all, I might not do a lot compared to coding gods like StealthEye, Shaderhawk or JonWil, but I do my bits. I worked on the website, set up the wiki and did some bits of project management. The latter wasn't all to successful in itself, but I think it did help to get things moving again. Hmm, I even pay for TT, so me doing fuckall, certainly not.

like i said, how predictable you'd totally dodge what i said, and respond to accusations i didn't even make. the fact you keep dodging the important two points i raised prove to everybody what i've been saying about you all along; you're willing to say absolutely anything if you think it'll score you a point, no matter how hideously offensive and dishonest it might be, and you're completely incapable of facing up to this kind of shit when you try it and get caught.


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Spoony wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 00:17

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:09


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Well said indeed, it shows the level of Spoony's debating skills.

i didn't make that you idiot... and don't start on our relative debating skills. i'm not the one who owes the entire renegade community, the rest of TT, and me personally, the enormous apology you owe.


You posted it didn't you? The only one I *might* owe an apology would be you, for saying that I trust 0x90 more than you. I have not done anything to beshame the TT team or Renegade as a whole.
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Btw, Spoony, if you're not interested in TT, or thinking it takes too long, then quiting isn't a shame, really. I mean, It's been quite a while since it was announced and progress is slow indeed. I think everyone can understand when you decide to abandon the team because you're unhappy with the (lack of?) progress.

that's better. it's better than lying to everybody by saying the lack of progress is directly spoony's fault, isn't it? i'm not gonna get tired of saying this, by the way; and evidently you're not gonna get tired of dodging it.


Well, remind me where I said that then I think it would probably be more along the lines of you not actually helping the team finish faster, if not slowing it down. That does not mean you are delaying a release, it only says that you're not actively doing anything to get TT released sooner.
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But don't start accusing me of doing fuck all, I might not do a lot compared to coding gods like StealthEye, Shaderhawk or JonWil, but I do my bits. I worked on the website, set up the wiki and did some bits of project management. The latter wasn't all to successful in itself, but I think it did help to get things moving again. Hmm, I even pay for TT, so me doing fuckall, certainly not.

like i said, how predictable you'd totally dodge what i said, and respond to accusations i didn't even make.

You're dodging now, so please, as I answered your points in this post, return the favour.


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Re: New maps? [message #451609 is a reply to message #451607] Sun, 14 August 2011 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:23

You posted it didn't you?

no...

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The only one I *might* owe an apology would be you, for saying that I trust 0x90 more than you.

wow, you're starting to realise what an astonishing thing that was to say. hooray

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Well, remind me where I said that then I think it would probably be more along the lines of you not actually helping the team finish faster, if not slowing it down. That does not mean you are delaying a release, it only says that you're not actively doing anything to get TT released sooner.

oh, you finally answer such a crucially important point which i've said several times and all you can do is pretend you don't remember it?

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and respond to accusations i didn't even make.

You're dodging now, so please, as I answered your points in this post, return the favour.

dude, don't lie again. it makes your position even worse. nobody seems to've told you this, i'm telling you now and maybe you'll thank me for it later. you dodged what i said, i did not dodge what you said, you liar.


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Re: New maps? [message #451610 is a reply to message #451609] Sun, 14 August 2011 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 00:29

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:23

You posted it didn't you?

no...

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The only one I *might* owe an apology would be you, for saying that I trust 0x90 more than you.

wow, you're starting to realise what an astonishing thing that was to say. hooray


No, I still stand by that, don't worry. You're still not doing anything to do anything that might help improving our relation, quite the opposite really.
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Well, remind me where I said that then I think it would probably be more along the lines of you not actually helping the team finish faster, if not slowing it down. That does not mean you are delaying a release, it only says that you're not actively doing anything to get TT released sooner.

oh, you finally answer such a crucially important point which i've said several times and all you can do is pretend you don't remember it?


No, I don't believe you. I trust you to exactly phrase things like you see fit. In tise case, I already told you how I was likely to have phrased it myself. If it's different then I'm generally interested when and where I wrote that.
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and respond to accusations i didn't even make.

You're dodging now, so please, as I answered your points in this post, return the favour.

dude, don't lie again. it makes your position even worse. nobody seems to've told you this, i'm telling you now and maybe you'll thank me for it later. you dodged what i said, i did not dodge what you said, you liar.

You're saying that I lie, ok, that's a serious accusation. Now, where did I lie then?

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You still haven't replied to the statement that I do fuck all for TT.


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Re: New maps? [message #451614 is a reply to message #451609] Sun, 14 August 2011 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony feels the needs to call everyone a liar right off the start of an argument, in attempt to nullify anything they say to oppose him. He's been doing it for years. EWD obviously has some social issues where he doesn't understand that some of the things he says are just stupid. In the end you have an annoying argument about nothing.

The one thing you both have in common is taking so much pride and credit for the *rather small* accomplishments you have done for Renegade. For proof, read the quote of this post below.

Continue.

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Re: New maps? [message #451615 is a reply to message #451610] Sun, 14 August 2011 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:39

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The only one I *might* owe an apology would be you, for saying that I trust 0x90 more than you.

wow, you're starting to realise what an astonishing thing that was to say. hooray


No, I still stand by that, don't worry. You're still not doing anything to do anything that might help improving our relation, quite the opposite really.

there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

i would have thought you would take the opportunity to say that your earlier statements about trusting and respecting 0x90 more than spoony were simply a moment of complete madness, and now you've come back to your senses. sadly not. perhaps i should remind everybody that after you said this, 0x90 released more shit to damage this game, after promising you he wouldn't, exactly as i told you he would. this didn't budge your opinion of either him or me an inch, did it? which seems to reinforce my assertions about how unbelievably bad your judgement is. or maybe you simply don't care what he's done so long as he doesn't actually say the nasty things about you i've said, eh? that seems to be the case, so never mind how much damage he's done to the game, never mind how many times he's lied to you and hurt the community, never mind how much good i've done and my consistent honesty... you don't give a shit about any of this. i'm mean to you (i.e. telling you what you fucking need to hear) whereas he pretends he's friend and then stabs the renegade community again like i told you he would. never mind that. i say stuff on a forum you don't like (though it turns out to be both true and crucial), and that's all you need to do to be worse than 0x90, in EWD's howling wilderness of a mind.

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No, I don't believe you. I trust you to exactly phrase things like you see fit. In tise case, I already told you how I was likely to have phrased it myself. If it's different then I'm generally interested when and where I wrote that.

i guess people will just have to decide which one of us they trust more. or if your memory needs refreshing, i could remind you that after you said it publicly, you said in the TT private forum that the reason you were lying in public was to get on 0x90's good side. quite a startling thing to admit, quite an odd goal, and if the price of achieving it is publicly slandering a TT colleague by flat-out lying to everybody, guess you thought it was a price worth paying.

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You're saying that I lie, ok, that's a serious accusation. Now, where did I lie then?

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You still haven't replied to the statement that I do fuck all for TT.

because you were totally changing the subject, i never said that in the first place you idiot


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Re: New maps? [message #451617 is a reply to message #451614] Sun, 14 August 2011 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HaTe wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 00:41

Spoony feels the needs to call everyone a liar right off the start of an argument, in attempt to nullify anything they say to oppose him. He's been doing it for years. EWD obviously has some social issues where he doesn't understand that some of the things he says are just stupid. In the end you have an annoying argument about nothing.

The one thing you both have in common is taking so much pride and credit for the *rather small* accomplishments you have done for Renegade. For proof, read the quote of this post below.

Continue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk

I do not need to put up lot of fuzz on what I do for Renegade, but I do not accept it when people say that I have don't nothing good for Renegade, or that my loyalty is with 0x90. That's simply a lie. If there's anyone that I'm truly loyal to in the Renegade community it's StealtEye, BlackIntel and the TT-coders.

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010 17:17

Spoony wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010 15:44

so you're not put off at all by the prospect of making a deal with the one person who's done the very most damage to renegade (and who's already broken these kind of deals), you're very eager to publicly attack your TT colleagues if it'll make him feel better... none of that presents a problem to you... but when you're pressed to let TT know exactly what's going on between you and 0x90, you abandon the project?

I never said I'd abandon the project, I'm just saying that this isn't worth my time. I am trying hard to maintain a communicative channel with 0x90 and all you want is to frame me so it seems. If you can't trust me then I will not ask any Renegade or *cheat name removed*questions to 0x90 again.
Also, I have no intentions spreading private chat of anyone to persons I don't trust.

A quote from an ancient topic, where I was prepared to not chat with 0x90 any more because of Spoony's trust issues. The final outcome was that I did however had some tech-chat with 0x90.

jonwil wrote on Thu, 27 May 2010 16:31

This effort by EvilWhiteDragon is a chance to get some unprecedented technical information on the inner workings of the largest and most well known renegade cheat program.

I for one support it wholeheartedly and think EWD should proceed.
If we can get this info (and then modify 4.0 as necessary based on what we get) we can make it even harder for cheaters like 0x90 to do their work.

Passing this up just because EWD may have had "secret" conversations with 0x90 (and refuses to disclose the full content of those conversations) would be a bad idea.



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EWD: Does *cheat name removed*patch renegade code segment in any way? If so, what addresses?
What Renegade data variables or functions does *cheat name removed*call?
How is the radar hack implemented?
How is fly mode implemented?

0x90: oh, cuttin to the chase, arent you? Wink
0x90: *cheat name removes* lol, really?
0x90: is it on the ren forums actually?
0x90: in the "private" sections

EWD: yes it indeed

0x90: ok ill try to give some quick answers but ill copy those questions and write some more detailed answers when i get the time, ok?

EWD: ok

0x90: thing is, i didnt look into the *cheat name removed*code for like 3 months now, so for the quick answers, i can just "guess" on some parts Razz

EWD: ok

0x90: i think *cheat name removed*does patch code segments but for most stuff i doesnt have to
0x90: the main magic is done in the d3d hook
0x90: and for that its enough to patch the **** or **** of d3d, or simply put the d3d dll in the same dir
0x90: you name the method... Wink

EWD: bbl (food)

0x90: im mostly calling functions in renegade and scripts dll and for that you wont need any code patches
0x90: aaah, im jealous Razz

EWD: however, please send in your short answers Razz

0x90: k, bon appetit Razz
0x90: for the renegade "data variables and functions"... i would have to re-check but im using some stuff which is freely accessible and documented v ia scripts.dll by jonwil
0x90: like getting all the players and their health, shield, position etc
0x90: *cheat name removed*is looping over the "****" **** (or something.. like i said i havent looked into the code for a while)
0x90: for the aimbot thing im getting the nearest player... and then the position of the chosen "bone" via some scripts function (something like **** ..... Razz however it returns a Vector3)
0x90: and then im calling the **** something from scripts to aim at this **** position
0x90: radar hack is either just setting the **** (detected looong time) or patching some code which checks for that etc etc
0x90: you name the method
0x90: my last approaches were about using the hud-stuff in the shaders code to draw the radar (evtl with the fancy map overlay stuff and so on)
0x90: you can implement the radar hack there too
0x90: "flymode" is like the old spectator thing... spectator is still implemented too... but flymode is like not having a spectator-target so you can move freely
0x90: ****
0x90: you can then change this "fly-position" with the movement keys freely... nothing special... the vector math for the movement is actually quite fucked up like you can easily notice
0x90: because you have to calc the movement on your own by just knowing the "Facing" and if youre looking up or down... so like reprogramming the whole 3d-movement logic
0x90: took me some time since this isnt exactly "my world" Razz
0x90: i mean 3d programming
0x90: but i wouldnt try to counteract this details... all of this could easily be done otherwise and stuff.. you know what i mean? Razz
0x90: would be cat-and-mouse again then.... just try to disallow any unknown/unsafe external dll's or any unknown code at all

EWD: that's easier sad than done Razz

0x90: haha "sad"
0x90: yeah Razz
0x90: its indeed sad Wink

EWD: said :+

0x90: i know i know.. but it was funny somehow Wink

EWD: true

0x90: but did you read what i wrote? is i somehow helpful for now?

EWD: idk, that's up to jonwil to determine
EWD: I personally guess we could've guessed most of this but ok Razz

0x90: sure
0x90: like i said Wink
0x90: *cheat name removed*is no mystery Razz
0x90: actually mostly quite errrr
0x90: lame? dilletant?
0x90: Razz

EWD: lame is something most if not all renegadeplayers know

0x90: mhh.. saying?
0x90: dont like all ren players know rgh?
0x90: or are you talking about the "mechanics"
0x90: like making it by themselfes?

EWD: I mean rgh

0x90: then i dont get it Wink
0x90: why is it lame then?

EWD: because cheating is lame

0x90: tru dat! Wink


Edit: and for the rest: I'm done with this discussion Spoony. If any one else has questions I'll answer them, otherwise I'll just let the discussion die out.


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I really doubt that the stuff EWD has done for Renegade is "small".

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iRANian wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 01:02

I really doubt that the stuff EWD has done for Renegade is "small".

Certainly it's nowhere near JonWil, ShaderHawk or StealthEye have done...


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nvm, I didn't see that the map was already added.

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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:58

A quote from an ancient topic

yes. i know the one you mean, and i think you'd better read the whole thing.

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Edit: and for the rest: I'm done with this discussion Spoony. If any one else has questions I'll answer them, otherwise I'll just let the discussion die out.

yes, i said some time ago you wouldn't have the balls to apologise to me for what you did, or to the community for lying to them about something so important, or to TT for trying to deceive them in the public forum.


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Compared to what the coders for Renegade have done for Renegade's gameplay and the future of Renegade, I'd classify his accomplishments as small. Having said that though, I'm not trying to make it seem like I've done anything much for Renegade neither. The only thing i've done is been a moderator and a regular player since release, which is sometimes more important than anything. If I were the leader of a Renegade community, I'd much rather have a loyal group of regular players than anything. That's why Renegade is still somewhat alive and successful. The scripters/coders are willing to keep up the work they do for the people who still play the game. It's a balance thing. All I'm saying is that you can have 100 mods to catch cheaters on a server, but they won't do nearly as much good as an advanced anti-cheat scripts does. Which is why, in my personal opinion, they have done more than anyone to keep Renegade up and running. It's why I added the * * around small - it's important and everything, and the game needs people like EWD, but his "achievements" are small compared to that of several others. They don't get the credit they deserve, meanwhile others are trying to seem like they deserve more credit, when they don't.

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Spoony wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 01:12

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:58

A quote from an ancient topic

yes. i know the one you mean, and i think you'd better read the whole thing.

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Edit: and for the rest: I'm done with this discussion Spoony. If any one else has questions I'll answer them, otherwise I'll just let the discussion die out.

yes, i said some time ago you wouldn't have the balls to apologise to me for what you did, or to the community for lying to them about something so important, or to TT for trying to deceive them in the public forum.

You just can't read now can you? If I feel that an apology is in order I don't mind making it. It just isn't. Or should I make excuses how I found out about the pointbug or though of the concept for BIATCH? I mean, I'm a cheater, right?

So hereby I apologize to the cheating community for making their doings a lot harder, and I apologize to the people that prefer to shoot with ramjets at harvesters and mammoth tanks, because I ruined their gameplay. Sarcasm

Just for me personally, where did I lie? Because I still have no idea what you're talking about? If you don't want to make a fuzz out of it that's fine by me as well, you can just PM it to me. Add the deceive thing as well while you're at it.


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R315r4z0r: Think C&C_Death_Pass is already included in that pack, it's in my Data folder and I can't remember ever installing it separately.

It's a nice looking map and the unorthodox layout really interests me in playing it on a big server. Big Ups


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Yeah, you're right. I guess my eyes must of skimmed over it when I was looking through the list.
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Any plans for a new Renegade map?

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Not really. I'm working as a mapper for Reborn atm. My current project is a remake of City flying. You can see some WIP screenshots of it in their latest update here:
http://www.cncreborn.eu/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4171
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Damn, that looks nice.

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Re: New maps? [message #451669 is a reply to message #451415] Mon, 15 August 2011 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New maps? [message #451679 is a reply to message #451415] Mon, 15 August 2011 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New maps? [message #451684 is a reply to message #451679] Mon, 15 August 2011 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a000clown wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 02:53

TT team's harmony must bring so much confidence to the greater renegade community.

If it helps, Spoony hasn't posted in the private forums any time recent...


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Re: New maps? [message #451689 is a reply to message #451415] Tue, 16 August 2011 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it helps, please don't screw up topics with your arguments. Go discuss it somewhere private.

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Re: New maps? [message #451693 is a reply to message #451684] Tue, 16 August 2011 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 20:25

a000clown wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 02:53

TT team's harmony must bring so much confidence to the greater renegade community.

If it helps, Spoony hasn't posted in the private forums any time recent...

wow, you're trying that again? seriously? after you lie to the community by saying spoony is personally responsible for the delays of the TT patch release? something you still haven't apologised for, either to me or the general renegade community?

cos that is actually quite a big deal, y'know. the renegade community has been kept waiting quite a while. we've heard that it's nearly ready for years. for you to say this delay is all my fault is fucking disgraceful and you should apologise for it. and let's remind ourselves why you said it, why you felt the need to attack a TT colleague by means of such a ridiculous and offensive lie... it was because you wanted revenge because i was being mean to your friend, 0x90.

on the subject of activity, i'm actually following what's happening and i post when i need to. of the TT team, you can't say i'm neglecting my responsibilities, there was never a point when i did; and the fact you keep trying this (even after you get caught the first time) just shows what a dishonest, unprofessional little bitch you are; shows you'll say absolutely anything to try to score a point in an argument.

on the subject of what else you need to apologise for, how about when you said the reason you respected 0x90 more than me was because clanwars was dead? thanks to undetectable cheats? thanks to 0x90? seriously, were you actually trying to think of the most sickeningly offensive thing you could possibly say? you respect the one person who's done the most harm to this game more than the person who spent years maintaining the clan ladder which eventually (and predictably) died thanks to the cheats made by your respected and trusted friend 0x90? i expect you don't think you owe an apology for that either, but you really fucking do. it's also a perfect example of how truly fucked up you are.


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Re: New maps? [message #451698 is a reply to message #451693] Tue, 16 August 2011 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 14:45

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 20:25

a000clown wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 02:53

TT team's harmony must bring so much confidence to the greater renegade community.

If it helps, Spoony hasn't posted in the private forums any time recent...

wow, you're trying that again? seriously? after you lie to the community by saying spoony is personally responsible for the delays of the TT patch release? something you still haven't apologised for, either to me or the general renegade community?

cos that is actually quite a big deal, y'know. the renegade community has been kept waiting quite a while. we've heard that it's nearly ready for years. for you to say this delay is all my fault is fucking disgraceful and you should apologise for it. and let's remind ourselves why you said it, why you felt the need to attack a TT colleague by means of such a ridiculous and offensive lie... it was because you wanted revenge because i was being mean to your friend, 0x90.

on the subject of activity, i'm actually following what's happening and i post when i need to. of the TT team, you can't say i'm neglecting my responsibilities, there was never a point when i did; and the fact you keep trying this (even after you get caught the first time) just shows what a dishonest, unprofessional little bitch you are; shows you'll say absolutely anything to try to score a point in an argument.

on the subject of what else you need to apologise for, how about when you said the reason you respected 0x90 more than me was because clanwars was dead? thanks to undetectable cheats? thanks to 0x90? seriously, were you actually trying to think of the most sickeningly offensive thing you could possibly say? you respect the one person who's done the most harm to this game more than the person who spent years maintaining the clan ladder which eventually (and predictably) died thanks to the cheats made by your respected and trusted friend 0x90? i expect you don't think you owe an apology for that either, but you really fucking do. it's also a perfect example of how truly fucked up you are.

I'm only stating that there is no internal discussion ongoing which could delay TT, simply because we're not at all posting there together. Now explain how you not posting there should delay TT? There are no balance issues ATM, which is your job description, so it's not weird that you're not posting there, right?
Since I'm trying to help with PR and some project management, it's also not weird that I am posting there, right?

For the rest of your reply I refer to my previous posts, as you just keep repeating yourself without stating anything new, like where I lied and how I lied.

Edit: to help you not to mis the specific post I meant, here it is:
EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 01:19

Spoony wrote on Mon, 15 August 2011 01:12

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 15:58

A quote from an ancient topic

yes. i know the one you mean, and i think you'd better read the whole thing.

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Edit: and for the rest: I'm done with this discussion Spoony. If any one else has questions I'll answer them, otherwise I'll just let the discussion die out.

yes, i said some time ago you wouldn't have the balls to apologise to me for what you did, or to the community for lying to them about something so important, or to TT for trying to deceive them in the public forum.

You just can't read now can you? If I feel that an apology is in order I don't mind making it. It just isn't. Or should I make excuses how I found out about the pointbug or though of the concept for BIATCH? I mean, I'm a cheater, right?

So hereby I apologize to the cheating community for making their doings a lot harder, and I apologize to the people that prefer to shoot with ramjets at harvesters and mammoth tanks, because I ruined their gameplay. Sarcasm

Just for me personally, where did I lie? Because I still have no idea what you're talking about? If you don't want to make a fuzz out of it that's fine by me as well, you can just PM it to me. Add the deceive thing as well while you're at it.



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Re: New maps? [message #451700 is a reply to message #451698] Tue, 16 August 2011 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 16 August 2011 06:41

I'm only stating that there is no internal discussion ongoing which could delay TT, simply because we're not at all posting there together. Now explain how you not posting there should delay TT? There are no balance issues ATM, which is your job description, so it's not weird that you're not posting there, right?
Since I'm trying to help with PR and some project management, it's also not weird that I am posting there, right?

good to see you're giving that one up.

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For the rest of your reply I refer to my previous posts, as you just keep repeating yourself without stating anything new, like where I lied and how I lied.

firstly, this is new.
on the subject of what else you need to apologise for, how about when you said the reason you respected 0x90 more than me was because clanwars was dead? thanks to undetectable cheats? thanks to 0x90? seriously, were you actually trying to think of the most sickeningly offensive thing you could possibly say? you respect the one person who's done the most harm to this game more than the person who spent years maintaining the clan ladder which eventually (and predictably) died thanks to the cheats made by your respected and trusted friend 0x90? i expect you don't think you owe an apology for that either, but you really fucking do. it's also a perfect example of how truly fucked up you are.

at least, it's new in this thread. i've said all this to you before as well, i was hoping you'd understand what an UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing it was you did there, though i did not expect you to apologise for it. however, the fact remains that you unquestionably ought to, and it's significant that you won't... especially after you said this:
"If I feel that an apology is in order I don't mind making it. It just isn't."

...which either means you're lying (again) or you simply have absolutely zero respect for honesty, integrity, diligence, whether someone is attempting to do something important and constructive to the game or whether they are the one person above all who has done the game the most harm...

like i said before, this is the perfect example for anyone to see how truly fucked up you are

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Or should I make excuses how I found out about the pointbug or though of the concept for BIATCH? I mean, I'm a cheater, right?

So hereby I apologize to the cheating community for making their doings a lot harder, and I apologize to the people that prefer to shoot with ramjets at harvesters and mammoth tanks, because I ruined their gameplay. Sarcasm

changing the subject again, pretending i said stuff i didn't again... this is how you show everyone you aren't a liar?

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Just for me personally, where did I lie? Because I still have no idea what you're talking about? If you don't want to make a fuzz out of it that's fine by me as well, you can just PM it to me. Add the deceive thing as well while you're at it.

are you fucking retarded? you've been caught several times. you even said in the private forum that the reason you lied in public to attack me was to protect 0x90's feelings, remember? aside from the fact that i don't know how the hell you can take yourself seriously after admitting you did that, it also means you can't pretend you aren't a liar


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