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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439870 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 22 November 2010 00:24

Goztow
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I couldn't make it due to trouble with my baby, but heard it were really good games. Smile

Some screenshots, anyone? I'll try my best to be there next time, of course.

I'm going to get in touch with BI about the TS changer. I think a recent TS3 server update may have changed something.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439874 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 22 November 2010 01:36

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GGs indeed Big Ups

. Unfortunately ppl left during the 3rd map Huh

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439875 is a reply to message #439874]

Mon, 22 November 2010 04:43

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they were gg's. without the TS teamchanger, we just picked teams in the usual way.

did three maps (islands, wallsfly, field), 2-1 to hypnos/my team.

it'll be better in future if the teamchanger is working, cos it took a while to sort the teams out, and - as i remarked before - it's inconvenient if someone has to drop or if someone turns up late. if the teamchanger's working then these issues can sort themselves out.

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439876 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 22 November 2010 04:45

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dammit, i missed it. sorry. :/

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439917 is a reply to message #439875]

Mon, 22 November 2010 15:59

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Spoony wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 05:43

it's inconvenient if someone has to drop or if someone turns up late. if the teamchanger's working then these issues can sort themselves out.

Maybe im missing something, but how would it help in such a case? Anyone take any screenshots?

Also, reborn released a TS3 team regulator SSGM plugin months ago.

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439921 is a reply to message #439917]

Mon, 22 November 2010 16:11

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trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 16:59

Spoony wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 05:43

it's inconvenient if someone has to drop or if someone turns up late. if the teamchanger's working then these issues can sort themselves out.

Maybe im missing something, but how would it help in such a case?

if someone turns up late, might this not unbalance the team? even if not, might it not give people something to bitch about?

and if someone drops, does the enemy team have to pick someone of roughly equal skill to drop in return?

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #439956 is a reply to message #439633]

Tue, 23 November 2010 10:16

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These were good games with an excellent turn out. 18 players in total.

See you all in two weeks.

Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

Well this topic is still going on. I have to say I haven't watched much Anime recently (maybe a year or so) the last thing I saw was GITS (for the third time)

Im not too sure whether I just dont enjoy Anime anymore or whether its just I dont have time really to shit and watch it.

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440022 is a reply to message #439633]

Wed, 24 November 2010 13:04

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TS changer now works. The server will be accessible from gamespy / RR by next game as well.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440025 is a reply to message #440022]

Wed, 24 November 2010 13:26

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excellent news!

does anyone fancy doing one this sunday too?

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440027 is a reply to message #439633]

Wed, 24 November 2010 13:46

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unless i forgt it again, sure Smile

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440046 is a reply to message #439633]

Thu, 25 November 2010 08:32

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Sure, I'll happily attend this Sunday.

Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440168 is a reply to message #439633]

Sun, 28 November 2010 12:34

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I sadly had to drop out after the first map, but after later speaking with sKePTiCaL about the matches, we both agreed that the concept of the TeamSpeak Regulator, and the idea for it to be used within lobby wars is a great idea, that there's only one flaw. Using a public server.

Not only do you obtain random players, who upset the balance of the team(s) because:-

1) They tend to not possess the knowledge of how to work as a team (Prime example was on City_Flying, we asked bomb2006 to buy a medium tank, yet there is a MRLS on the field)
2) They do not have TeamSpeak or do not connect which reduces communication drastically and usually upsets, ruins, or delays any potential plans.

The other aspect of this is using open TeamSpeak Channels, which allows random users to easily join a channel and disrupt the game.

The other problem with using a public server, is the capability to donate to other members on your team. It's kind of self explanatory why this is a bad thing.

Hopefully, we can rectify these problems by simply using a private server, or making the TK2 server private when these games are scheduled.

Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440213 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 29 November 2010 00:44

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The whole concept is still being tested, of course. IMO the event should be half private. This means passwording the server but making the password public. Maybe make the pass "clanwar", like it used to be for all clan servers.

This way people can come and go.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440222 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 29 November 2010 02:37

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I think you should not take it too serious. This is not meant to replace any cw.cc or lobby wars IMO. What is the big deal in having a public player. The public players joining are not replacing somebody. The worst he can do is not to help the team which is the same as If he wasn't there at all. If he is hampering the team, he still can be kicked.

Are you so much into winning that you would rather leave a game or don't have a game at all If there is a chance of losing because you have a public player in your team and the others don't?

Those games are not counted. No ladder, no announced winner. The idea was - at least what I understood - to have non clan war games for those who would like to have it a tad more organizes than normal public games.

If you turn it into lobby wars or cw just with remixed teams, you will lose players quickly and not get any more new players joining. Its not as if the concept of a cw league or lobby wars would have proven itself as successful lately.

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440227 is a reply to message #440222]

Mon, 29 November 2010 03:15

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i always thought they should be left open, just so long as there's at least one of us there with the ability to kick people.

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440228 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 29 November 2010 03:17

Goztow
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I can live with that Smile

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Re: Introducing Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars, starting this Sunday [message #440263 is a reply to message #439633]

Mon, 29 November 2010 12:42

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Well, there's have been advertised as 'Bi-Weekly Lobby Wars' not 'Bi-Weekly Public Server Meetings'

I just think we should implement the same methods, or at least concepts of lobby wars into these to try and keep it to a competitive level, because, that is the reason lobby wars are what they are. To keep that competitive edge alive, as you kindly pointed out, Clanwars.cc hasn't exactly taken off recently...

I only posted my opinion and idea, because in my eyes it would benefit these types of games, i'm all for letting new comers attend, but let them come through the 'official' route by joining the TeamSpeak Server, getting involved in these games and hopefully becoming regular attendees.

Caveman wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 08:26

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