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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441041 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 12:51 |
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just let your ingame skill talk, not all the bullshit u write here spoonerd, you have never ever proven to be better than anyone here on this forum so im quite willing to play u some games and get to the bottom of this, just to hurt the ego u developed
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441046 is a reply to message #439178] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 13:49 |
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I didn't know if I wanted to post again in here, but hey, its entertaining.
Spoony wrote on Wed, 10 November 2010 13:28 | dare i say... me? lol
other than that, mike's very good, and that yuri1990 (might be getting the numbers wrong) who plays at jelly
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We think Spoony was drunk and just finished a MVP*4 @ noobstories when he wrote that. In the morning he woke up and was like, 'ah fuck i wrote that? Well, I can't back down now', so basically the thread will continue on now no matter what, forever or until players stop questioning it. I like the idea of letting the games do the talking, but even that ended with excuses (We weren't 8vs6 all game on volcano or any other game. It was 8vs8 on my screen, and maybe you had a few go afk during the games, but who knows or can really prove that. Who knows how many were afk on my team. You still had 6 people to repair the airstrip including yourself.)
You're a hypocrit for claiming we're all making excuses, then the next page comes along after you just lost a series, and you're making excuses too.
Not sure if Spoony ever did team sports growing up, but I did and still do, and, in sports, the best still never claims themselves as best. It makes everyone dislike you, and then analyze every single move you make. You think thats odd? I thought it was common sense. True champions never talk with an ego like that. Unless you're Floyd Money Mayweather, or a heel who uses that to purposely make people dislike him for more PPV buys. Brock Lesnar did something similar recently in UFC. He made everyone hate him by claiming he was the best, and people went crazy buying PPV's to see him get beat up. Eventually he was exposed and knocked out, sort of like whats happening here.
Since we will be starting to have lobby wars every weekend after this one, there will be plenty of games for (the people who care) to prove how goog they are. Since Spoony cares enough to claim he's #1, he better start backing it up soon, because so far all you've been showing us are statistics about how many comm-wars you've won, and funny claims like 'best mrl' and 'best light' lol. How do you have a 'best mrl' lol, that one always makes me giggle.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441048 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:05 |
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Quote: | not only is spoony the best player, he is also a better sniper than me even tho half of clanwars thought i cheated my ass off when i sniped
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do you ever stop lying? what's with this metamorphosis into simpee?
i never said i was a better sniper than you. i never said my sniping was all that exceptional.
Quote: | only thing i remember from that walls fly game was me killing 3 of your teams sakura's, u got lucky a couple of times over the last year and now you think your real good
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it's true i wasn't the sniper at the beginning of wallsfly, someone else said he would and i usually prefer being a light or apache anyway. it's also true you killed our sniper, i'm not sure how many times, but maybe 3. then i get a sak - because it doesn't look like our sniper is getting the job done - and kill you. lucky? call it that if it makes you feel better. and no, i don't think i'm "real good" at sniping. if i did, i'd probably do it more often. i do it only when it seems necessary, which isn't often.
but all this was a response to you saying "your inf is so bad my little sister who never played ren could beat you". well, again, if this makes you feel better about getting sniped on wallsfly, you're welcome to it. i don't say my pistol or sniper is exceptional, but it doesn't seem too bad... certainly not as bad as you just said, but you're obviously a long way away from thinking straight.
Quote: | just like u think your all that now because u've been raping public people for way to long without anyone good around to match your amount of renegade dedication to win every pub game
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and here's the excuse you were making before we even played the lobbywars. again, it's obvious you just can't handle how much better i am than you in public-style games. "to match your amount of renegade dedication"? i play the way i like to play. you want to snipe all game without caring whether the team wins? fine, have fun, but don't be surprised if you aren't considered the best player because of it.
Quote: | many people have told me that i was the better player in TC and that was after that topic YOU made which u bring up nearly every post u make
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wow, hitman, you make a bucket of pigshit look intelligent. why do i have to keep repeating something really simple?
the only reason i bring it up is to point out that you're completely changing not just your current opinion but all your previous ones too.
simple: you said that i was always better than you in clanwars. now you say you were always better than me. i really don't give a shit who was better, i'm just pointing out the fact that you were either lying then, or you've completely lost your mind now. i'm betting it's the second option.
so many people told you you were better than me in TC. fine. you disagreed with them.
Quote: | sure enough things concerning your ego trip will become far worse and soon you will say something among the lines of "i was the key to succes in every single clan i have been in" lol
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do you ever get tired of lying? is the fact that you can't refute anything i say hitting you SO HARD that you feel you have to make up things i never said?
Quote: | i didnt need u to beat the best clans out there, but please do call me a pathological liar
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yes, i do call you a liar, but only because you've been conclusively caught lying in this thread, and you're still doing it. i never called you a liar before, never had a reason to.
Quote: | and dont even talk about "you and i" please i rather not be mentioned in the same sentence as you anymore
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i'm equally astonished at just how far off the deep end you're going right now, but i might as well have brought up our success in 2v2s if it's a counterargument to you saying how terrible a player i am. if this is the best rebuttal you've got, that's good to know.
[quote]and dont twist my words spoonerd, what i said in that topic was EXACTLY this: " sniper: simpee, hitman and spoony has sur. question was best sniper and you named me. i didn't say you put me top, i said you named me.
Quote: | and if my judgement is clouded, then so is yours, u put nunega in top 5 on that list while he was absolutely overrated, but u probably didnt see that since u were to busy trying to keep simpee/clear off which were his teammates ALL THE TIME, i remember playin nunega a couple 2v2s after, his first time ever without clear/simpee i suppose and it didnt go quite so well as it used to, to say the least
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i always considered him an unusually unfair player, though he was probably better than you think. it's certainly true he only wanted to play with simpee and clear and wouldn't dare play us with anyone else in CAG, as i said on teamspeak many times... perhaps you've forgotten that.
Quote: | btw lol @ this: - nader (just so hitman can win SOMETHING)
arrogant bitch...
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you can't see what a joke that was? do you remember when i posted the video of the border official stopping the car with all the mexicans running out of it, and said "here's tunaman defending the tunnel on islands"? my first thought was to say hitman, but i figured it would upset you.
Quote: | just let your ingame skill talk, not all the bullshit u write here spoonerd, you have never ever proven to be better than anyone here on this forum so im quite willing to play u some games and get to the bottom of this, just to hurt the ego u developed
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here it is, ladies in gentlemen. in this one sentence you have the two things it really "comes down to" - firstly you can't handle the fact you've been proven wrong about almost everything you've said whereas you have not disproven a WORD of mine (not to mention the number of times you've been caught lying), secondly the big difference that i noted a couple of posts ago, that it's never occurred to me to play a game for anything other than its own sake, to "prove" something. the idea that a forum argument might make me so angry that i have to play renegade to make myself feel better, that's completely alien to me. it's very much at the core of your game, isn't it?
Quote: | if you want to hurt spoonys feelings all u have to do is say techd arts are imba and infantry is underpowered on pointfix. i didnt realise it at the time, but spoony is emotionally connected to the pointfix
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whatever makes you feel better about the fact you lost every single pointsfix argument against me, no matter how many times you intentionally tried to lie to score a point.
and while i have your attention again - though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it - why haven't you apologised to me yet for the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing you did on the jelly forum, you lying, cheating little bitch?
Quote: | and thats why hes always been so hostile towards me.
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i've never done anything wrong to you, despite the unbelievable provocation, you lying little bitch.
and while i have your attention again - though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it - why haven't you apologised to me yet for the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing you did on the jelly forum, you lying, cheating little bitch?
and while i have your attention again - though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it - why haven't you apologised to me yet for the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing you did on the jelly forum, you lying, cheating little bitch?
and while i have your attention again - though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it - why haven't you apologised to me yet for the UNBELIEVABLY pathetic thing you did on the jelly forum, you lying, cheating little bitch?
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441050 is a reply to message #441049] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:10 |
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HaTe wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 16:08 |
Quote: | though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it
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LOL. According to your specifications here on win or lose, Spoony, have you ever lost an argument?
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The answer to that, in Spoony's mind, is no.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441051 is a reply to message #441046] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:16 |
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GoTWhisKéY wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:49 | I didn't know if I wanted to post again in here, but hey, its entertaining.
Spoony wrote on Wed, 10 November 2010 13:28 | dare i say... me? lol
other than that, mike's very good, and that yuri1990 (might be getting the numbers wrong) who plays at jelly
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lmfao
We think Spoony was drunk and just finished a MVP*4 @ noobstories when he wrote that.
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i know you do. you think about MVP way too much. i've already taken you down on that point.
Quote: | In the morning he woke up and was like, 'ah fuck i wrote that? Well, I can't back down now', so basically the thread will continue on now no matter what, forever or until players stop questioning it.
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or until someone successfully points out why what i've said is wrong, and that hasn't happened yet despite 18 pages of trying.
Quote: | I like the idea of letting the games do the talking, but even that ended with excuses (We weren't 8vs6 all game on volcano or any other game. It was 8vs8 on my screen, and maybe you had a few go afk during the games, but who knows or can really prove that. Who knows how many were afk on my team.
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If you don't know how many on your team were afk, the answer's none, at least for any significant length of time. We had two people afk practically all game, and everyone knows it - everyone was bitching about it. Everyone also agreed that it's a serious problem that needs addressing, as we have done. And when it happened to hitman's team on islands, when his team suffers from it instead of benefits from it - colossal ragequit.
8v6 is a reason. By contrast, "i wasn't trying" is an excuse.
Quote: | You still had 6 people to repair the airstrip including yourself.)
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There you go. Never mind that it was 8v6, 6 people should still be able to win against 8?
Quote: | You're a hypocrit for claiming we're all making excuses, then the next page comes along after you just lost a series, and you're making excuses too.
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no, hitman's a hypocrite for saying "but it was 8v6" is an "excuse" compared to his "i wasn't trying".
Quote: | Not sure if Spoony ever did team sports growing up, but I did and still do, and, in sports, the best still never claims themselves as best. It makes everyone dislike you, and then analyze every single move you make. You think thats odd? I thought it was common sense. True champions never talk with an ego like that. Unless you're Floyd Money Mayweather, or a heel who uses that to purposely make people dislike him for more PPV buys. Brock Lesnar did something similar recently in UFC. He made everyone hate him by claiming he was the best, and people went crazy buying PPV's to see him get beat up. Eventually he was exposed and knocked out, sort of like whats happening here.
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already been over this, perhaps we could agree that this debate would work better if we both read what the other person said before replying to it? i would say so to hitman and simpee too, but they're too far gone. you, at least, might be amenable to the suggestion.
Quote: | Since we will be starting to have lobby wars every weekend after this one, there will be plenty of games for (the people who care) to prove how goog they are. Since Spoony cares enough to claim he's #1, he better start backing it up soon
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i feel the need to repeat what i just said... you might have noticed me saying i really don't care that much who the best player is, nor have i ever gone into a game of renegade for anything other than the enjoyment of the game. certainly not to "prove" something and CERTAINLY not because a forum argument hurt my feelings. you might wanna talk to hitman if this is what you want.
Quote: | because so far all you've been showing us are statistics about how many comm-wars you've won
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and all we've had in response are... excuses, some way of explaining why this doesn't matter. and public servers, too. again, you're trying to rig the argument.
Quote: | and funny claims like 'best mrl' and 'best light' lol. How do you have a 'best mrl' lol, that one always makes me giggle.
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funny, i always thought you knew the game pretty well
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441052 is a reply to message #441050] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:18 |
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GoTWhisKéY wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 15:10 |
HaTe wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 16:08 |
Quote: | though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it
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LOL. According to your specifications here on win or lose, Spoony, have you ever lost an argument?
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The answer to that, in Spoony's mind, is no.
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this is the kind of question people always, ALWAYS ask for one reason and one reason alone - to make themself feel better about LOSING AN ARGUMENT
hate's just added one more dash on that tally, cos he's HaTeD me ever since he - wait for it - lost an argument about the pointsfix. it's quite funny how desperate he is to avoid accepting how wrong he was, and it's obvious he's still angry.
never mind whether i've lost an argument, do you want to show me a topic where i was conclusively shown to be totally wrong and i didn't accept it? in this thread, you can see hitman and simpee guilty of that multiple times - you also have them repeatedly trying to lie, and getting caught. with simpee that's not at all surprising, he does it in every single argument he has with me - but it's a new for hitman. do you mind this? that's the same question i posed to boomer. if yes, say so - if not, why ask me?
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441053 is a reply to message #439171] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:20 |
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Nod was down 2 players for most of the game on volcano I believe. Losabill was afk for most if not all the entire game of volcano and i Think GDI had 2 more players on ts than nod did.
Nod was actually up players on under for a decent amount of time. I remember it was 9 v 7 at one point and every time I looked nod was either equal or had more players than gdi.
Don't remember what happened on field exactly.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441056 is a reply to message #441052] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:46 |
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Spoony wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 15:18 |
GoTWhisKéY wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 15:10 |
HaTe wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 16:08 |
Quote: | though i thought you'd already left this argument in a rage at losing it
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LOL. According to your specifications here on win or lose, Spoony, have you ever lost an argument?
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The answer to that, in Spoony's mind, is no.
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this is the kind of question people always, ALWAYS ask for one reason and one reason alone - to make themself feel better about LOSING AN ARGUMENT
hate's just added one more dash on that tally, cos he's HaTeD me ever since he - wait for it - lost an argument about the pointsfix. it's quite funny how desperate he is to avoid accepting how wrong he was, and it's obvious he's still angry.
never mind whether i've lost an argument, do you want to show me a topic where i was conclusively shown to be totally wrong and i didn't accept it? in this thread, you can see hitman and simpee guilty of that multiple times - you also have them repeatedly trying to lie, and getting caught. with simpee that's not at all surprising, he does it in every single argument he has with me - but it's a new for hitman. do you mind this? that's the same question i posed to boomer. if yes, say so - if not, why ask me?
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Surprisingly enough....it was a yes or no question. I didn't even bother reading the post, because it's so extremely obvious that all you're doing is avoiding the question. I dare you to reply to this with a yes or no answer to the question. In fact, I triple dog dare you.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - Edmund Burke
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441060 is a reply to message #441038] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 15:05 |
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JohnDoe wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:31 | i got a question in this gay thread: did shotguner ever get busted for cheating? thats the only guy i ever called a cheater that i don't remember getting caught
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yeah that guy cheated, dunno if he got caught though but he would admit it
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441062 is a reply to message #441061] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 15:21 |
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Quote: | Surprisingly enough....it was a yes or no question. I didn't even bother reading the post, because it's so extremely obvious that all you're doing is avoiding the question. I dare you to reply to this with a yes or no answer to the question. In fact, I triple dog dare you.
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ok, it was obvious your anger at losing the pointsfix argument wasn't gonna subside anytime soon.
Quote: | LOL. According to your specifications here on win or lose, Spoony, have you ever lost an argument?
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when you say "here" are you just talking about renforums?
my specifications for losing an argument is basically two things
1. the stuff you say (or at least, a decent amount of it) is debunked
2. you are unable to debunk what the opposition says
on those specifications, i struggle to think of a specific argument i've lost on this forum, though there might be one that's slipped my mind. i would never dream of thinking that it's an impossible scenario. while we're on the subject, there are plenty of people in this thread who've demonstrably lost arguments and have done everything they can to avoid admitting it - simpee is probably the best example you'll ever find, hitman in this thread (though not so much in the past), hate, boomer. why don't you go after them? why don't you say anything about someone like simpee, who flat out lies through his teeth every single time he's in an argument with me? do you seriously have nothing critical to say about that? if the answer's no, it makes your comments about me really funny.
and here's the thing - i've always been in favour of open debate. i'll always give you the chance to tell me why i'm wrong. always. (plenty of other people have done what they could to stifle debate. i've always encouraged it.) the fact you catastrophically fail every time you try doesn't reflect negatively on me. you've just gotta get your head around the fact that maybe spoony's right about something, instead of saying "LOL I FORGOT SPOONYS NEVER WRONG" right after i just showed you why you were wrong
Quote: | spoony have u read ur posts directed at me even when i havent made a comment? why would i apologize for the one time we did the same back to u?
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thanks for proving what i've been saying about you ad nauseum - that you have no regard WHAT-SO-EVER for honesty. everything i've said about you has been true, you haven't disproven a single fucking word of it. by contrast, you've tried lying about me a STAGGERING number of times and you've been caught every single time.
i'm gonna repeat something extremely simple and extremely important. i've said this to you several times before and you've always been too damn thick to get it, but one last try:
i have never done anything wrong to you, simpee. nothing. and this is probably strange, given the EXTRAORDINARILY pathetic way you have always, always behaved towards me. despite this, i have done you nothing but favours.
you owe me an apology for what you did, be a man for the first time in your renelife and apologise, or are you just too much of a lying, pathetic little bitch? why aren't you even slightly embarrassed at how many times you've intentionally lied through your teeth just to attack someone who has never done anything wrong to you? if you act in real life the way you act on renegade, i really wish you the best of luck, and i feel sorry for your parents.
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Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #441072 is a reply to message #441071] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 16:43 |
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something has just occurred to me that probably should have occurred to me before now
what's another flaw in this crap hitman keeps saying how i will make excuses for every loss? apart from my rebuttals i've already made - none of which have been debunked - here's another. why is it i've said nothing about wallsfly? why have i been very specific about the other three maps, but said nothing about wallsfly?
because there isn't one for wallsfly. wallsfly was simply a matter of better teamwork, though it was close for most of it. i'll even say that hitman sniping our havoc however many times (3?) was a major factor. there you go, do you see any excuses there?
completely offtopic, the question of best sniper may be reorganised if the TT patch removes the flickerdancing...
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