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Everyone knows Uber Map Pack is only downloaded because of C&C_Death_Rally.mix right?
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: New maps? [message #451543 is a reply to message #451537] |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 01:54 |
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 10:23 |
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THE MAPS IS BAD
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genuinely good map worth downloading: Mesa2 (simply Mesa with the deadzones fixed - the bug that causes damage problems for tanks and rockets on the bridge/side paths)
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=411732&rid=20608
adds an enormous amount of strategic depth to the game just by fixing that bug
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But useless when TT comes out... as this is just a workaround for that bug...
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have a think about that and see if you can work out the 3 or 4 flaws in what you just said
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| Re: New maps? [message #451547 is a reply to message #451415] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 04:31 |
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I edited what I was originally going to say last night to NOT be nasty, Ack.
The last bit of it was: "sit down and shut the fuck up". Late night, so I don't recall all of it.
You don't pay for the hosting, you don't contribute(other than some fail maps which are better off being deleted). They only rape server counts when they do come up(and that's with making sure most people have them weeks in advance).
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: New maps? [message #451556 is a reply to message #451415] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 06:12 |
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People are far more likely to download the latest scripts than 0 of the servers use, when and if they come out of course
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| Re: New maps? [message #451561 is a reply to message #451547] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 07:40 |
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| shaitan wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 07:31 |
I edited what I was originally going to say last night to NOT be nasty, Ack.
The last bit of it was: "sit down and shut the fuck up". Late night, so I don't recall all of it.
You don't pay for the hosting, you don't contribute(other than some fail maps which are better off being deleted). They only rape server counts when they do come up(and that's with making sure most people have them weeks in advance).
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While we're comparing what people do and don't do around here, let's compare what I do to what you do:
I create work that's been part of the game since 2002.
I beta tested the game to help shape its direction.
I worked with WS for five months to get Glacier Flying into the 1.035 patch, after which I took bug reports from the community and attempted to fix the level with my lackluster knowledge of gMax for the 1.036 patch.
I constantly strive to improve the work I create so that others can benefit from my knowledge and enjoy themselves.
I've created a not-so-great tutorial for level design in Renegade that helped a lot of people get their first start on working on this engine.
You whine on forums and call people and things "fails". For the record, fail is a verb, and is something you do, like fail at English. The act of failing is "failure," and is a noun. Things can be failures, but they can't be "fails." That doesn't make sense. So when you miserable pieces of shit say "fail", what you really mean is "failure."
Great job, I'm humbled by your accomplishments. What's the point of "editing what I said not to be nasty" if you're going to post the general idea of it right after you said that? It's like telling someone "I'm just sayin'" right after you mention that you think they're an uneducated piece of shit. It doesn't dull the impact of your statement at all, you simply look like a pretentious asshole for doing it.
I've had a lot of fun playing the work I've made over the years. When The Pits was still around, I remember matches with at least 24 people on a consistent basis while running BasinTS, MetroTS, etc. It was a great time to play the game and see the kind of game-play that was originally envisioned for Renegade. I doubt you were around for it, though; it's a shame that you had to miss out. Then again, you seem like an asshole, so I doubt I'd want to play a match with you anyhow.
EvilWhiteDragon: Spoony is most likely implying that 4.0 isn't coming out anytime in the next decade.
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| Re: New maps? [message #451563 is a reply to message #451415] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 08:06 |
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Don't you have a n00stories server to harass? I am sure there's some people there who need you right about now. You accomplished making a few maps for Renegade, pat yourself on the back some more.
I don't make maps sparky, I just moderate servers, keep mods(admins too) in line, and generally make a place fun. I don't DO anything though.
Sorry for going off topic zunnie, I just dislike dumbasses.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
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rejects I despise.
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| Re: New maps? [message #451568 is a reply to message #451554] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 08:57 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 05:32 |
Why? Come up with arguments then? The targetting deadzones are properly fixed in TT. For people that are on stock ren or 3.4.4. it's just as easy to download TT as it is to download Mesa2.
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is it really? so any server owner and any player can download TT right now without any problems, no bugs on the side to put up with etc?
mesa2 is a complete success, as i predicted it would be. it's an enormous improvement over the original (indeed i consider it the original mesa, since the only change is the removal of a bug, just as the pointsfix can be reasonably considered to be the original renegade points system). it's surpassed expectations in the balance testing i arranged and proved itself excellent for both competitive and non-competitive play. the only problem is if you wanna use it in a server, players have to download it as if it were a fanmap. this takes barely a minute. you just download the map and you're away, you can play in a server which hosts it (any community match/tournament etc is absolutely bound to use mesa2 rather than mesa1)
when will your alternative TT solution be as good a solution as this, let alone better as you imply? i hope it's soon.
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| Re: New maps? [message #451574 is a reply to message #451561] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 10:34 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 16:40 |
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EvilWhiteDragon: Spoony is most likely implying that 4.0 isn't coming out anytime in the next decade.
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Which is odd since he of most people around here should know what progress is being made. If he doesn't then I suggest him to formally leave the TT team.
Edit: Ah, he is actually not even in the slightest interested in TT. That's funny. Apparently he calls it my or our TT, but not his TT. So Spoony, when can we expect the official resignation letter? I'm looking forward to it, considering your replies.
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| Re: New maps? [message #451593 is a reply to message #451574] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 14:20 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 10:34 |
Which is odd since he of most people around here should know what progress is being made. If he doesn't then I suggest him to formally leave the TT team.
Edit: Ah, he is actually not even in the slightest interested in TT. That's funny. Apparently he calls it my or our TT, but not his TT. So Spoony, when can we expect the official resignation letter? I'm looking forward to it, considering your replies.
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you're a fucking idiot. again.
as for when TT is coming out, two things. firstly i'm as disappointed as the general renegade community. we keep hearing about the progress, we keep hearing it's around the corner... we've been hearing it for years. secondly, and this is something you still haven't apologised for: have you forgotten that you told everybody that i was the reason TT was being delayed? seriously, what the fuck? if this is the kind of bald-faced, hideously offensive lie you tell in public when i'm able to see and refute it, i shudder to think what you say behind my back. seriously, EWD, why did you lie to the community like this? why did you think this was a good lie to tell?
as for "not even the slightest interested in TT", i actually want an anti-cheat more than you do, remember? everyone knows which side of the cheat vs anti-cheat battle i'm on. would that we knew the same about you, considering the fact you've gone on record as saying you trust and respect 0x90 more than me (you must regret saying this by now, surely? not only does this display a level of judgement somewhere below that of the average cheater, it's another thing for which you owe me an apology), considering what happened in the private TT forum a while ago - where i asked you to be open with the rest of TT just what shady dealings you're doing with 0x90 and you flat out refused to tell us.
btw, fuck you for making me do this to you in public, you lying, cheat-sympathising twat. but hey, this is the third time you've gone after a fellow TT colleague in public.
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 23:20 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 10:34 |
Which is odd since he of most people around here should know what progress is being made. If he doesn't then I suggest him to formally leave the TT team.
Edit: Ah, he is actually not even in the slightest interested in TT. That's funny. Apparently he calls it my or our TT, but not his TT. So Spoony, when can we expect the official resignation letter? I'm looking forward to it, considering your replies.
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you're a fucking idiot. again.
as for when TT is coming out, two things. firstly i'm as disappointed as the general renegade community. we keep hearing about the progress, we keep hearing it's around the corner... we've been hearing it for years. secondly, and this is something you still haven't apologised for: have you forgotten that you told everybody that i was the reason TT was being delayed? seriously, what the fuck? if this is the kind of bald-faced, hideously offensive lie you tell in public when i'm able to see and refute it, i shudder to think what you say behind my back. seriously, EWD, why did you lie to the community like this? why did you think this was a good lie to tell?
as for "not even the slightest interested in TT", i actually want an anti-cheat more than you do, remember? everyone knows which side of the cheat vs anti-cheat battle i'm on. would that we knew the same about you, considering the fact you've gone on record as saying you trust and respect 0x90 more than me (you must regret saying this by now, surely? not only does this display a level of judgement somewhere below that of the average cheater, it's another thing for which you owe me an apology), considering what happened in the private TT forum a while ago - where i asked you to be open with the rest of TT just what shady dealings you're doing with 0x90 and you flat out refused to tell us.
btw, fuck you for making me do this to you in public, you lying, cheat-sympathising twat. but hey, this is the third time you've gone after a fellow TT colleague in public.
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LOL for thinking that I don't want AC. Remeber I helped develop BIATCH? What did you do for AC?
But as said, you should know of all the very real progress is being made and that the dev's are currently doing the lasts bits on the checklists before a public beta. Oh, and now I said that, I might as well say that we, as in the TT team, which is not you, as you said earlier, tried to get 0x90 on the good side. That has been on going for quite a while, and Crimson even made certain agreements with 0x90. So who said that talking to a cheater can only end bad? Now it's time for you to STFU and try and make me or the TT-team look bad.
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| Re: New maps? [message #451603 is a reply to message #451598] |
Sun, 14 August 2011 15:03 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 14:49 |
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 23:20 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 10:34 |
Which is odd since he of most people around here should know what progress is being made. If he doesn't then I suggest him to formally leave the TT team.
Edit: Ah, he is actually not even in the slightest interested in TT. That's funny. Apparently he calls it my or our TT, but not his TT. So Spoony, when can we expect the official resignation letter? I'm looking forward to it, considering your replies.
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you're a fucking idiot. again.
as for when TT is coming out, two things. firstly i'm as disappointed as the general renegade community. we keep hearing about the progress, we keep hearing it's around the corner... we've been hearing it for years. secondly, and this is something you still haven't apologised for: have you forgotten that you told everybody that i was the reason TT was being delayed? seriously, what the fuck? if this is the kind of bald-faced, hideously offensive lie you tell in public when i'm able to see and refute it, i shudder to think what you say behind my back. seriously, EWD, why did you lie to the community like this? why did you think this was a good lie to tell?
as for "not even the slightest interested in TT", i actually want an anti-cheat more than you do, remember? everyone knows which side of the cheat vs anti-cheat battle i'm on. would that we knew the same about you, considering the fact you've gone on record as saying you trust and respect 0x90 more than me (you must regret saying this by now, surely? not only does this display a level of judgement somewhere below that of the average cheater, it's another thing for which you owe me an apology), considering what happened in the private TT forum a while ago - where i asked you to be open with the rest of TT just what shady dealings you're doing with 0x90 and you flat out refused to tell us.
btw, fuck you for making me do this to you in public, you lying, cheat-sympathising twat. but hey, this is the third time you've gone after a fellow TT colleague in public.
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LOL for thinking that I don't want AC. Remeber I helped develop BIATCH? What did you do for AC?
But as said, you should know of all the very real progress is being made and that the dev's are currently doing the lasts bits on the checklists before a public beta. Oh, and now I said that, I might as well say that we, as in the TT team, which is not you, as you said earlier, tried to get 0x90 on the good side. That has been on going for quite a while, and Crimson even made certain agreements with 0x90. So who said that talking to a cheater can only end bad? Now it's time for you to STFU and try and make me or the TT-team look bad.
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i think anyone can plainly see you're totally dodging what i said. i already know you aren't anywhere near enough of a man to face up to the two rather large apologies you owe me, and to the community for lying to them so blatantly about something so important, and for motives so wretched (attacking a TT colleague and sticking up for 0x90).
but hey, change the subject. how reassuring that you're telling everyone how close we are to the public beta. sadly this news comes from the guy who told everyone spoony was the reason the project is being delayed. i'm gonna ask you this again. i know you'll dodge it again like you just did, but that way everyone has another chance to see you dodge it. why did you, EvilWhiteDragon, LIE to the community by saying them that Spoony was holding up the project? Why did you think this was a good thing to say? What benefit did you think it would serve, considering the fact you knew it was a ridiculous, offensive, BARE-FACED LIE? and why haven't you apologised for it, both to me for saying something so offensively dishonest, and to the community for intentionally attempting to deceive them?
and don't try that shit about AC/BIATCH. here's the original quote
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i actually want an anti-cheat more than you do, remember? everyone knows which side of the cheat vs anti-cheat battle i'm on. would that we knew the same about you, considering the fact you've gone on record as saying you trust and respect 0x90 more than me (you must regret saying this by now, surely? not only does this display a level of judgement somewhere below that of the average cheater, it's another thing for which you owe me an apology), considering what happened in the private TT forum a while ago - where i asked you to be open with the rest of TT just what shady dealings you're doing with 0x90 and you flat out refused to tell us.
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if someone said that about me and it wasn't true, i would have a better defence than that.
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| liquidv2 wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 23:53 |
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 16:20 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 14 August 2011 10:34 |
Which is odd since he of most people around here should know what progress is being made. If he doesn't then I suggest him to formally leave the TT team.
Edit: Ah, he is actually not even in the slightest interested in TT. That's funny. Apparently he calls it my or our TT, but not his TT. So Spoony, when can we expect the official resignation letter? I'm looking forward to it, considering your replies.
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well said Spoony
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Well said indeed, it shows the level of Spoony's debating skills.
Btw, Spoony, if you're not interested in TT, or thinking it takes too long, then quiting isn't a shame, really. I mean, It's been quite a while since it was announced and progress is slow indeed. I think everyone can understand when you decide to abandon the team because you're unhappy with the (lack of?) progress.
But don't start accusing me of doing fuck all, I might not do a lot compared to coding gods like StealthEye, Shaderhawk or JonWil, but I do my bits. I worked on the website, set up the wiki and did some bits of project management. The latter wasn't all to successful in itself, but I think it did help to get things moving again. Hmm, I even pay for TT, so me doing fuckall, certainly not.
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