| Electrical Outlets [message #441403] |
Sun, 12 December 2010 23:08  |
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Anyone here a electrician? I have a few questions about outlets and water and maybe a few other electric related questions, for example, my friends family had a normal 8 outlet socket with all these Christmas lights plugged in and it was full of water form rain (none if it was waterproof) but nothing happened, since its a socket shouldn't it burn out or something? when I read up about electrical sockets getting wet I have read that it can blow out the whole room/house power if its not a socket that has its own mini circuit breaker, while other say you will get shocked or start a fire, can someone kinda give me the basics about this please? or a link to a site that can explain?
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #441416 is a reply to message #441405] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 03:04  |
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| jnz wrote on Sun, 12 December 2010 23:23 |
It depends on how it gets wet, and how much water. A little moisture might cause it to short circuit, but would probably not cause any circuit breaker/fuses to blow. While on the other hand, a immerse it in water and it is very likely.
A socket on it's own should not cause a fire/explode or anything spectacular when it is short circuited as the fuse/breaker should kick in before any of the electrical components supplying the socket would fail. Anything after the socket IE: Christmas lights, could cause a fire if it isn't fused properly.
If you are lucky enough to be grounded (touching neutral or a computer case for example) it is quite likely a wet socket will shock you. If you are not grounded, it will probably just tingle.
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well when i saw the sockets they were really wet, alot, and what do you mean by grounded?
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #441436 is a reply to message #441420] |
Mon, 13 December 2010 11:45 |
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| Caveman wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 03:30 |
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I love wikipedia but I hear sometimes shits made up, anyways thanks but I am still wondering how come nothing happened when it was soaked in water due to rsin
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #441504 is a reply to message #441403] |
Wed, 15 December 2010 00:01 |
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Basic chemistry lesson time:
Water is actually not conductive. It's a rather good insulator, in fact. The reason why it is so bad to get electronics wet is because there are usually all sorts of fun things dissolved in the water which are very good conductors. You fill up a tub with distilled water and drop a toaster in it and all you'd get is a wet toaster. Tap water, on the other hand, is rather more dangerous to mix with electric anything as it tends to pick up minerals from the pipes it flows through, seepage from ground water, and so on. Rainwater's ability to cook your shit depends entirely on how dirty the air is; the rain will pick it all up on its way down to you.
Translation: if you live in an area with very clean air, a bit of rain water might not necessarily be a trip to short-out city- especially if the electric goodies in question were up off the ground where water is less likely to pool and pick up contaminants from the ground.
If it still works, dry it out and it should be fine. Just don't count on it always being that way.
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #441644 is a reply to message #441403] |
Sun, 19 December 2010 01:27 |
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #441661 is a reply to message #441403] |
Sun, 19 December 2010 13:59 |
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I wish I could take a pic but it was somewhere far, all I know is it was soaked in water its outside not touching ground but been raining for a week
does anyone got a site to discuss the basics of this?
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #441663 is a reply to message #441662] |
Sun, 19 December 2010 14:11 |
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| Herr Surth wrote on Sun, 19 December 2010 13:07 |
| (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 12:45 |
| Caveman wrote on Mon, 13 December 2010 03:30 |
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but I hear sometimes shits made up
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What I mean is wiki can be edited by anyone so I try not to use them as a absolute source
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #442596 is a reply to message #442589] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 11:50 |
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| Caveman wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 07:58 |
I know this is a bit off topic but I just need to ask...
You didnt know what grounding meant... Haven't you been playing around with the inside of computers recently?
If so; Did you ground yourself then?
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Well I know its a bad habit of mine , when I learn something I go more into it sometimes skipping the basics, but I had an idea of what it was, I just wanted to be sure about it
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #442604 is a reply to message #442602] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 13:05 |
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| Caveman wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 11:41 |
But did you ground yourself while playing around with the insides of the computer?
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Honestly I am not sure if I did correctly in the past, I usually unplug it, touch the metal frame and sit down while I do it (usually floor or chair, most of times with shoes on) But now I purchase something that wraps around my wrist and attached to anything metal "case" to prevent shock or static
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #442638 is a reply to message #441403] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 02:03 |
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Erm, you should NEVER EVER leave the PSU plugged into the wall when working on a computer, unless you want to be electrocuted. Besides, the electrical 'ground' in your house wiring may actually be carrying a small level of voltage, since part of it's purpose is to dissipate stray voltage from faulty wiring.
Grounding yourself to the same level as the metal in the computer case is perfectly acceptable as a grounding method since that's the same metal case the components in your PC are grounded to anyway.
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #442640 is a reply to message #442639] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 03:38 |
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| Caveman wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 01:11 |
I was always taught (while in college) to leave it plugged in but switched off at the socket. I've never been electrocuted. If you know different then I retract my statement. If its not plugged in it has nothing to ground to?
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well don't listen to me, I was just following what I thought was common sense, I will be taking your advice.
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| Re: Electrical Outlets [message #442646 is a reply to message #442638] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 04:32 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 10:03 |
Erm, you should NEVER EVER leave the PSU plugged into the wall when working on a computer, unless you want to be electrocuted. Besides, the electrical 'ground' in your house wiring may actually be carrying a small level of voltage, since part of it's purpose is to dissipate stray voltage from faulty wiring.
Grounding yourself to the same level as the metal in the computer case is perfectly acceptable as a grounding method since that's the same metal case the components in your PC are grounded to anyway.
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Electrocuted by 12v? LOL.
Only when you open up a PSU you'd be in danger, but since computer PSU's have such a nice and safe casing, there is no need to worry.
And even still, 230v will probably not kill you, although it does feel strange.
Also, the ground wire in your house is really 0v if properly grounded. If this is not the case, there is something very, very very, wrong and you might get yourself electrocuted under the shower once. (water and 230v does kill btw..)
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