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I added a few new features to the ladder and website:

* Automatic end-of-month resetting
* Click on a map name on the list for a player to see all the players on that map. Click on a player from that list to see their stats.

To come:

* The game page needs more data added and team colors for Nod and GDI
* A page to see all games played on a particular server
* Archives - I have data going back to November 2006 which I plan to make accessible

Comments? Feedback? I would have gotten more done tonight but I have to go to work. Sad


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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435179 is a reply to message #435162] Fri, 20 August 2010 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nice and ty

just curious, is it also possible to add in more info to the stat page? Like what vehicles were destroyed and buildings killed?
Re: RenLadder updates [message #435200 is a reply to message #435162] Sat, 21 August 2010 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That sort of data isn't sent. It's something that could be added at a later time via TT patching, though.

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435201 is a reply to message #435162] Sat, 21 August 2010 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's very nice, thanks Crimson! Smile

I particulary look forward to the archives, will be nice to see some old results for good times sake.

I do have a question about the current #1 on the ladder. The guy received 26336 ladder points in one game and instantly got the top with that (obviously). Is there anything you can do about those false stats? The server was/is a sniper server and the game certainly didn't last like.. 10 days or something before you can get such an enormous amount. The game lasted about 40 seconds, unless I'm mistaken. So, it's obviously a false stat, a bug perhaps or an exploit or something.

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435210 is a reply to message #435162] Sat, 21 August 2010 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RR Server and RR Client side send invalid ladder stats. Here is example: http://renladder.blackhand-studios.net/player.php?name=girlz

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435218 is a reply to message #435162] Sat, 21 August 2010 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It looks like RR is sending actual game points rather than ladder points based on some of those numbers...

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435222 is a reply to message #435218] Sat, 21 August 2010 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 21 August 2010 15:50

It looks like RR is sending actual game points rather than ladder points based on some of those numbers...


26k pts in a sniper server(that lasted 40 seconds)? Perhaps if it were a marathon game Wink

Are the calculations for the ladder points done serverside; or do they require the player to be connected through XWIS/WOL for their efforts to be registered? It was to my understanding that players who use RR connect directly to the servers and thus bypass XWIS.


Re: RenLadder updates [message #435227 is a reply to message #435162] Sat, 21 August 2010 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 20:49

* Archives - I have data going back to November 2006 which I plan to make accessible

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435232 is a reply to message #435162] Sat, 21 August 2010 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any server connected to XWIS that has set our ladder server's IP in their hosts file will send data compiled by the game server to our server.

The only way to remove or adjust these bad results is to have someone in charge of moderating the ladder data and give them access to tweak or remove fault results. Alternatively, we could ban servers from the ladder who are sending this bad data which is less work.


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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435238 is a reply to message #435232] Sat, 21 August 2010 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Sun, 22 August 2010 02:22


The only way to remove or adjust these bad results is to have someone in charge of moderating the ladder data and give them access to tweak or remove fault results. Alternatively, we could ban servers from the ladder who are sending this bad data which is less work.


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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435253 is a reply to message #435162] Sun, 22 August 2010 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could do... but I'd expect some community input.

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435255 is a reply to message #435162] Sun, 22 August 2010 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 20:49

Comments? Feedback?

those things we worked out some time ago :/


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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435281 is a reply to message #435162] Sun, 22 August 2010 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it me or are these updates going to bring renegade back to the way it was back in the days?

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435304 is a reply to message #435162] Sun, 22 August 2010 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow, if you do get appointed moderator of the ladder, I'd gladly help.

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435362 is a reply to message #435255] Mon, 23 August 2010 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Sun, 22 August 2010 00:44

Crimson wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 20:49

Comments? Feedback?

those things we worked out some time ago :/


Yeah, I am going to try and work on that stuff, too... :\


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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435367 is a reply to message #435162] Mon, 23 August 2010 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RenLadder updates [message #435368 is a reply to message #435162] Mon, 23 August 2010 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RenLadder updates [message #437384 is a reply to message #435162] Sun, 03 October 2010 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*bump*

I have made some more tweaks to the ladder website.

* Archived data! - This still needs some work, specifically accessing detailed archive data, but you can see player/server counts, and the ladder winners... for posterity
* A server page - click on a underlined server name to see all the games on that one server (this page loads slow - I'm still working on optimizing the SQL query)
* Some backend tweaks for accessing the archives quickly

There's still more to come.


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Re: RenLadder updates [message #437420 is a reply to message #435162] Sun, 03 October 2010 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #437445 is a reply to message #435162] Mon, 04 October 2010 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The guy in first on the ladder right now is gettin like 5000 points per game in 45 min servers from a0000002W host name, whichever server that is.


Dunno how that works, but it seems to also report a false game in addition to whatever game is played on that server.

I tried playing a game on that server and The guy in first place got like 3000 ladder, then everyone else got like 100.

Then a few minutes later, I noticed it reported another game from that server that I hadn't even been in and it gave me 30 kills, 0 deaths, and -1544 ladder points... lol

Here are a few samples...

http://renladder.blackhand-studios.net/player.php?name=Unnecessar
http://renladder.blackhand-studios.net/player.php?name=DHMO
http://renladder.blackhand-studios.net/player.php?name=halo2pac

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #437448 is a reply to message #435162] Mon, 04 October 2010 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I noticed that to, need to shut that server down Razz
Also how can it happen that sometimes a game is not recorded in the ladder. For example I played very long yesterday where I received around 1000 ladder points but it didn't show up..
And yes it was a laddered server.

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Re: RenLadder updates [message #437449 is a reply to message #435162] Mon, 04 October 2010 09:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There needs to be some guidance about the requirements a server should follow to be allowed to report to the ladder.
Really, no modified server should be able to report to the ladder; But that kinda rules out every single server.



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Thats Atomix server if im not mistaken... They sometimes even get 7k ladder points for doing nothing at all.
I also noticed that some games dont get recorded in the ladder.
Also the map names are incorrect, it shows the next server map in the ladder then the map we actually played.
Re: RenLadder updates [message #437477 is a reply to message #435162] Mon, 04 October 2010 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Yeah, we definitely need to disallow any servers that modify ladder data. And all co-op servers.

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