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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #441185 is a reply to message #440744] Thu, 09 December 2010 01:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #441203 is a reply to message #440744] Thu, 09 December 2010 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Question... if they're cheats because they give an unfair advantage... why can't that be mostly negated by allowing their use?
And yes, I know it can be modified to add worse stuff, but it's not hard to find them if you're really looking for them, as several members have proved.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #441216 is a reply to message #441203] Thu, 09 December 2010 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just buy a laptop and set it next to you main pc. Join the lap top as a second player, once its ingame put the Triggerbot™ on the laptop's k key. Now Join your main computer on the enemy team, this gives you 2 advantages:
1. Building bars are always displayed and don't take up space on screen which is important for your Rencombat.
2. Now the enemy team has a worthless player on it, this prevents them from being as good as your team, and surly be the winning factor for your team!

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Building bars are for pussies, who goes for tiny little displays on your screen that you have to squint at to actually see when you can simply have a full screen of all the info you'd ever need placed wherever you find most convenient.


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This system works great, I have 17 copies of ren and I join all 17 onto Jelly's main server, I can look anywhere in my home and see how close to being screwed my, or my enemies team is.


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Works great! I'll never go back to shaders.dll driven building bars!


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446378 is a reply to message #440746] Sat, 30 April 2011 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wiener wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 06:05


"Cheating in online games is an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others. "



So...............


if TT include Building bars in their release than it's no longer a cheat?
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446381 is a reply to message #440744] Sat, 30 April 2011 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it is a mandatory download for all players, correct.


Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446382 is a reply to message #446381] Sat, 30 April 2011 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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reborn wrote on Sat, 30 April 2011 05:38

If it is a mandatory download for all players, correct.

fucking logic, how does it work?


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446395 is a reply to message #440744] Sat, 30 April 2011 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Da fuck?


Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446438 is a reply to message #440746] Mon, 02 May 2011 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wiener wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 06:05


"Cheating in online games is an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others. "


Playing with lower resolution makes it easier to headshot people than with high resolution.
So people who play at low resolution are obviously cheating.
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446450 is a reply to message #446438] Mon, 02 May 2011 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MUDKIPS wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:15

Wiener wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 06:05


"Cheating in online games is an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others. "


Playing with lower resolution makes it easier to headshot people than with high resolution.
So people who play at low resolution are obviously cheating.


One aspect: anyone can do that if they want to.
Not everyone can use building bars. But only because they're banned practically everywhere.
If they were allowed, that (sarcastic) point of yours would make sense.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446594 is a reply to message #446450] Fri, 06 May 2011 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altzan wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 18:12


Not everyone can use building bars. But only because they're banned practically everywhere.

Building bars are allowed on all major servers, not sure where you're getting your information from.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446595 is a reply to message #446450] Fri, 06 May 2011 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altzan wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 09:12

MUDKIPS wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:15

Wiener wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 06:05


"Cheating in online games is an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others. "


Playing with lower resolution makes it easier to headshot people than with high resolution.
So people who play at low resolution are obviously cheating.


One aspect: anyone can do that if they want to.
Not everyone can use building bars. But only because they're banned practically everywhere.
If they were allowed, that (sarcastic) point of yours would make sense.


What major servers disallow building bars? And by major I mean servers that regularly sustain 16+ players.
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446603 is a reply to message #446595] Fri, 06 May 2011 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MUDKIPS wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 07:34

Altzan wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 09:12

MUDKIPS wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:15

Wiener wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 06:05


"Cheating in online games is an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others. "


Playing with lower resolution makes it easier to headshot people than with high resolution.
So people who play at low resolution are obviously cheating.


One aspect: anyone can do that if they want to.
Not everyone can use building bars. But only because they're banned practically everywhere.
If they were allowed, that (sarcastic) point of yours would make sense.


What major servers disallow building bars? And by major I mean servers that regularly sustain 16+ players.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446606 is a reply to message #446603] Fri, 06 May 2011 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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reborn wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 06:41

MUDKIPS wrote on Fri, 06 May 2011 07:34

Altzan wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 09:12

MUDKIPS wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:15

Wiener wrote on Sat, 04 December 2010 06:05


"Cheating in online games is an activity that modifies the game experience to give one player an advantage over others. "


Playing with lower resolution makes it easier to headshot people than with high resolution.
So people who play at low resolution are obviously cheating.


One aspect: anyone can do that if they want to.
Not everyone can use building bars. But only because they're banned practically everywhere.
If they were allowed, that (sarcastic) point of yours would make sense.


What major servers disallow building bars? And by major I mean servers that regularly sustain 16+ players.


MP-Gaming: APB official server


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #446610 is a reply to message #440744] Fri, 06 May 2011 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My mistake. I mainly meant the forums.

But I only frequent this one so all the others might allow them for all I know.

Anyhow, if someone asked me where to get them, I'd have no answer other than "ask someone else" because I have no idea. And this forum is no help to that, as everyone's aware.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447232 is a reply to message #440744] Sat, 14 May 2011 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a difference between a cheat and a modification.

A cheat is clearly intended to give you an unfair advantage, the player uses the cheat knowing this.

A skin or mod is used most of the time just for shits and gigs... or in the case of ren -

The game is old (really old), a few skins can make the game a lot more interesting.


Oh and bright green snipers = in the cheat category.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447248 is a reply to message #440744] Sun, 15 May 2011 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you have to be pretty fucking stupid to not know the difference between a cheat and modfication. And building bars are just a modification.

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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447249 is a reply to message #440744] Sun, 15 May 2011 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, a modification that gives you an ADVANTAGE of other players. My, I don't see how that could be a problem at all!
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447250 is a reply to message #440744] Sun, 15 May 2011 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What advantage? You can just press the J or K key...any decent playeer does that 5 times per second anyhow.

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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447254 is a reply to message #447250] Sun, 15 May 2011 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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iRANian wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 11:57

What advantage? You can just press the J or K key...any decent playeer does that 5 times per second anyhow.

J or K removes your battlefield awareness whereas BB's do not.


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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447259 is a reply to message #440744] Sun, 15 May 2011 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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for a split second if you press it like 5 times...just stop sucking dick at the game

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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447262 is a reply to message #440744] Sun, 15 May 2011 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So, if they don't give anyone an advantage, why does everyone want to install them? The only reason people install them is to gain an advantage over other players and cheat their way to victory.

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Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447278 is a reply to message #447262] Sun, 15 May 2011 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 11:38

So, if they don't give anyone an advantage, why does everyone want to install them? The only reason people install them is to gain an advantage over other players and cheat their way to victory.

Same reason why people like to upgrade their graphics cards.
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447336 is a reply to message #447278] Mon, 16 May 2011 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 13:03

danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 11:38

So, if they don't give anyone an advantage, why does everyone want to install them? The only reason people install them is to gain an advantage over other players and cheat their way to victory.

Same reason why people like to upgrade their graphics cards.


LOL WHAT?

actually in ren a higher resolution is a disadvantage LOL
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447353 is a reply to message #440744] Mon, 16 May 2011 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Indeed.
Re: How are building bars, cheats? [message #447429 is a reply to message #447336] Tue, 17 May 2011 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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MUDKIPS wrote on Mon, 16 May 2011 17:43

R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 13:03

danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 11:38

So, if they don't give anyone an advantage, why does everyone want to install them? The only reason people install them is to gain an advantage over other players and cheat their way to victory.

Same reason why people like to upgrade their graphics cards.


LOL WHAT?

actually in ren a higher resolution is a disadvantage LOL


bs... only when it comes to aiming which won't affect a decent player anyway.

I play with 1440 x 900 and often see things on the corner of my screen that 800x600 would never notice.



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