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| Re: Atomix [message #449924 is a reply to message #449923] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:50   |
Caveman
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| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 22:48 |
I thought we were talking about you, not them. I'm not Xpert, so ask him. I don't care about this enough to go look up every moderators rank and games played. If they have 0 for the past month, and they aren't scripters/coders, then obviously I agree they shouldn't remain as a mod too. There are exceptions though, such as informing the owner why you're gone..
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Exactly that's my point, thats why ive said why are you backing Xpert when you don't know the facts..
I informed other people, senior mods and full mods I wasn't gonna be as active, I can't inform someone who IGNORES me.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449925 is a reply to message #449765] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:57 |
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Well since Caveman was an admin Hate you must be pretty fucking blind if you ask me and obviously not around as much as you think, now go back to whatever hole you climbed out of and butt out, the dildos on the fingers thing is pretty accurate if you ask me.
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: Atomix [message #449928 is a reply to message #449765] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 15:43 |
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It has nothing to do with being selfish, why would anyone be apart of something that is totally by choice, if they don't agree with how it is run and its current state, Atomix was good before, sucks now, thats all there is to it, why would I be apart of something that sucks?
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: Atomix [message #449929 is a reply to message #449765] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 15:52 |
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iTaLy has one ball the size of a watermelon. The other is normal sized.
When you have testosterone issues like he does.. i wouldn't blame him for minor incidents.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449932 is a reply to message #449930] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 17:19 |
Caveman
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| Tunaman wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 00:13 |
it does seem silly that you don't like playing ren and weren't playing for a month, but you're also upset at having your half mod removed
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Yes what you've said is correct, I was inactive from game for a month (+/-) however I was still actively modding the server, present on IRC for most part of the day (as I work in computing I could IRC while at work) and made daily posts on the forums.
That's completely different from not being here at all for a month and then coming back and going ok guys wtf?
If he wants to remove me as a mod then thats fine, that's his right but I want it known its cos of personal reasons not because I was AFK.
I want to make other people aware that Xpert, to put it nicely, is a power hungry wanker 
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449938 is a reply to message #449929] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 20:29 |
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| Tiesto wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 00:52 |
iTaLy has one ball the size of a watermelon. The other is normal sized.
When you have testosterone issues like he does.. i wouldn't blame him for minor incidents.
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Congratulations, you just scored lowest points for the most useless most personal comments ever....
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Oh and Caveman, why bother, you'll never get any mods rights again at Atomix again. Stop wasting your energy however wrong or right they may be...
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| Re: Atomix [message #449943 is a reply to message #449765] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 22:28 |
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I don't think that, at all, is his objective, I'm sure he is unwilling to work under such an ass bandit for an owner and in the same boat as me, we would just like our questions answered and not sugarcoated, or lied about, and justified.
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: Atomix [message #449949 is a reply to message #449943] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 00:22 |
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| VuLTiMa wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 22:28 |
I don't think that, at all, is his objective, I'm sure he is unwilling to work under such an ass bandit for an owner and in the same boat as me, we would just like our questions answered and not sugarcoated, or lied about, and justified.
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or you could, you know, not give a fuck
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| Re: Atomix [message #449950 is a reply to message #449765] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 00:59 |
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The number of inaccuracies being thrown around in this topic from people who by no means have the full story is astounding. /grainofsalt
To those that complain I haven't been removed due to inactivity - at risk of sounding pompous - I built this community from the ground up. From before the days of Xpert, Ungy and all the other senior staff we've gone through. The fact is that we're not all on equal footing, and to assume as such is incredibly misguided. Communities need a hierarchy - I challenge you to name one that doesn't. You may have put time and effort into the community, but I've put in a lot, lot more. So no, inactivity is not inactivity. Yes Caveman - this means that I think senior staff do, in some circumstances, receive different treatment. I know this pops your bubble of moral sensitivity, but you need to get your head around it or stop banging on about it.
Besides which, someone who is inactive does very little to harm a community. Even if we only get their experience and skills for one day a week, we're better off. I've maintained that position for a long time.
That brings me to my second point, which I hope people will read before quoting the above out of context. In my personal opinion, a lot of the reason behind recent removals is more to do with the fact that these people were doing more harm than good. The time when these people were present, they were present with a jaded, toxic and uncooperative attitude. Inactivity certainly played a role in your removals, but so too did your attitudes. You had lost all respect for the senior and junior staff (whoever's fault that was is frankly irrelevant), you contributed nothing then hid behind the fact you've banned people in the past x weeks to justify your existence, you approached everything with a sarcastic and immature attitude. All in all, it was a horribly ineffective arrangement. And yet, somehow, we're the bad guys from putting a stop to it. Go figure.
Caveman, you know my opinion on why you were removed. You disagree so violently with how Xpert runs the community, and yet you still somehow think you can fit in. One of the prerequisites of being staff is agreeing, at least in principle, with the approach and the ideals of the senior staff. If you don't - especially to the extent that you do not - you're not a good fit for that community. And yet, you're still there trying to bash your round peg into that square hole. How long will it take before you get the point that Xpert is the owner, and YES! That means he gets to run things how he wants. I've lost count of the number of times I've said that to you. Yours is the only case where I feel like you've been remotely hard done by. I know you mean for the best, but you're just so horribly unsuited to the current environment at Atomix.
The others - Vultima, Italy, etc. - there's a reason you've been nicknamed the possie. You had no interest in the community. You had no interest in improvement or upholding certain standards. When you played, you knew exactly where the rules could be bent to advantage yourselves - so you did - and you were overly exclusive. Some (not all, I'm aware) of you were warned for breaking our rules, then continued to do so behind our backs. You represented Atomix in a poor light (read: Italy - how are you failing so hard at understanding that having one of our mods cheat in another server is a no-no)? You did the bare minimum to maintain your status, and spent the rest of your time pushing our buttons trying to get a reaction. You got one, and now you're upset about it. I've got very little sympathy.
Re: the forums. Great work guys, at highlighting the exact reason you were removed. You support the community for years, try and justify your actions with your undying love for the community, then resort to this. Define:contradiction. The way you've resorted to this sort of action is pretty much inline with the typical anonymous internet scumbag, so I can't say I'm incredibly surprised. Not long ago, you were laughing and mocking those who made these sort of desperate, last ditched attempts to get some attention. You're those people now. Good show.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449951 is a reply to message #449950] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 01:19 |
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I agree with most of what you just said, but not the following.
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Besides which, someone who is inactive does very little to harm a community. Even if we only get their experience and skills for one day a week, we're better off. I've maintained that position for a long time.
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I personally find that all this does is make the mod team appear to be bigger than it actually is, and therefore providing the image that the mod team is inactive as a whole. Proven drastically by people not knowing who Caveman was. It also just gets lower mods confused when a Senior mod/admin is not active, yet they are completely active, and are doing their job, yet have less power. To have ones voice overrun by somebody who isn't even active in the server being discussed is both irritating and down right stupid. If it were up to me, admins and senior mods would slowly start moving their way down the mod rank chain if they were inactive. I've also seen many people in the Atomix server have the attitude of "Atomix mods cheat" and "Atomix has no mods," because of the image that is being shown to them. A pretty decent size mod list, with only half mods and temp mods ever on is providing that very image. Not to mention that when one mod does one stupid thing (Italy cheating), it affects the entire image of the mod team as a whole, not just that player.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Atomix [message #449952 is a reply to message #449765] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 01:31 |
dippy
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Right, I agree. Inactivity isn't great, but I do think we can withstand a certain amount.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449955 is a reply to message #449950] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 03:46 |
Caveman
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| dippy wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 08:59 |
To those that complain I haven't been removed due to inactivity - at risk of sounding pompous - I built this community from the ground up. From before the days of Xpert, Ungy and all the other senior staff we've gone through. The fact is that we're not all on equal footing, and to assume as such is incredibly misguided. Communities need a hierarchy - I challenge you to name one that doesn't. You may have put time and effort into the community, but I've put in a lot, lot more. So no, inactivity is not inactivity. Yes Caveman - this means that I think senior staff do, in some circumstances, receive different treatment. I know this pops your bubble of moral sensitivity, but you need to get your head around it or stop banging on about it.
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Noone has said that you've haven't put a lot of time into the community, I'm not trying to argue your position or anything like that however, I am quoting X here 'Inactivity is inactivity' his words mate, not mine. This is why I said well what bout you, Elmo and other mods, it was nothing personal it was me proving that my removal wasn't because I was AFK. Yes we need a hierarchy, of course, however people should still get treated the same whether they're a halfy thats been here for 2 days or an admin thats been here since the beginning.
Just because you, elmo, x, hypnos or whoever have been here longer that doesn't mean that you're more important or that you can have the rules bent for you. This is where I get pissy, rules are rules everyone should abide by them.
In my workplace I have quite an important role (just like you have here) doesn't mean I can have longer breaks, or turn up when I want or have a smoke. We have a hierarchy however rules are rules.
| dippy wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 08:59 |
Besides which, someone who is inactive does very little to harm a community. Even if we only get their experience and skills for one day a week, we're better off. I've maintained that position for a long time.
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Yet I did that (although I was more active) and im somehow in the wrong, according to X.
| dippy wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 08:59 |
That brings me to my second point, which I hope people will read before quoting the above out of context. In my personal opinion, a lot of the reason behind recent removals is more to do with the fact that these people were doing more harm than good. The time when these people were present, they were present with a jaded, toxic and uncooperative attitude. Inactivity certainly played a role in your removals, but so too did your attitudes. You had lost all respect for the senior and junior staff (whoever's fault that was is frankly irrelevant), you contributed nothing then hid behind the fact you've banned people in the past x weeks to justify your existence, you approached everything with a sarcastic and immature attitude. All in all, it was a horribly ineffective arrangement. And yet, somehow, we're the bad guys from putting a stop to it. Go figure.
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I hope that doesn't apply to me, I can't see how I would have done more harm then good, I can't see how I did any harm but ok. As far as I know I didn't lose anyones respect albeit Xperts which is to be expected. I still had senior stuff say to me even though what im saying is right and they agree with me, its X's server.
| dippy wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 08:59 |
Caveman, you know my opinion on why you were removed. You disagree so violently with how Xpert runs the community, and yet you still somehow think you can fit in. One of the prerequisites of being staff is agreeing, at least in principle, with the approach and the ideals of the senior staff. If you don't - especially to the extent that you do not - you're not a good fit for that community. And yet, you're still there trying to bash your round peg into that square hole. How long will it take before you get the point that Xpert is the owner, and YES! That means he gets to run things how he wants. I've lost count of the number of times I've said that to you. Yours is the only case where I feel like you've been remotely hard done by. I know you mean for the best, but you're just so horribly unsuited to the current environment at Atomix.
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I've said this many times, yes its his server he can do what he likes with the server, however you can't run a community like that, when you do this happens, its not the first time this has happened and im not the only one to have stood up and said so. Yes being a lesser staff I should accept when X has made the final decision but if me and most of the other staff thinks its the wrong one then we should be allowed to express our opinions and ask why he has decided to choose it. Not just go 'My server sit the fuck down' You wouldn't run Atomix like this, so surely you should understand where I am coming from.
I do want whats best for this community, its all I ever wanted, I put a lot of time, money and effort into it while I was joint owner, so yeah when I come back as a halfy and I try and express myself, show willingness to improve, get 'promoted' and I get flat out IGNORED what do you expect?
X and myself have different ways of running things so yeah if he chooses to do it differently and myself and other mods, senior and on occasions joint admins think he is wrong then surely we should be allowed to say hold on mate, we respect its your server but we all feel it would be better doing it like this and not to be flat out ignored. Even if he still says well tbf guys I think it would be better how I do it would be nice but no, we get ignored.
I keep on using a word here, can you pick out what it is?
| dippy wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 08:59 |
The others - Vultima, Italy, etc. - there's a reason you've been nicknamed the possie. You had no interest in the community. You had no interest in improvement or upholding certain standards. When you played, you knew exactly where the rules could be bent to advantage yourselves - so you did - and you were overly exclusive. Some (not all, I'm aware) of you were warned for breaking our rules, then continued to do so behind our backs. You represented Atomix in a poor light (read: Italy - how are you failing so hard at understanding that having one of our mods cheat in another server is a no-no)? You did the bare minimum to maintain your status, and spent the rest of your time pushing our buttons trying to get a reaction. You got one, and now you're upset about it. I've got very little sympathy.
Re: the forums. Great work guys, at highlighting the exact reason you were removed. You support the community for years, try and justify your actions with your undying love for the community, then resort to this. Define:contradiction. The way you've resorted to this sort of action is pretty much inline with the typical anonymous internet scumbag, so I can't say I'm incredibly surprised. Not long ago, you were laughing and mocking those who made these sort of desperate, last ditched attempts to get some attention. You're those people now. Good show.
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I can't comment on that as I had nothing to do with any of it, I dont condone it however I did find it amusing.
To be blunt lesser members of the community shouldn't have to feel like they're walking on egg shells whenever they disagree with X but as of late that's exactly how it is.
I'm not trying to get my mod back, I know X isn't gonna drop his ego and meet me half way,(even though I said to you both privately that fine i'll do it your way and i'd bounce on his epenis because I wanted what was best for Atomix and I still got whats the word... IGNORED.) that's not the point of this topic (as it is now) I want it known that X is a prick and if you don't do as he says he will just make up some bollox to get rid of you.
As I have said already, he can hire/fire who he wants but I just wanted the public to know his actual reasons behind it not that BS he used to cover it up so when others decide to join atomix as a part of the community they know what they're getting themselves in for.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449956 is a reply to message #449765] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 04:12 |
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Me and Italy to begin with hardly did more harm that good, we were the only active mods actually doing something for a good 4 months, and hardly called people out, what I figure is, Italy saw Atomix was doing something stupid and decided to go out with a bang.
I kept my mouth shut until my status was removed, as did Caveman, to keep the peace with Xpert, if Caveman didn't agree with Xpert, I didn't see him going "OMGWTFSHITDECISION", as people somehow appear to think.
I cannot recall one topic where he did that on a minor scale - the part when he spoke out about needing more senior mods, which was totally a good decision, as Xpert seems to be hated by a lot of people and the server kept getting downed, and the serial to it changed, meaning during the early hours of american/candian time, but UK morning, the server would be down and as usual it would just be me italy caveman and hypnos and would have to wait for periods of 12 hours for it to be online again as no one could put it back online, occasionally dippy would be on as it would be nighttime for him, and he would fix the problem, but that was even rare.
I didn't even make it public that I had a problem until the very end of days, which anyways I was getting ganged up on by Appshot and basically Xperts "minions", so yea why would I take that shit, they clearly had a problem because of what Xpert had said to them, and I aren't going to take that shit.
And also then, in the end, you gave Hypnos senior admin on a whim, I remember talking to you about Hypnos, when Italy was repromoted to fullmod and Hypnos who was here for ages was still a half, you intentionally did that to piss him off, and now he is senior mod, he is still basically a fullmod on what he can do, besides a few serial protection commands.
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: Atomix [message #449962 is a reply to message #449938] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 10:27 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 04:29 |
| Tiesto wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 00:52 |
iTaLy has one ball the size of a watermelon. The other is normal sized.
When you have testosterone issues like he does.. i wouldn't blame him for minor incidents.
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Congratulations, you just scored lowest points for the most useless most personal comments ever....
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Oh and Caveman, why bother, you'll never get any mods rights again at Atomix again. Stop wasting your energy however wrong or right they may be...
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Congratulations..It was a joke.
Probably my fault for not realising THIS IS SO SERIOUSSS!
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| Re: Atomix [message #449964 is a reply to message #449765] |
Sat, 23 July 2011 11:21 |
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Anyone who had been around for a decent amount of time and at one point had at least full mod and saw all the behind closed doors stuff at any given point in Atomix knew right away the true reason for getting rid of Caveman as I said in my one post in that topic without saying it straight out. For the people who didn't spend a good amount of time there and know what went on behind closed doors, you probably won't understand the full story.
As I knew it the instant I saw it it was just xpert grabbing at a weak excuse to cover up for the real reason. So many times before the same thing has happened, from other demod's to bans that got swept under the rug because of the fact there wasn't enough evidence.
If you have never been at least full mod in atomix to the point you can see the forum section at least, you in reality have no idea what goes on there and should not speak about any matters regarding Atomix in which you have no clue. I haven't been there in years and things have probably either become better or worse, but it is so clear, the attitude and actions of the decision maker hasn't changed one bit.
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