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Does anybody know where I can find a skin for the medium tank "treads", or tracks? I found the one on renegadeskins.net (which is very nice) but the link is broken, and nothing on game-maps.net. Or, does anyone know any other site I can check that may possibly have it?

Thanks.

P.S. Some skins I add to the data folder actually cause my game to not run at all. Any ideas as to why this may be, or how I can fix/avoid this issue?

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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450229 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What skin? Are you referring to this?

http://www.dumonttaxidermy.com/retail/bearmainpic.jpg

The term you're looking for is "texture" or "tex", for short. It is not a "skin". Skin refers to binding a skeleton to a model so that it animates.
Re: Renegade Skin [message #450230 is a reply to message #450229] Thu, 28 July 2011 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Funny. This is what I am looking for: http://www.renegadeskins.net/t913-med-tank-treads

But the download links are not working. Any ideas?
Re: Renegade Skin [message #450232 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If some of the skins you have in your data folder (like medtank skin for example) doesnt show ingame, make sure you've set the .exe as admin as it worked for me.

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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450234 is a reply to message #450229] Thu, 28 July 2011 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 28 July 2011 12:17

The term you're looking for is "texture" or "tex", for short. It is not a "skin". Skin refers to binding a skeleton to a model so that it animates.


I think most would agree that his definition of a "skin" is very common and accepted... No need to go all nerdy on him and try to give him a lesson in proper modding terms.

In case you say that was supposed to be a joke and tell me to lighten up, it sucked ass and just made you look like a know it all douche... Gotta cover all bases in this place.

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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450236 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I often find myself in agreement with Aircraftkiller. I find it quite unintelligent of people in the same scenario where someone is called a "hacker", when in fact they are "cheating", which has no direct relation. It's never really a great idea to promote the dumbing-down of society. Formalities can be breaking in situations where it matters. Not that any of what I just typed out has any relevance for anyone here to care because it's a gaming forum.. or the fact that it derails the topic from the OP's question, but it is an interesting subject/matter to think about when you have nothing else going on.

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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450237 is a reply to message #450236] Thu, 28 July 2011 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450238 is a reply to message #450237] Thu, 28 July 2011 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HaTe wrote on Thu, 28 July 2011 12:48

stfu


I LOL'd.

Though they are right, but this isn't irl. I could care less about spelling (unless it's Duck's spelling, then everything matters.)


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450239 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xryan wrote on Thu, 28 July 2011 20:05

P.S. Some skins I add to the data folder actually cause my game to not run at all. Any ideas as to why this may be, or how I can fix/avoid this issue?


maybe the skins you try to install on your data folder are corrupt or something else can cause those. make sure you got those skins from a good source (and aren't cheats or advantage skins...)

to avoid this, try not to install those skins or tell to its creator to fix them.

ps: i looked on that link of skin, is just thread skin, the moving parts of the tank not the actual tank skin.


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450240 is a reply to message #450239] Thu, 28 July 2011 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boofst0rm made those. You can download them both here:

http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=380973&rid=22731& #msg_380973


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450245 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyone who thinks they can argue with Aircraftkiller about Skins vs Textures needs to read about 10,000 pages of old forum threads.

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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450247 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's texture, everyone knows that.
Re: Renegade Skin [message #450248 is a reply to message #450245] Thu, 28 July 2011 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Thu, 28 July 2011 15:23

Anyone who thinks they can argue with Aircraftkiller about Skins vs Textures needs to read about 10,000 pages of old forum threads.

lol


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450251 is a reply to message #450245] Thu, 28 July 2011 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Fri, 29 July 2011 00:23

Anyone who thinks they can argue with Aircraftkiller about Skins vs Textures needs to read about 10,000 pages of old forum threads.

Fun thing is, both are correct.

One is not technically correct, but is correct in the "offline" world. If you want to make something different you apply a skin to it. For those who are not that much into the subject, it is only logical to apply the real world word for the process.
I guess it's comparable with people using current, voltage and power mixed as well, while they are very different things.

So technically there is a difference, that's true, but in terms of linguistics, skins would be right as well.


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450252 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's incorrect. If people suddenly start calling the sky green, instead of blue, it does not make them correct. The correct term is "texture" or "tex" for short. It's even faster to type than "skin" is, and a lot more descriptive of the file being discussed.

A skin is a covering, or a UI modification like a skin for Opera 11. A texture is what's applied to the UV coordinates, it is not a covering.
Re: Renegade Skin [message #450257 is a reply to message #450237] Thu, 28 July 2011 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HaTe wrote on Thu, 28 July 2011 12:48

stfu



Also had to lol @ the fail of analogy


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450265 is a reply to message #450228] Thu, 28 July 2011 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see how calling cheaters "hackers" is a pretty misleading or whatever, but for as long as I have been around online gaming it has always been understood that a "skin" could equal a texture modification.

Granted I have only been in the online world for about 7-8 years, and some of you have obviously been around longer.

I would say the word "skin" is a good description of what he was looking for. If you disagree, just google search and see how many game websites have "skin" categories and what is in them...

I have done some re-textures myself, most probably would not like them, but "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

When I searched for resources, "texture" was often the best keyword, to find good patterns. No where in my searches have I ever seen anyone say, "it's not called a skin"... For you more technical people I could see you like proper terms, but it is kinda arrogant to correct lesser informed people. When it is obvious what they mean.

I would say in my personal opinion the best uses would be as follows:

Texture = any pattern before applied to model

Skin = pattern that has been applied to specific model

Obviously calling the sky green is stupid, but that is a completely different idea.
Re: Renegade Skin [message #450269 is a reply to message #450228] Fri, 29 July 2011 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquialism

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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450346 is a reply to message #450228] Sat, 30 July 2011 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Skins" in this context comes from people modding games like Quake back in the day. It meant creating a new character or look, without altering the model. For example, turning the Quake guy into Spider-Man. I've never understood the hostility towards this definition, especially since it is so similar to a skin for a browser (it changes the look, but nothing else.) It makes sense to me, particularly because it's usually in reference to a humanoid character model. People don't tend to say they're going to "skin" a map.

Here's an example: Polycount circa 2000. http://web.archive.org/web/20000815070639/http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/ Everybody referred to a re-textured character model as a skin back then. It was, and still is, very widespread. If it was ever the incorrect usage of a term that described something else, at this point it has become a new definition of the word. It has even made it to the Wikipedia page for skin (disambiguation)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_%28disambiguation%29
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Computing

Skin (computing), a customized graphical presentation for computer software and websites
In computer graphics, skinning is a term commonly associated with texture mapping
In computer animation, skinning is attaching a mesh to a set of bones in skeletal animation


The very fact that Aircraftkiller is still having to correct people here, shows how futile it is to fight against new word definitions and slang, once they go mainstream. On other internet forums today, other people are asking questions about "skins", and there will never be enough time in the day to introduce all of these people to that picture of a dead bear. Razz


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Re: Renegade Skin [message #450347 is a reply to message #450228] Sat, 30 July 2011 16:37 Go to previous message
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