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Spoony
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| simpee wrote |
have you not played pointfix lately? the better med tank driver is clearly the one who shoots the buildings the most
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and the one who gets to shoot the buildings the most is the one who stays alive the longest when the enemy is coming at you with tanks and infantry, if you haven't figured that out
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Yes, it is something to laugh at. It's fucking hilarious. To say Spoony is in the top 5 is even a stretch. Spoony was never a top 3 player, and still isn't. He was inactive throughout most of clanwar history. Just because he's played 500 public server games in the last couple months, and lead a few groups of noobs to victory against another group of noobs without a good leader, doesn't mean he magically became the best. See, Pubs actually make you rusty because you get used to raping retards instead of someone who can actually dodge a bullet. You then get a false sense of accomplishment and start believing that you're #1. Then some actually skilled players come along, and end up showing whats up.
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this is not quite as dumb as what you said before, i.e. focusing entirely on MVP, but it's still almost entirely guesswork, isn't it?
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Hitman is better then Spoony, there's no doubt about that. Hitman makes a bigger difference for his team in a lobby game then Spoony does. Hitman should be in the running for #1 right now. He might not of lead a community war, but he can still show up for a series and rape all. Spoony's best skills are his leadership abilities, but they're not good enough to make him #1 player in the game.
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again, this is all theory.
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PS clanwars might not be dead if Spoony didn't ban the top competition over a personal beef. Spoony killed clanwars, then came over here and started talking about how we're all a bunch of cheating lying retards and he's the best now. He also said 'clanwars died because I quit playing' LOL!
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wow, whiskey. that really is pathetic. i wouldn't expect you to sink THAT low, though plenty of other people have.
firstly, the ban on simpee and clearshot was completely legitimate. nobody ever debunked that. nobody wants to admit just how badly everyone lost that argument, they still pretend it never happened.
secondly, simpee and clearshot were not only given an enormous number of warnings before the ban, they were also given a way out of it, just by a simple apology - which they owe to me a dozen times over.
the price seemed to be too high.
thirdly, to say "spoony killed clanwars" is ridiculous to begin with, given it would've died a very long time ago without me, and it carried on being dead until i returned to renegade, even though you had a league (my league) to use. everyone could've used it recently too, and simpee and clearshot were unbanned then. there was even a choice of whether to use the dumbass point mod or not. still, nobody wants to use it. a simple, unbiased look at the facts demonstrates "spoony killed clanwars" to be a tendentious lie.
fourthly, "started talking about how we're all lying cheating retards". it obviously pains you a great deal to admit that everything i've said about the clanwars community, and their innumerable faults, has been true. otherwise, you wouldn't need to pretend i said things i didn't even say.
fifthly, the league could've carried on being fine without clear and simpee, just like it was fine before they came back to it. if you remember, they initially refused to play in the league because of the pointsfix - they'd rather play against loki in tempozia's server, if you recall. TC could've carried on playing actively, but i was so disgusted by the extraordinarily pathetic behaviour of the clanwars community that i just decided not to stick around and do them any more favours.
sixthly, do you even know what the word "ban" means in this context? to say "spoony banned simpee from clanwars" is much better phrased as "spoony has decided not to host a clanwars league for simpee". if you're angry at me for that, you ought to be absolutely furious at everyone else on renegade who also doesn't host a league for simpee, especially given the fact that he probably doesn't go quite so far to attack them as he does me, for no provocation.
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Kill does play, just not 25/8. He'll play when a competitive match comes up and I ask him, and when he does play, he rapes.
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i wasn't aware kill still played. the only time i've seen him play lately was the renforums vs jelly, in which - and i don't want to be overly mean to him, since i have no problem with him - he was the worst player on the renforums team.
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Did you guys read the thread or did I had to put "NOWADAYS" in caps?
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We know its about nowadays, and Spoony still isn't #1.
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actually, it took a very long time to get people to realise that we were talking about "nowadays". maybe you weren't paying much attention to the thread.
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Remember this is peoples opinions. Its Spoony's opinion that he's #1, and we knew Spoony was arrogant before but this is a whole new level, even for him. When a public server raper claims they're #1, of course the real clanwar players are going to show up and argue that point (and in Hitmans case, own him a few games for good measure)
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show up? anyone could have found me in publics or commwars. commwars especially, since i've been so active in encouraging them. and these lobbywars, who's been pushing for them? partly me, as you know.
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Hitman even challenged Spoony to a true test of individual skill - a CLANWAR, but Spoony has no interest in that. He prefers comm wars - the last commwar that I lead Cw.CC vs RenForums, 6v6, we steam-rolled them with Spoony leading.
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that wasn't a commwar, that was a practice. i'd had some very serious difficulty getting a few of the renforums regulars to actually get the idea that they have to do what the leader says. they know now.
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Then when RGCT2 happened, the only reason RenForums beat Jelly was because Spoony pm'd Me and Kill to play for him (At the time I was probably more a member of the Jelly community, and Kill didn't even have a registered name here). Not very sportsmanlike Spoon, stacking your team to make sure you beat a group of noobs with no leader. You must of been proud. Even the Jelly players were upset about it and made that known.
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this is phenomenally stupid.
kill was, as i've said, the worst player on the renforums team. you were not exceptional, though you didn't disappoint like kill did. i really mean that, and i said so at the time.
the only reason renforums beat jelly? that really is arrogance. we'd beaten them before without you and kill. i did pm you because we were short a couple, i didn't even know kill was on. that was your idea, but skew the facts as much as you feel you need to. it never occurred to me that there was the slightest "stacking" going on. we beat jelly thanks to better organisation, end of story.
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Not to mention using a few lousy lobbywar games with questionable standards of testing a player's skill being used to trump over 1+ year of solid gameplay evidence that was Spoony's record? It's always easy to dismiss this as "raping pubs." wow.
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1+ year of solid gameplay evidence? What evidence? He's a good leader and lead RenForums to victory, in a tournament that didn't even include clanwars?
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i was hoping clanwars would participate.
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Congratulations on that, but that doesn't prove he's the best individual player in the game. A top leader, yes. Us actual clanwar players, have 6+ years solid evidence to go on. When things were truly competitive, Spoony wasn't active. Now that clanwars is dead thanks to him, he now believes its safe to claim king of the pub noobs, but sorry mate, it wasn't safe, and now clanwars is here to clean up this mess.
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again, this is really low of you.
it is true i wasn't very active over the last few years, which might have something to with why i never said i was the best player.
already gone over the "clanwars is dead thanks to him", it's extremely pathetic of you to say that and frankly you owe me an apology
"believes it's safe to claim king of the pub noobs". wow. you think i give a shit whether me giving my honest opinion would make simpee and hitman as angry as it did?
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Could anyone of the lying thieving backstabbing Brutuses and Barabasses we have seen in this thread lead a team of unknown players to victory against well-established teams?
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Yes we could, and have
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when?
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woa wow? I truly cannot BELIEVE you don't know what he meant, Whiskey?...obviously the best light tank player in the game as well as the best mlr player in the game.
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lmao I got that part, I just find it funny someone can claim to be over and above everyone else with a MRLS. MRLS are very easy to drive and handle, and once you know how to properly use one, thats about as far as it gets. Every higher level clanwar player is good in a MRLS.
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that's not true at all, some people consistently get sixml's and some don't.
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As for light tank, Spoony's been claiming that for years, but I haven't seen anything different about Spoony's light compared to any other high-level player.
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really? nobody gets more headshots with a light than i do. i thought you might have noticed that on volcano when you couldn't get into the powerplant, nor could anyone else. it would've died thanks to that if someone wasn't fortunate enough to spawn on there.
you know, i never really liked playing cityfly 2v2 because i always liked being the light. the light, not the lightsak. shot down orcas all the time, and we're talking about clanwars here, not public servers.
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One game I clearly remember on City_Fly: I was with a Orca all game specifically hunting Spoony but he kept persisting with his light tank/sak. He was raping the PP/Barr over and over and singlehandedly won the game for Nod with pointslead when the rest couldn't have been bothered. I hope you know what a "best light" is now.
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That proves it! You're 100% absolutely right. Spoony, I now crown you best Light and best player, in Ren & Life. You won a map on a pub server all by yourself, awesome! You're a big boy now.
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do you think this makes your argument stronger or weaker?
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a med driver who can hs inf and kill vehs like a pr0 > than a med tank driver who can hs inf, kill vehs like a pr0 and lead other med tanks in a grand game of in-game strategy to give GDI the win?
wow mate. I disagree.
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Any top level clanwar player can and does do that. We played organized games for 6 years, you think we can't lead a match? Come on now noob, you're making yourself look silly
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so why don't so many of them?
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Lol well if ya can't see what's wrong with the need to defend yourself for 20 pages because some herpderp from the other side of the internet lies or thinks hes better than you, or whatever it is, then i can't help you.
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no you can't, because it becomes inexplicable why your posts were directed at me instead of, say, hitman
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in all honesty spoony was quite a good player back in the day from what i remember (i was like 14 or 15) clanwars changed more than he realised when he stopped playing tho. its alot more about quick thinking and improvising based on what ur teammate has told u than it is leadership and everyone having their "roles".
a few things i remember from back then was that the snipers on city fly would ALWAYS go on the bridge in anything bigger than a 2v2, everyone on nod walls fly would ALWYAS buy a tank after first harv dump and try rush gdi (would never work thesedays) APC,s were rarely bought even though they are better than meds in alot of situations.
but yeah spoony didnt play when EF and h2o started raping shit. the game changed, u werent there
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i think you're a bit confused. i did play, i just didn't play fanatically often.
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, thats what hitman means when he says "ur basic" and thats why i get annoyed everytime we would have a pointfix debate and u say something stupid like "you dont understand the game as much as i do". brah, i understand it better than you.
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then how do we explain the fact that were proven wrong such a STAGGERING number of times (not to mention the number of times you were caught lying), whereas you never disproved a single word i said?
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441126 is a reply to message #439171] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 10:31 |
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regardless of how much you played, u didnt adapt and u always sitkc to the predictable oldschool style.
also keep telling urself u won every pointfix argument, all i saw was u making points that u were unwilling to test out ingame whenever i asked. i think its funny how u want infinite ammo on all infantry now because pointfix makes infantry too weak but u wont admit that. also if u want to help balence tech arts better on pointfix u can remove that ridiculous mod that makes the arty turret spin 3 times as fast as it originally did
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441127 is a reply to message #441126] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 10:41 |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Wed, 08 December 2010 11:31 |
also keep telling urself u won every pointfix argument
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yeah, given the enormous number of times you were COMPLETELY TOTALLY W-R-O-N-G, and given the fact you never debunked a word i said.
also, if you try to lie to win an argument and you get caught, you lose. you never figured that out, it never seemed to bother you at all when you were caught lying through your teeth, as you did in every single argument.
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all i saw was u making points that u were unwilling to test out ingame whenever i asked.
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still trying to lie about that, are you? i suppose i shouldn't expect any better
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i think its funny how u want infinite ammo on all infantry now because pointfix makes infantry too weak but u wont admit that.
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is there even a shred of honesty in your brain, simpee? just the tiniest shred?
you must have thought infantry were too weak even before the pointsfix, cos i never saw you using anything besides a sak. tanks are more powerful, especially given their cost, though infantry would be able to seriously contribute to holding the field if they could actually stay there long enough to do any damage and stay alive.
so i think the situation can be improved by letting them have the same ammo amount tanks do; your solution is to MAKE THEM GET POINTS FOR ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL. you're the one with the explaining to do here, and you still haven't done it. you certainly never explained why i should install your BOLLOCK-BRAINEDLY-STUPID point mod in clanwars. getting points by shooting stuff you don't damage? WHAT THE FUCK? how can you advocate that without embarrasment?
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also if u want to help balence tech arts better on pointfix u can remove that ridiculous mod that makes the arty turret spin 3 times as fast as it originally did
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maybe, plus the TT patch is also (supposed to) mean splash damage is somewhat absorbed by solid objects.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441128 is a reply to message #441060] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 10:53 |
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| Tunaman wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 16:05 |
| JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:31 |
i got a question in this gay thread: did shotguner ever get busted for cheating? thats the only guy i ever called a cheater that i don't remember getting caught
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yeah that guy cheated, dunno if he got caught though but he would admit it
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thank you tuna, you've always been a friend in my time of need
wiskey i like your mma analogies, it makes sense to invoke a gay sport in a gay thread
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441135 is a reply to message #441128] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 11:14 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:31 |
i got a question in this gay thread: did shotguner ever get busted for cheating? thats the only guy i ever called a cheater that i don't remember getting caught
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soul and helldoom didn't.
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