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| Input needed please [message #445674] |
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HaTe
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Player is Mobilest0rm
0:40 no tracer or sound in the kill shot, plus low health. Get used to seeing that.
1:17 Shows clouds next to his gun letting me know he was using cheats...how nice.
2:02 no sound or tracer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9KjBcEpuKU
0:28 What do you no, no sound or tracer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoSVeO-tgxg
0:10 See the pattern yet, I hope?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLybvzMnkgs
0:09 How interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-UuWjhRY_I
0:30 OOPS! Someone slipped up and spectate killed me. No tracer, no sound, and through the wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxP_FyFpvZg
0:12 Pause directly before I turn around, every single bullet hole is in the wall, yet he head shotted his target with more than 1 bullet, judging by his health.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtgRj8c2E8c
0:12 Dude, you're giving it away to much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiUlpiLsok
0:08 You get the picture.
0:53 Amusing how you always have tracers until you get low health, then your tracer goes missing and you never miss.
1:16 .
1:27 K.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldGot#p/u/7/YwOIx5MKA60
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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldGot#p/u/4/eNMi4WpNHWs
Might as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBFIFcmW00Y
Plenty of people realize it dude..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbKMRnpHvQ4
I know it's a lot to sort through, but I need your guys's thoughts on this. I personally see it as blatant cheating. These were all recorded in 2 games, in 10 minutes time.
I'm posting here because he is an admin at st0rm who st0rm seems to find innocent of cheats.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445683 is a reply to message #445674] |
Mon, 11 April 2011 23:28  |
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Spyder
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St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit.
Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!).
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445688 is a reply to message #445674] |
Tue, 12 April 2011 05:33 |
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cAmpa
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I joined the server like 5times in the last months, no 10 minutes and i got killed from Mr.IDONSHEETISWEAR.
I don't speak about any weird possible lag shots, i think the st0rm server is the best place to abuse for our cheat friends.
Bückstabü!
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445689 is a reply to message #445686] |
Tue, 12 April 2011 06:34 |
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Spyder
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| Wyld1USA wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 14:04 |
| Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 02:28 |
St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit.
Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!).
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Wow serious issues with you Spyder. You even know who the moderators are? I bet not. They don't care? LOL yeah you are a great source to know this. WTF is a asshole Community? What has your panties in such a wad about st0rm? Jealous that st0rm is a fun community where we all get a long and have a good base of regular players?
To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade.
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Apparently, you don't know me. I have contributed to the st0rm community in the past. There was no thank you or whatsoever, the only thing I got in return was a perma-ban until my ISP renewed my IP address.
These days I still join the server every now and then and nothing has changed. Still the same moderators (and yes, I DO know them).
Definition of an "asshole community": st0rm gaming
I heard Wilo say: "I want st0rm to become one of the biggest communities ???(renegade, world, something, can't remember exactly) has ever seen. Well, if he continues to play it like this, he is far from becoming what he desires.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445692 is a reply to message #445689] |
Tue, 12 April 2011 09:13 |
rebdog
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| Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 06:34 |
| Wyld1USA wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 14:04 |
| Spyder wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 02:28 |
St0rm is infested with these cheating fucktards. Half of the moderators is on cheating-acid and they don't care one single bit.
Wilo is king and if he wants his little minions to stay, they stay. Biggest asshole community I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot!).
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Wow serious issues with you Spyder. You even know who the moderators are? I bet not. They don't care? LOL yeah you are a great source to know this. WTF is a asshole Community? What has your panties in such a wad about st0rm? Jealous that st0rm is a fun community where we all get a long and have a good base of regular players?
To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade.
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Apparently, you don't know me. I have contributed to the st0rm community in the past. There was no thank you or whatsoever, the only thing I got in return was a perma-ban until my ISP renewed my IP address.
These days I still join the server every now and then and nothing has changed. Still the same moderators (and yes, I DO know them).
Definition of an "asshole community": st0rm gaming
I heard Wilo say: "I want st0rm to become one of the biggest communities ???(renegade, world, something, can't remember exactly) has ever seen. Well, if he continues to play it like this, he is far from becoming what he desires.
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if i remember correctly wasnt it your brother that ended up getting you perma banned after many many chances to change his attitude?
Anyway, i love reneDrama
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445694 is a reply to message #445692] |
Tue, 12 April 2011 09:48 |
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Spyder
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| rebdog wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 18:13 |
if i remember correctly wasnt it your brother that ended up getting you perma banned after many many chances to change his attitude?
Anyway, i love reneDrama
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He gave an IP ranged ban because of my brother. Then when I started using proxies he decided to ban me too for evading the IP ban.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445721 is a reply to message #445720] |
Tue, 12 April 2011 21:01 |
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Starbuzz
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Good job, HaTe.
It was quiet funny in the last video that once Mobile figured out I was frapsing his fucking cheating ass, he got spooked and never came to the air tunnel and less than 3 mins later, he leaves.
I was told last week [by a junior St0rm mod] that Mobilest0rm is "ADMIN OF ST0RM EUROPE" (HURR DURR KISS MY ASS WITH THAT TITLE) and that it will be suicidal to suggest he is cheating without proof.
| Wyld1USA wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 05:04 |
To all: we take cheaters very seriously and have the same issues that any other community has from time to time. If we have a cheating mod, it will get sorted. It has in the past and I know it has in other communities. I can speak to facts as I have been a part of most communities since the start of Renegade. [/b]
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Good to hear. So what will the powers-that-be at St0rm do now? In these videos, we have done a lot of the work for you already (which you should have been doing) and your man is not clean. Next move is yours, Wyld.
| rebdog wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 09:13 |
if i remember correctly wasnt it your brother that ended up getting you perma banned after many many chances to change his attitude?
Anyway, i love reneDrama
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I don't think the topic of a obvious cheater counts as "ReneDrama" tbh. Nice try, though.
Weren't you a mod of sorts at St0rm when you tried all kinds of xxxx in-game that was against the rules?
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445729 is a reply to message #445674] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 00:20 |
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Spyder
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The sad thing about this is:
- Mobilest0rm calls himself one of the veteran snipers on st0rm and it's years of skill instead of hacks.
- He's been playing on st0rm for a long time and he's a mod there, so he will probably just kiss Wilo's ass a few times and everything's settled.
- Our opinions don't matter (because they're not posted on the st0rm forums afaik). If St0rm doesn't think it's ROF or any other hack, he remains unbanned, because they don't ban because a person has been banned from other servers (for the same damn reason).
- Admin of St0rm Europe? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL! ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS?
Really, don't expect anything to happen even though we all know he's hacking. The same happened to rebdog if I'm not mistaken. A while back he got banned for cheating or something, but after a few weeks he was playing on the server again.
Conclusion: Cheating on st0rm is good, telling the moderators to do their jobs is bad.
Let me tell you the reason why st0rm kept on banning my brother (and me, ip bans all the time).
My brother hates hackers, so do most of us. Now st0rm has this "nifty", read useless, command called !requestmod. With this you can inform in-game moderators about certain people cheating their asses off. This system is supposed to make the moderator's job less difficult, which it does, because 99% of the time they just ignore it.
My brother got sick of them ignoring the !requestmod message's. By that time, he knew precisely who was a moderator and who wasn't. I think he even knew their ranks (moderator, admin, head admin etc.). So whenever they didn't respond, he just sent them a PM. Then the mods always started ranting in ways as: "Get off my back", "He's not cheating, trust me." etc.
The "He's not cheating, trust me"-line always pissed off my brother. It's their job to check it out, but they never checked anything out. So then he started sending more PM's like: "I don't care what you think, it's your job as a moderator to check out the situation.".
Then there was always this little prick called "Tiny" (something to do with the size of his dick), who was reading each and every PM from my brother to the mods. He then started ranting and bitching in public from IRC. This included threatening with bans, perma bans, mutes and a lot more.
Even though my brother never cursed at the moderators and always kept things formal, they got so pissed off that each and every time the mods started fueling the fire by cursing at him and threatening him with mutes. Then my brother usually started giving them a summary of what was going on in-game. The things the moderator's weren't doing, like answering mod requests, checking out situations, being friendly to the players and some more. Whenever he started saying this, they got offended.
They started adding more fuel to the fire and every time there were some more players who got involved. I did too, telling people to "Shut the hell up and discuss this in private". Whenever I did this the mods told me to "Stay out of it and mind my own business". When I told them "No", they'd mute me for not obeying their orders.
Then the argument between my brother and the mods went on and on, until eventually, the moderators realized that my brother was actually right and that they were not going to win this argument. When they realized this, they always "felt necessary" to ban our IP for (24 hours, a week, a month, permanently).
This happened each and every time we joined st0rm. There were even moderators who started challenging my brother as soon as he got in-game. People told him: "Pirate, I hate your personality. You're an asshole.", even though he was right and the mods were wrong.
For me, st0rm is just a sad, sad community. I suggest we all stop playing there from this day on, they don't deserve it to have a Renegade server.
Actually, it's not really a Renegade server. They are the ones who raped the game with their !backup, !turret, !b rail etc.
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445744 is a reply to message #445721] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 05:43 |
rebdog
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| Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 12 April 2011 21:01 |
Weren't you a mod of sorts at St0rm when you tried all kinds of xxxx in-game that was against the rules?
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I dont know where you got that from, maybe your thinking of something/someone else. If i did anything it would be getting in the bridge and calling backup inside it just for lols.
Plus i never said that i didnt think something was wrong with his shots.
I tested something of my own here you go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zbziadlxHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCecMn4fqA
tbh i think its very possible that he could have used something like this above or rof
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445746 is a reply to message #445735] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 08:15 |
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Wyld1USA
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| Spyder wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 03:20 |
The sad thing about this is:
- Mobilest0rm calls himself one of the veteran snipers on st0rm and it's years of skill instead of hacks.
- He's been playing on st0rm for a long time and he's a mod there, so he will probably just kiss Wilo's ass a few times and everything's settled.
- Our opinions don't matter (because they're not posted on the st0rm forums afaik). If St0rm doesn't think it's ROF or any other hack, he remains unbanned, because they don't ban because a person has been banned from other servers (for the same damn reason).
- Admin of St0rm Europe? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL! ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS?
Really, don't expect anything to happen even though we all know he's hacking. The same happened to rebdog if I'm not mistaken. A while back he got banned for cheating or something, but after a few weeks he was playing on the server again.
Conclusion: Cheating on st0rm is good, telling the moderators to do their jobs is bad.
Let me tell you the reason why st0rm kept on banning my brother (and me, ip bans all the time).
My brother hates hackers, so do most of us. Now st0rm has this "nifty", read useless, command called !requestmod. With this you can inform in-game moderators about certain people cheating their asses off. This system is supposed to make the moderator's job less difficult, which it does, because 99% of the time they just ignore it.
My brother got sick of them ignoring the !requestmod message's. By that time, he knew precisely who was a moderator and who wasn't. I think he even knew their ranks (moderator, admin, head admin etc.). So whenever they didn't respond, he just sent them a PM. Then the mods always started ranting in ways as: "Get off my back", "He's not cheating, trust me." etc.
The "He's not cheating, trust me"-line always pissed off my brother. It's their job to check it out, but they never checked anything out. So then he started sending more PM's like: "I don't care what you think, it's your job as a moderator to check out the situation.".
Then there was always this little prick called "Tiny" (something to do with the size of his dick), who was reading each and every PM from my brother to the mods. He then started ranting and bitching in public from IRC. This included threatening with bans, perma bans, mutes and a lot more.
Even though my brother never cursed at the moderators and always kept things formal, they got so pissed off that each and every time the mods started fueling the fire by cursing at him and threatening him with mutes. Then my brother usually started giving them a summary of what was going on in-game. The things the moderator's weren't doing, like answering mod requests, checking out situations, being friendly to the players and some more. Whenever he started saying this, they got offended.
They started adding more fuel to the fire and every time there were some more players who got involved. I did too, telling people to "Shut the hell up and discuss this in private". Whenever I did this the mods told me to "Stay out of it and mind my own business". When I told them "No", they'd mute me for not obeying their orders.
Then the argument between my brother and the mods went on and on, until eventually, the moderators realized that my brother was actually right and that they were not going to win this argument. When they realized this, they always "felt necessary" to ban our IP for (24 hours, a week, a month, permanently).
This happened each and every time we joined st0rm. There were even moderators who started challenging my brother as soon as he got in-game. People told him: "Pirate, I hate your personality. You're an asshole.", even though he was right and the mods were wrong.
For me, st0rm is just a sad, sad community. I suggest we all stop playing there from this day on, they don't deserve it to have a Renegade server.
Actually, it's not really a Renegade server. They are the ones who raped the game with their !backup, !turret, !b rail etc.
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Wow Spyder that is a lot. I can tell your issues are with the situation with you and your brother and what ever happened then. Sorry though your situation does not correlate to the one with Mobile. But I wish you good luck in dealing with those past evils.
Again HaTe's claims are being taken seriously and if the proof is conclusive, action will be taken. I have seen it taken at st0rm when past mods have been caught. Wilo even posted himself stating that Mobile will not get special protections or treatments.
Any comments that mods just allow cheating and we ignore modrequests is absurd and just stupid to say. We ignore stupid ones and of course no one would know what a mod is doing from a valid modrequest so naturally peeps would think nothing is done.
Oh and Spyder you may know a few Renegade Council members and admins, but 80% of the actual mod staff that guards the servers have been mods for 6 months or less, so you don't know most of them.
I find it typical of this situation which every 6 months or so someone is accusing a mod or admin of a community of cheating and the subsequent rage toward the entire community, the owner, the families of the mod staff, their dogs, cars, home, eating habits, etc. which includes the surfacing of old conflicts such as the one with Spyder.
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 04:00 |
Call me stupid, but why does everyone seem to play on St0rm and at the same time complaining that they are cheating fags?
I've heard this many, many times, so ...
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LOL Thanks for this EWD. I fully agree.
"Who cares what people think, it is what you know." "Feel the Love."
~Original Demo Player~
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| Re: Input needed please [message #445752 is a reply to message #445751] |
Wed, 13 April 2011 12:07 |
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HaTe
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Jerad, we have already established that tracers cannot be visible due to lag. Sound is ALWAYS there with a legit player so long as he's not glitching as well, and muzzle flash will also be there 99% if the time.
I don't think that a lot of people at st0rm hack, i think that a lot of people accuse people at st0rm all the time because a lot of players at st0rm are nothing more than whiners.I just hate how some mods claim to be so against cheaters there, yet there are a few right under their noses that they are too arrogant to notice.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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