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still not sure which card to think, for nvidi im thinking gtx 465 but for ati i have no idea..
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| Re: ATI [message #439591 is a reply to message #436508] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 23:00 |
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If possible, try to step up to an nVidia 470 over a 465. A 465 has the 470's heat and power consumption, but is really neutered in terms of processing.
However, there are some really good prices on 465's on Newegg right now; whether they'll go lower for Black Friday, or not is the question.
A GTX 460 1GB would be worth looking at too, although it seems the 465 is priced similarly to those. The 460 overclocks better, runs cooler and consumes less power. But that's only if you're willing to OC.
A comparable AMD card would be the 6870, and one of those will beat out a GTX 465 handily, and even catch up to a 470.
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| Re: ATI [message #439593 is a reply to message #436508] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 23:20 |
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Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices).
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| Re: ATI [message #439595 is a reply to message #439593] |
Tue, 16 November 2010 00:26 |
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| a000clown wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 22:20 |
Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices).
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well what do u recommend? =]
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| Re: ATI [message #439623 is a reply to message #439595] |
Tue, 16 November 2010 10:37 |
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| (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 02:26 |
| a000clown wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 22:20 |
Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices).
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well what do u recommend? =]
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I was just commenting on the GeForce 460 vs 465 vs 470 discussion, in which case I'd go for the 460 between the three of them.
Then, comparing to the AMD/ATI side, the Radeon HD 6850 wins most benchmarks (vs GeForce 640 1GB) while also coming out cheaper.
Keep in mind the benchmarks I'm referring to compare the reference cards and partner designs (from EVGA, ASUS, XFX, Saphire, MSI, Gigabyte, etc.) may have very different results.
I can't decide for you. Just figure out the min FPS you want at the resolution you play at, then pick a card that gives you that.
All I meant before was that you'll always be saying, "it's only an extra x dollars so why not?" as you bump up to the next card, and the next, and the next, until you hit the most expensive card and realize you just jumped a couple hundred bucks from where you started 
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| Re: ATI [message #439657 is a reply to message #439623] |
Wed, 17 November 2010 11:29 |
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| a000clown wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 09:37 |
| (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Tue, 16 November 2010 02:26 |
| a000clown wrote on Mon, 15 November 2010 22:20 |
Personally I'd save myself the money and go with the cheaper card of comparable performance. I don't think 5 to 10 extra FPS is worth the $50-150 (depending on card choices).
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well what do u recommend? =]
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I was just commenting on the GeForce 460 vs 465 vs 470 discussion, in which case I'd go for the 460 between the three of them.
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| Re: ATI [message #439733 is a reply to message #436508] |
Fri, 19 November 2010 00:33 |
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I am still having toruble picking out a card, the nvidia GTX seem to have high benchmarks while the ATI have more Stream Processors, and still confused on which to choose
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| Re: ATI [message #439930 is a reply to message #436508] |
Mon, 22 November 2010 18:43 |
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Unless you can give us a definitive price ceiling, and the resolution/eye-candy you want to play, we can't make a good suggestion.
Right now, the GTX 460 seems the best way to go, given what you've said so far. The AMD 6850 offers comparable performance, but is more expensive than the nVidia card.
But like I said, if you decide you want to play at 1920x1080 with an average of 4x AA, with a minimum 50FPS in every game, then you need to make that known.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: ATI [message #439932 is a reply to message #439930] |
Mon, 22 November 2010 20:28 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 17:43 |
Unless you can give us a definitive price ceiling, and the resolution/eye-candy you want to play, we can't make a good suggestion.
Right now, the GTX 460 seems the best way to go, given what you've said so far. The AMD 6850 offers comparable performance, but is more expensive than the nVidia card.
But like I said, if you decide you want to play at 1920x1080 with an average of 4x AA, with a minimum 50FPS in every game, then you need to make that known.
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well my monitors only support 1600 x 900 so that I guess? my price range is between 150-200 dollars, but since black Friday im hopping one thats over 200 dollars could be reduced to fit my budget which is why Im waiting, I want it to have a HDMI output and be very good graphics, I jsut dont know the difference spec wise between eh GTX and the ATI series
like ATi have lot of Stream Processing Units while nvidia has way less and stuff lime that
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| Re: ATI [message #439937 is a reply to message #436508] |
Mon, 22 November 2010 21:57 |
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Don't worry about stream processing units and the like. What you care about are gaming benchmarks as those will indicate what performance you can expect.
Within that price range, you might be able to get a GTX 470 or a Radeon 5850 for under 200 dollars on Black Friday.
Otherwise, a GTX 460 will be perfectly good for that resolution, as is a 6850.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: ATI [message #439941 is a reply to message #439937] |
Mon, 22 November 2010 22:49 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 22 November 2010 20:57 |
Don't worry about stream processing units and the like. What you care about are gaming benchmarks as those will indicate what performance you can expect.
Within that price range, you might be able to get a GTX 470 or a Radeon 5850 for under 200 dollars on Black Friday.
Otherwise, a GTX 460 will be perfectly good for that resolution, as is a 6850.
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Do you guys happen to know whats normal price discount on that day?
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| Re: ATI [message #439943 is a reply to message #436508] |
Mon, 22 November 2010 22:59 |
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Not really, there's no 'normal' discount on products. That's why you want a couple different choice of cards that you'd be happy to pick, like the 460/470 and the 6850/5850.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: ATI [message #440201 is a reply to message #436508] |
Sun, 28 November 2010 23:05 |
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You made the right decision, young patriot.
Supporting nVidia is the American thing to do. ATi is a Canadian company and therefore, steals jobs from hardworking American families, meaning their babies starve to death, and they themselves cannot afford a GTX 580 to play Crysis with.
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| Re: ATI [message #440376 is a reply to message #436508] |
Tue, 30 November 2010 00:08 |
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Think you, I was thinking of an ALI hack but never knew how to even start to learn how to do it or how its done.
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| Re: ATI [message #442738 is a reply to message #436508] |
Sat, 15 January 2011 21:16 |
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I've had the SLI hack running for a week now, without any problem whatsoever. PhysX works, as does nVidia Surround. It's amazing.
The downside is that you cannot use the newest drivers. However, they're probably as mature as they're going to be for the 4XX-Series anyways.
However, you'll want to be comfortable with altering your system slightly. It's simple to install, and uninstall, but you should back up your files, just in case.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: ATI [message #442751 is a reply to message #442738] |
Sun, 16 January 2011 00:10 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 20:16 |
I've had the SLI hack running for a week now, without any problem whatsoever. PhysX works, as does nVidia Surround. It's amazing.
The downside is that you cannot use the newest drivers. However, they're probably as mature as they're going to be for the 4XX-Series anyways.
However, you'll want to be comfortable with altering your system slightly. It's simple to install, and uninstall, but you should back up your files, just in case.
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Cool, Ill ask you how you did it once I ever get the money for a second card lol
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