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Re: SEO [message #444444 is a reply to message #444337] |
Mon, 28 February 2011 11:03 |
newcheese
Messages: 24 Registered: June 2004
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I'm interested in this subject as well.
I know HTML/CSS/PHP/jQuery/Javascript but it's all useless if you don't know SEO. And I don't know SEO! I don't think that viral marketing is a realistic method of getting your site attention either (unless your product is really that good).
What I do know, however, is that there's a website (for which you need membership, for a cost) that has a monthly newsletter about SEO. It provides updates on what SEO experts think search algorithms look like, so you can constantly update your site to match predicted algorithm modifications. I'll hook you up with a link soon, I need to get to class.
SEO's an art. Wish I knew more!
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Re: SEO [message #444490 is a reply to message #444337] |
Tue, 01 March 2011 07:55 |
a000clown
Messages: 363 Registered: May 2005 Location: Canada
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While I agree with what you're saying, seo and following web accessibility guidelines shouldn't be confused. They do compliment each other in certain areas but the objectives of the two are different.
What I meant to say was I don't believe following seo best-practices offers a huge benefit in terms of getting your site's pagerank a higher score. It's nice to follow if it's not too much trouble, but if it requires more effort I think your time would be better spent creating unique content rather than messing with markup.
Web accessibility is a lot more important than seo, imo, as it widens your audience in a tangible way.
A common misconception about web accessibility is that many think it deals exclusively with people who have disabilities, which isn't true. Yes, this is a major part of it, but accessibility also deals with making your site usable cross-browser and cross-platform, including mobile devices which is an extremely popular and fast growing market right now.
In short, your site should offer the same or similar usability to anyone, regardless of their disabilities, software or hardware choices.
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Re: SEO [message #444492 is a reply to message #444490] |
Tue, 01 March 2011 08:44 |
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EvilWhiteDragon
Messages: 3751 Registered: October 2005 Location: The Netherlands
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a000clown wrote on Tue, 01 March 2011 15:55 | While I agree with what you're saying, seo and following web accessibility guidelines shouldn't be confused. They do compliment each other in certain areas but the objectives of the two are different.
What I meant to say was I don't believe following seo best-practices offers a huge benefit in terms of getting your site's pagerank a higher score. It's nice to follow if it's not too much trouble, but if it requires more effort I think your time would be better spent creating unique content rather than messing with markup.
Web accessibility is a lot more important than seo, imo, as it widens your audience in a tangible way.
A common misconception about web accessibility is that many think it deals exclusively with people who have disabilities, which isn't true. Yes, this is a major part of it, but accessibility also deals with making your site usable cross-browser and cross-platform, including mobile devices which is an extremely popular and fast growing market right now.
In short, your site should offer the same or similar usability to anyone, regardless of their disabilities, software or hardware choices.
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While you're certainly not wrong, I must add that SEO in general has to do with the document structure and information. The mobile parts should be done by CSS and the likes, like creating a print.css (or similar, not sure here) for printing.
As for the cross-platform thing, if one writes valid HTML in the first place it's not too hard to make it work on all platforms. Maybe one needs to apply some (very) small hacks for a platform, but in general it's working OK'ish. Of course IE6 and to lesser extend 7 are pretty bad, but more and more companies are dropping support for IE6 hacks anyway.
Even with the "bad" HTML parsing in IE6, it usually still renders a page that is readable. Perhaps not pretty, but that is not as important as readable.
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Re: SEO [message #444526 is a reply to message #444337] |
Wed, 02 March 2011 01:27 |
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Goztow
Messages: 9738 Registered: March 2005 Location: Belgium
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From my experience, google's algorythm is made to retrieve most sites (bar 100 % image / flash of course). I do some web devellopment myself and i never had a website that wasn't retrieved by google after a few hours / days. Bear in mind that I do place a link on a rather popular site immediately after release, to speed up this process.
The unique content of the website will allow people to retrieve your website easier, simply because there's less other sites that offer the same. Example: I created a site for medical elections, names it medicalelections.<domain> and it was almost immediately the 2nd or 3rd in the list on google. However, when I created one for a polyclinic, it was way harder to nail the website down with logical keyword simply because there are 1.000s of polyclinics in Belgium. However, when one went looking for the name of a doctor working in this polyclinic, the site came up first in the results.
SEO might just give you an extra edge in a competitive environment, but I'm with clown on this one.
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