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| Re: Atomix [message #449886 is a reply to message #449884] |
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| Azazel wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 06:41 |
The hacking of the Ax website is childish and stupid, the children that hacked it have clearly got issues.
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i don't remember any hacking being done.
all information obtained was freely available.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449888 is a reply to message #449884] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 07:47 |
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| Azazel wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 14:41 |
| shaitan wrote on Thu, 21 July 2011 17:44 |
This is all I have to say on the matter. Well, it's nowhere near on topic, but still worth a laugh or two. You're just like Azazel/Shadow was.
Yesterday:
4(09Join04) 07raveshavoc2404 (09174.117.240.22404) 07Joined The Server with Serial 12156851287ea5095f700608f1ca0a8157.
4(09Join04) 07HaTe04 (0966.66.156.3704) 07Joined The Server with Serial 1276fdd59311c7f40606cb55335efee959.
<&SnipeBot> [Private] HaTe to raveshavoc24: should i use free-aim wth it?
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: wta u say, v key wif *cheat name removed*good
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: yes, *cheat name removed*2.1
<&SnipeBot> [Private] HaTe to raveshavoc24: im not big on te cheat thing tho :/
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: every cheat on rena now
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: *cheat name removed*cheat i good
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: whn us v it aim fr u
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: us v with it
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Aww, you still think of me.
I'm touched Shai, pmsl. <3
Caveman shouldn't have been removed, as he's been a fantastic admin since before Xpert was even owner, regardless of how active he was tbh. He did alot of 'behind the scenes work' which is vital, but people forget how admins actually work.
The removal of Italy was just.
The hacking of the Ax website is childish and stupid, the children that hacked it have clearly got issues.
Good luck with getting Ax back online.
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Thanks for the kind words although I can't remember who you are exactly :$
Edit: I just found this on youtubes! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHCPJV6zC5E
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449889 is a reply to message #449885] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 08:29 |
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| shaitan wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 07:10 |
You started using your real nick again? 
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I never stopped sir, check the forums that I visit.
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Thanks for the kind words although I can't remember who you are exactly :$
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Ste525222, Shad00w, D1shadow, ShadowPrime, -?-ShadowPrime, Azazel. the list is endless i've had many nicks.
You're welcome, but all that I've stated is the truth. If admins behaved like moderators, then there would be no point in having admins. Admins are needed to do that extra little bit to get tasks done, in some cases it's unorthodox but it gets the job done, which in the past you've done. Ungy respected your knowlage, feedback and trusted you very much which is why he had you as an administrator.
I hope Xpert see's the error of his ways and reinstates you, the youtube clip is childish tbh.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449890 is a reply to message #449889] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 08:32 |
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| Azazel wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 16:29 |
| shaitan wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 07:10 |
You started using your real nick again?
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I never stopped sir, check the forums that I visit.
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Thanks for the kind words although I can't remember who you are exactly :$
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Ste525222, Shad00w, D1shadow, ShadowPrime, -?-ShadowPrime, Azazel. the list is endless i've had many nicks.
You're welcome, but all that I've stated is the truth. If admins behaved like moderators, then there would be no point in having admins. Admins are needed to do that extra little bit to get tasks done, in some cases it's unorthodox but it gets the job done, which in the past you've done. Ungy respected your knowlage, feedback and trusted you very much which is why he had you as an administrator.
I hope Xpert see's the error of his ways and reinstates you, the youtube clip is childish tbh.
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I can't see Xpert reinstating me tbh, ego is far too huge. I don't mind that in a disrespectful way but its the truth. Ungy was a cool guy, its a shame he isn't around anymore.
The YT clip isn't mine I just found it.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
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| Re: Atomix [message #449896 is a reply to message #449891] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 10:08 |
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My hands are made of dildo's apparently. That would come in handy, actually.
I actually lol'd at the part about me. You kids and your humor!!
Oh, and stfu Azazel.
@Caveman, even when you were active, you were barely active at all in game. I was inactive for less than a month when i got removed, and you don't see me bitching about it. If you really wanted your mod status back that much, you would have proven it and got active again, instead of bitching out Xpert with the rest of the hate Xpert group.
@shaitan, seriously, what cheat? You're so sure I cheat, yet you've never named the cheat that I abuse so much.
I figured the site didn't get "hacked," as I told Duck, it was probably just someone who still knew the password.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Atomix [message #449897 is a reply to message #449888] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 10:19 |
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| Caveman wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 15:47 |
| Azazel wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 14:41 |
| shaitan wrote on Thu, 21 July 2011 17:44 |
This is all I have to say on the matter. Well, it's nowhere near on topic, but still worth a laugh or two. You're just like Azazel/Shadow was.
Yesterday:
4(09Join04) 07raveshavoc2404 (09174.117.240.22404) 07Joined The Server with Serial 12156851287ea5095f700608f1ca0a8157.
4(09Join04) 07HaTe04 (0966.66.156.3704) 07Joined The Server with Serial 1276fdd59311c7f40606cb55335efee959.
<&SnipeBot> [Private] HaTe to raveshavoc24: should i use free-aim wth it?
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: wta u say, v key wif *cheat name removed*good
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: yes, *cheat name removed*2.1
<&SnipeBot> [Private] HaTe to raveshavoc24: im not big on te cheat thing tho :/
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: every cheat on rena now
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: *cheat name removed*cheat i good
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: whn us v it aim fr u
<&SnipeBot> [Private] raveshavoc24 to HaTe: us v with it
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Aww, you still think of me.
I'm touched Shai, pmsl. <3
Caveman shouldn't have been removed, as he's been a fantastic admin since before Xpert was even owner, regardless of how active he was tbh. He did alot of 'behind the scenes work' which is vital, but people forget how admins actually work.
The removal of Italy was just.
The hacking of the Ax website is childish and stupid, the children that hacked it have clearly got issues.
Good luck with getting Ax back online.
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Thanks for the kind words although I can't remember who you are exactly :$
Edit: I just found this on youtubes! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHCPJV6zC5E
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I actually couldnt stop laughing and im not even clued up on this haha 
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| Re: Atomix [message #449898 is a reply to message #449896] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 10:38 |
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| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 18:08 |
My hands are made of dildo's apparently. That would come in handy, actually.
I actually lol'd at the part about me. You kids and your humor!!
Oh, and stfu Azazel.
@Caveman, even when you were active, you were barely active at all in game. I was inactive for less than a month when i got removed, and you don't see me bitching about it. If you really wanted your mod status back that much, you would have proven it and got active again, instead of bitching out Xpert with the rest of the hate Xpert group.
@shaitan, seriously, what cheat? You're so sure I cheat, yet you've never named the cheat that I abuse so much.
I figured the site didn't get "hacked," as I told Duck, it was probably just someone who still knew the password.
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Again, I was active just not as much as I could have been. I asked why I was removed politely and I got ignored twice... I do the right thing and get ignored so I made a public post about it, that seems to be the only way to get Xpert's attention.
Well quite clearly you don't care for Atomix as much as I do, I put a lot of time, money and effort into that community so yeah I was pissed when I was removed without prior warning or notice. To make it worse the excuse was bogus and Xpert knows it.
I came back to game and I said fair enough lets start a fresh but again I got ignored and rejected.
You tell me what I could have done differently?
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
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| Re: Atomix [message #449900 is a reply to message #449898] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 10:48 |
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Actually come back to the game, and not just say you're back would be a plus. One game a week is hardly moderating.
You're probably right when you say you cared about Atomix more than me, to me it was a community where a lot of my buds from fnfalls went, and I followed. I liked the community, the server, and how it was run. You were there before me though, meaning you know the history of the place, and probably were able to appreciate it more because of that. I'm not saying that you weren't a good mod/admin while you were active, but it was an extreme rarity to ever see your nickname in game. You say that you made it public, but you're leaving out HOW you made it public. Basically calling out Xpert, and siding with the "who's dick didn't I suck enough" group. If you truly wanted the admin back as much as you claim, you would have done the mature thing and reasoned with him. I don't know nor care what happened behind the scenes with you two....you should of just moved on and made up. You're also right when you say that it's probably too late now, seeing how it's kind of hard to go back on some of the things you've said since being removed..
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Atomix [message #449903 is a reply to message #449900] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 11:07 |
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I don't play on the server as Caveman, I haven't done so for like a year... So just because *you* dont know im playing doesn't mean other people dont.
I came back to game, activity and I said, fair enough lets start a fresh and once again I got ignored and rejected.
What have I said since being removed? I've spoke the truth, if X doesn't agree with you, its doesn't happen, so the only way to get on with him is either bounce on his epenis and praise him god almighty or just suffer in silence... Im sorry but that's not a community, that's a dictatorship. The sole purpose of us (from his POV) was to ban cheaters and keep the server at peace, if it involved changes to anything, being server, mods, rules etc then it would fall on deaf ears.
Dippy even said it wouldn't be his way of running the community however he doesn't have a say on what Xpert does, now if his own right hand man is agreeing with what I say what does that tell you?
Yeah I called him out in public but ask yourself, is that how I started the thread? I do believe I was very polite and reasonable and it was only when X decided to chat shit about me being AFK and then refusing to answer anything I said is when I stated the truth as to why I was removed.
This is where the other members/mods are saying you're bouncing on his epenis cos you're defending him but you don't actually know what's going on, that's not your fault however you shouldn't then add your opinion. To me, idc, say what you will, but I know what the truth is and so do the other members, its only the people that are 'close' to him that can't see it.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
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| Re: Atomix [message #449906 is a reply to message #449903] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 11:35 |
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I don't play on the server as Caveman, I haven't done so for like a year... So just because *you* dont know im playing doesn't mean other people dont.
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I've been a moderator for years, and knew/know all common nick names any mods/admins used. I know how active you were, as the ranking system can prove.
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if X doesn't agree with you, its doesn't happen,
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That's not true. He does what he feels is best for the community and server...so if he feels it's going to do more harm than good, then why would he make a change? The most successful servers now-a-days are the one's who have made the least changes. Jelly marathon hasn't changed anything at all in their server for years. Atomix hasn't changed much recently. N00bstories still fucking runs RG....It's not that he doesn't listen, it's that he understands that the player count is what is keeping the community alive and active. Changing the way a 9 year old game is played usually results in people bitching, and ultimately refusing to play in the server.
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now if his own right hand man is agreeing with what I say what does that tell you?
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That you two agree on something. Nothing more...
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is that how I started the thread?
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If I remember correctly, there were 2 threads that had to be merged together, and your attitude at the start was rather sarcastic, but calm. You did only seem to get angered when Xpert said you weren't active in the server, but honestly, was he wrong? Even if I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, that alone is enough to demod you. I'm still yet to see ANY proof or valid argument to support that you were active in the server.
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its only the people that are 'close' to him that can't see it.
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Let me clarify. I am not even remotely "close" to Xpert. I talk to him as much I talk to you. That should tell you something. I have never been on TS with him, rarely ever had a pm conversation with him, and I don't always agree with him, but unlike you (apparently), I am still always able to see where he is coming from. I don't back him up because he's the one being attacked. I back up the community as a whole because I like the community, and I back up the truth and what I see as right. If you were the owner, and this type of thing happened (don't start with "it would never happen," please) I would be backing you up too.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Atomix [message #449907 is a reply to message #449906] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 12:02 |
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| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 19:35 |
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I don't play on the server as Caveman, I haven't done so for like a year... So just because *you* dont know im playing doesn't mean other people dont.
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I've been a moderator for years, and knew/know all common nick names any mods/admins used. I know how active you were, as the ranking system can prove.
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Can you define what ranking system you mean, ingame rank (*best player*) or rank as in mod status?
I can dismiss both arguements.
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if X doesn't agree with you, its doesn't happen,
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That's not true. He does what he feels is best for the community and server...so if he feels it's going to do more harm than good, then why would he make a change? The most successful servers now-a-days are the one's who have made the least changes. Jelly marathon hasn't changed anything at all in their server for years. Atomix hasn't changed much recently. N00bstories still fucking runs RG....It's not that he doesn't listen, it's that he understands that the player count is what is keeping the community alive and active. Changing the way a 9 year old game is played usually results in people bitching, and ultimately refusing to play in the server.
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It wasn't like we asked for things to be changed everyday but certain things needed looking into and it got ignored, important things.
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now if his own right hand man is agreeing with what I say what does that tell you?
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That you two agree on something. Nothing more...
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We're agreeing on the very thing I was arguing about, everyone in the community regardless of rank or position should have there say and it should be listened to. However with X it wasn't unless its what HE wanted. Ask the other admins/senior mods if what im saying is correct. I will show you logs saying otherwise.
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is that how I started the thread?
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If I remember correctly, there were 2 threads that had to be merged together, and your attitude at the start was rather sarcastic, but calm. You did only seem to get angered when Xpert said you weren't active in the server, but honestly, was he wrong? Even if I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, that alone is enough to demod you. I'm still yet to see ANY proof or valid argument to support that you were active in the server.
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Yes there were two things (one I didn't know about), the one I made I asked calmly and not in a sarcastic way as to why I was removed because I had asked privately twice a few days beforehand why I was removed. It was only when I was being told blatant shit that I started with the sly remarks and outting him out.
I hadnt played for 5 weeks prior to my removal, i'd hardly call that inactive, dippy hadn't played for 4 years prior to that.. What's one week? Atleast I was still around throughout my ingame inactivity... If it bothered X that much would it have been so hard to say look Cave im not being funny but you need to start playing a bit more because I will have to remove you as a mod due to inactivity. No it wouldn't, he saw an 'excuse' to get rid of me and he took it.. If that wasn't the case why not answer me when I asked him privately, politely twice as to why I was removed, its not like I was hard to find being on the forums and IRC every single day.
Let's not forget others have been away for a lot longer then 5 weeks and still have their mod/admin position.
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Let me clarify. I am not even remotely "close" to Xpert. I talk to him as much I talk to you. That should tell you something. I have never been on TS with him, rarely ever had a pm conversation with him, and I don't always agree with him, but unlike you (apparently), I am still always able to see where he is coming from. I don't back him up because he's the one being attacked. I back up the community as a whole because I like the community, and I back up the truth and what I see as right. If you were the owner, and this type of thing happened (don't start with "it would never happen," please) I would be backing you up too.
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If that's the case then I apologize, however, what X has done is still wrong. If I was still the joint owner then no this wouldn't have happened because when I was owner I actually listened to what my community members wanted not just what I thought was best. Sure we disagreed on things, but I still acted on what the community wanted. Things were voted on and if thats what they wanted thats what they got. Some occasions require the 'Im boss man, this is happening deal with it' however that's the case with X everytime we wanted something.
How can you have been a mod for years and yet not know its background?
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
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| Re: Atomix [message #449909 is a reply to message #449907] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 12:55 |
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Can you define what ranking system you mean, ingame rank (*best player*) or rank as in mod status?
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It wasn't like we asked for things to be changed everyday but certain things needed looking into and it got ignored, important things.
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Just because they weren't directly acknowledged to as why they were not being changed doesn't mean they were automatically being ignored.
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everyone in the community regardless of rank or position should have there say and it should be listened to.
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I personally have never seen an issue with this. I think you're over-exaggerating your point for the arguments sake. I'm an active member on all active renegade forums now-a-days, and can honestly say that Xpert listens to and comprehends all ideas that pass through to him, a hell of a lot more than some other communities do. For example, there are over 5 polls (in the past 2 months) at Jelly forums for ideas to be implemented in to the server, and only one has ever passed, though the majority vote was often for change. There's a 4 page thread discussing the pros and cons of a harvester recommendation even...Another example is N00bstories - they still run RG on their server, though over 90% of the members and mods there have expressed their hatred and disapproval of this. Point being that Xpert does listen, and I've seen him post in server changing topics more than any other owner out there. I know by "everyday things" you mean the way things are run, but I personally never saw any fault with the way things were run neither.
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I hadnt played for 5 weeks prior to my removal, i'd hardly call that inactive
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That's plenty inactive for a demod if you ask me. Usually communities that you mod at make you post if you're gone for a week or more, so they know ahead of time. There was no formal warning for you, you just sort of stopped.
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Let's not forget others have been away for a lot longer then 5 weeks and still have their mod/admin position.
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The only ones I see that that are the case for are the IRC ops, and the scripters/coders (Stewie).
Is it entirely possible that Xpert used this an excuse to rid you? Yes. Did he still have a good and justifiable reason to remove you regardless? Yes. That's all I'm saying..
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Atomix [message #449911 is a reply to message #449765] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 13:18 |
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Are you never going to get over this? You know the funny thing is, you're playing in atomix more than you ever played before within the past week. Drama occurs and the mods removal has passed and now you show up more.
Do you remember my numerous request for you to utilize the public channel of AX1? Your excuse is that "I'm lazy". What type of bullshit excuse is that. Is it that hard for you to add 1 simple channel to an autojoin script?
You still even till now compare yourself to dippy. I already know dippy's reasons for being inactive. You always worry about other people and comparing them to you, instead of actually worrying about yourself for once and looking at your own flaws or mistakes.
You always claim you're active and here. The only people that agree with that statement are the original mods of atomix. Every other new mod or VIP disagrees with that statement, as they don't even know who you are. You smurf ingame numerous times. How do you expect yourself to be known to the people that don't know you. You claim they can always ask you for help. You're not even in the views of the people since you don't even stay in the public channel. You don't use your mod name. All people view you as, is a person who idles on IRC and reads forums.
Watching IRC and reading forum topics is something. But in your own words, you refuse to play because it's "boring" and you're tired of the "ARE-GEE-H" users (seriously, can we rid of this dumb crap of a language filter)? How's that an excuse. You stated yourself that you don't even find this game interesting anymore, yet you want to be part of a mod team thats primarily based on Renegade and you dislike the game because of a cheat?
You were only a half mod, but you continously tried to overstep your bounds because you're probably so use to running things as an admin. Times have changed. You left about over a year ago. You are not an admin.
You see me make decisions and you always disagree with every single one. You have your own opinions, and I have mine, but it stands that I have the last word. But when I get that last word, you flip a switch and get pissed off and go on a rant on how I'm wrong and you're right. You bash me for the samething you do yourself. You complain that I don't take in the people's word. Then I guess the topics and polls I make on a daily bases asking for people's opinion on things and ideas, are meaningless.
I'm done with this "why I was removed" bullshit. If you can't see the reason after all this, then I got nothing left to say. Because this is a pointless thread, a pointless argument, and nothing more than a mere exchange of words back and forth between us and other people.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449912 is a reply to message #449909] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 13:42 |
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| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 20:55 |
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Can you define what ranking system you mean, ingame rank (*best player*) or rank as in mod status?
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I can't see how this proves/disproves I was active? Just cos I dont sit in game all day whoring off one building and getting loads of recs makes me inactive, I don't see how this relates?
| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 20:55 |
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It wasn't like we asked for things to be changed everyday but certain things needed looking into and it got ignored, important things.
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Just because they weren't directly acknowledged to as why they were not being changed doesn't mean they were automatically being ignored.
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No, they were flat out ignored. This is what im trying to make you understand. Whenever I/other mods tried to ask for something we'd get ignored. If you're adamant that isn't the case then a simple 'I talk it over with the other admins' would have been nice so that we actually know something is being done and not just flat out ignored. When people are ignored what are they to think?
| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 20:55 |
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everyone in the community regardless of rank or position should have there say and it should be listened to.
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I personally have never seen an issue with this. I think you're over-exaggerating your point for the arguments sake. I'm an active member on all active renegade forums now-a-days, and can honestly say that Xpert listens to and comprehends all ideas that pass through to him, a hell of a lot more than some other communities do. For example, there are over 5 polls (in the past 2 months) at Jelly forums for ideas to be implemented in to the server, and only one has ever passed, though the majority vote was often for change. There's a 4 page thread discussing the pros and cons of a harvester recommendation even...Another example is N00bstories - they still run RG on their server, though over 90% of the members and mods there have expressed their hatred and disapproval of this. Point being that Xpert does listen, and I've seen him post in server changing topics more than any other owner out there. I know by "everyday things" you mean the way things are run, but I personally never saw any fault with the way things were run neither.
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Yeah if Xpert wants things changed he will ask, im not saying that's not the case however if *we* want things changed for whatever reason, it gets ignored and we get 'My server, sit the fuck down' that's my point.
| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 20:55 |
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I hadnt played for 5 weeks prior to my removal, i'd hardly call that inactive
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That's plenty inactive for a demod if you ask me. Usually communities that you mod at make you post if you're gone for a week or more, so they know ahead of time. There was no formal warning for you, you just sort of stopped.
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I hadn't gone a way thats the point I just stopped playing ren at the time... I was still here, I don't think Elmo (joint admin) hadn't played for like 2 months at one point, did he get demodded without warning? No. Anthem, at the time stopped playing, its the same story. If I was completely inactive and noone knew where the fuck I was then fair play I can agree but I was here, I was still banning people, modding the server, I just didnt play the game... Different things entirely.
| HaTe wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 20:55 |
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Let's not forget others have been away for a lot longer then 5 weeks and still have their mod/admin position.
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The only ones I see that that are the case for are the IRC ops, and the scripters/coders (Stewie).
Is it entirely possible that Xpert used this an excuse to rid you? Yes. Did he still have a good and justifiable reason to remove you regardless? Yes. That's all I'm saying..
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Whether its IRCops or scripters.. If they aren't playing the game then they should be removed, thats why I was removed in the first place. I was still modding from IRC. Posting on the forums daily and generally helping people when needed however that makes me inactive.
He didn't have good grounds to remove me, I did my job and I did it well... I hadnt had any complains of unfair treatment and I was an active mod (I do have a RL believe it or not so playing the game isn't always what I have time to do)
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449913 is a reply to message #449765] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:10 |
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Also how come Stewie retained his status within the community, and I know the excuse was used of "he was never here to commit mod duties anyway, he is just a coder for me", which is pretty much your relationship with Stewie, if so, why can't all mods get that special treatment, Stewie played about two times and thats been about it.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449914 is a reply to message #449911] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:17 |
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| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
Are you never going to get over this? You know the funny thing is, you're playing in atomix more than you ever played before within the past week. Drama occurs and the mods removal has passed and now you show up more.
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Im not gonna let this go until you explain why exactly I was removed, not the BS I was AFK.
Yeah, as of late ive played more, I have more time to play. I do have a RL. I have a 48hour week job, a missis, a baby on the way and other things I need to take care of before I can sit down and play game.
| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
Do you remember my numerous request for you to utilize the public channel of AX1? Your excuse is that "I'm lazy". What type of bullshit excuse is that. Is it that hard for you to add 1 simple channel to an autojoin script?
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You never ACTUALLY asked me to join that channel, you made sly remarks cos I wasn't in it and it was only until I was removed I stated why I wasn't in it, if you like I can upload the SS's to show that. I could have easily added the channel to my auto join and maybe I should have, but you seriously gonna sit there and say you removed me cos I wasn't in a channel... Its not like the general public (being IRC and ingame couldnt get ahold of me) since I was in #hangout (the channel everyone is forced to join) so you point of noone except mods could get ahold of me is mute.
| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
You still even till now compare yourself to dippy. I already know dippy's reasons for being inactive. You always worry about other people and comparing them to you, instead of actually worrying about yourself for once and looking at your own flaws or mistakes.
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So its ok for dippy to be inactive but not me? Im not comparing myself to anyone I just think its fair that you treat everyone the same regardless of rank. I'm gonna quote you here and say Inactivity is inactivity is it not?
| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
You always claim you're active and here. The only people that agree with that statement are the original mods of atomix. Every other new mod or VIP disagrees with that statement, as they don't even know who you are. You smurf ingame numerous times. How do you expect yourself to be known to the people that don't know you. You claim they can always ask you for help. You're not even in the views of the people since you don't even stay in the public channel. You don't use your mod name. All people view you as, is a person who idles on IRC and reads forums.
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Umm? Would you say "Gohax, [WaR]SmiLey, Blunts, Appshot, Anthem, Evilelmo, JaNiToR, Italy etc.. People who WERENT the original mods dont know who Kibbutz is, the ONLY smurf name I use and have used for like a year? While you're there ask anyone in the server that's a regular who has a brain cell who Kibbutz is and they will say Caveman.
| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
Watching IRC and reading forum topics is something. But in your own words, you refuse to play because it's "boring" and you're tired of the "ARE-GEE-H" users (seriously, can we rid of this dumb crap of a language filter)? How's that an excuse. You stated yourself that you don't even find this game interesting anymore, yet you want to be part of a mod team thats primarily based on Renegade and you dislike the game because of a cheat?
You were only a half mod, but you continously tried to overstep your bounds because you're probably so use to running things as an admin. Times have changed. You left about over a year ago. You are not an admin.
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Yeah renegade is boring, ask Ez how many times ive said to him in the last 2 days how bored I have become of ren even though im playing it as im telling him. I dont find the GAME fun. That doesn't mean I can't be a mod, that I don't enjoy being apart of the community, that I don't like giving up my FREE TIME to help people. The game is full of RGHers and you know it, it makes the game so unfun, why brother trying when half the team is in the tunnels with *cheat name removed*sniping each other. Yeah im only a half mod, why is that? Because you want 'promote me' because you can't trust me... How can you begin to trust them when you IGNORE THEM. I deserve to be higher then a halfy (not that rank actually means fuck all to me, I treat everyone the same)
| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
You see me make decisions and you always disagree with every single one. You have your own opinions, and I have mine, but it stands that I have the last word. But when I get that last word, you flip a switch and get pissed off and go on a rant on how I'm wrong and you're right. You bash me for the samething you do yourself. You complain that I don't take in the people's word. Then I guess the topics and polls I make on a daily bases asking for people's opinion on things and ideas, are meaningless.
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I stated that yeah you make polls if you have an idea about something, I can't fault you with that however if someone asks you to change something, and its something you don't agree with you pull out the admin card and ignore em, like the time we needed more active mods (ironic this?) and you stood there and said no we dont even know Dippy agreed with me, so did 90% of the mod team because at the time it was me, vult and italy doing all the work 24 hours a day when we're all based in the UK, so often the server was left unmodded for 12+hours at a time.
If you really want X I will dig out the logs and show you your own fucking admins said I was right and that you needed other admins/mods around cos it wasn't fair. I just dont want to drag others into this unless absolutely necessary. Just like more then half the mod team said that it was a bad idea to unban people that basically say im sorry I wont cheat again aslong as it was like 3months after.
| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 21:18 |
I'm done with this "why I was removed" bullshit. If you can't see the reason after all this, then I got nothing left to say. Because this is a pointless thread, a pointless argument, and nothing more than a mere exchange of words back and forth between us and other people.
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No I can see the reason, the reason is you like to be the person in control all the time, which fair enough its your right cos you pay the bills however that's not how you run a community and you don't like it cos I was the only person bar Duck since that was before my time actually stood up to you and said hold on thats wrong. You've openly admitted to the public you don't care for Atomix and the only reason you're still here is cos you're getting donations from lets be honest complete fucking mugs and they're keeping the server running.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449915 is a reply to message #449914] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:27 |
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| Caveman wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 17:17 |
Umm? Would you say "Gohax, [WaR]SmiLey, Blunts, Appshot, Anthem, Evilelmo, JaNiToR, Italy etc.. People who WERENT the original mods dont know who Kibbutz is
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Oh?
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---- PM Session with user blunts ----
[16:56:53] <blunts> anyone ban kibbutz?
[16:56:55] <Buns{AFK}> why
[16:57:14] <blunts> o lots of detections
[16:58:19] <blunts> i count 24, back 2 back.
[16:58:33] <blunts> but owell.
[16:59:16] <Buns{AFK}> thats caveman btw
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I lol'd. So much for knowing who you are huh? This was 30 mins ago.
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the ONLY smurf name I use and have used for like a year?
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Bullshit but ok!
I'm not going to bother debating the rest of your words. It's pointless. Back and forth, back and forth, yawn, it's old. I just thought that piece above was funny.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449916 is a reply to message #449915] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:33 |
Caveman
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| Xpert wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 22:27 |
| Caveman wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 17:17 |
Umm? Would you say "Gohax, [WaR]SmiLey, Blunts, Appshot, Anthem, Evilelmo, JaNiToR, Italy etc.. People who WERENT the original mods dont know who Kibbutz is
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Oh?
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---- PM Session with user blunts ----
[16:56:53] <blunts> anyone ban kibbutz?
[16:56:55] <Buns{AFK}> why
[16:57:14] <blunts> o lots of detections
[16:58:19] <blunts> i count 24, back 2 back.
[16:58:33] <blunts> but owell.
[16:59:16] <Buns{AFK}> thats caveman btw
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I lol'd. So much for knowing who you are huh? This was 30 mins ago.
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the ONLY smurf name I use and have used for like a year?
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Bullshit but ok!
I'm not going to bother debating the rest of your words. It's pointless. Back and forth, back and forth, yawn, it's old. I just thought that piece above was funny.
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Fine - Everyone in that list all but blunts. Im so sorry....
If its not the only smurf name I used then show it.. Yeah we all smurf for a game or two but I mean actually use a smurf name day in day out. Im sure I can pull out logs of you use, dippy and others using the odd nick here and there for the fun of it (unused nicks before you say im smurfing genuine players)
Back and forth? You haven't answered any of it, how can me and you be going back and forth when YOU haven't answered any of it.
Answer the questions. PROVE ME WRONG.
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Now that I remember.. Blunts is a pretty bad person to use as when I joined as 0x90 one time he actually believe it was him and banned him and was like OMGHOMGOMGOMG I just banned the creator of RGH. Nothing a simple !ip <my ip> would have fixed.
So yeah my bad for using him as a example. You've got me there.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449919 is a reply to message #449918] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:42 |
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LOL - Well if you're so confident in your findings Xpert why are you so reluctant to show me?
You haven't proved jack, all you've done is chatted bare shit with nothing to back it up.
Hate - Thats how many games per month since its reset on a monthly basis? so yeah one of the months you will have a fat 0 but you'll also get that with Dippy, Elmo and others but thats cool cos they admin.
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Oh I can let go - once ive been proven without a doubt that im wrong.. If you can't do that then fucking rights ill keep on and on and on.. Why shouldn't I? Im not just gonna sit here and let you chat shit about me all day.
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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ
Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.
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| Re: Atomix [message #449921 is a reply to message #449920] |
Fri, 22 July 2011 14:43 |
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Hate - Thats how many games per month since its reset on a monthly basis?
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Yeah. Didn't you say you were afk for a month? 0 games in 1 month is enough, if you ask me.
Oh, and I've been around Atomix for quite some time, and can honestly say i didn't know "who you were" until the drama with you being demodded. I knew you were an admin/mod, but always figured you were a scripter/coder because I never saw you..
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