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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436484 is a reply to message #436267]

Sun, 12 September 2010 16:58

HaTe
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reborn wrote on Wed, 08 September 2010 15:53

HaTe wrote on Wed, 08 September 2010 10:41

reborn wrote on Tue, 07 September 2010 16:27

You do not have to use the BHS ladder, the same stats can be sent to your own server using the SSGM plugin.
It means it cannot be exploited by others, but also means it only contains your servers stats...

And does also not contain a general rank for players who play in multiple servers...which is what the BHS ladder does.

You are simply reposting the same thing I said but in a different way :-/

However, I think it's important to mention that the BHS ladder is almost maningless if you are only interested in your rank itself, as it's extremely easy to exploit it.

Which is exactly what I said.....all I'm saying is that there should be a stable rank system for a player who plays in multiple servers. The BHS ladder is intended to do so, but as we both said - can easily be exploited.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436816 is a reply to message #434013]

Tue, 21 September 2010 04:58

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I have come to a conclusion...

It's not Renegade that's dying, it's the community that's dying.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436879 is a reply to message #434013]

Wed, 22 September 2010 21:17

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There's no saving this game, it's ran its course.

The days I remember ren, where when there were 10-20 people in the WOL chatrooms at any time looking for 2v2-5v5 clanwars. That will never happen again Sad

Sad

and tbh, I cant take renegade seriously in public server format. It's just too stupid

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436881 is a reply to message #434013]

Wed, 22 September 2010 23:21

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I don't think anyone was suggesting Jelly shut down. Jelly the person has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't give a shit about Renegade... that is a fact and his statements to this can be found here on RenForums (unless he's deleted them of course). If it's changed and he cares again, then so be it. Jelly the community still cares which is apparent. But, again, no one is suggesting they shut down. The ones that SHOULD shut down are the ones that sit empty all day (or most of the day).

The BHS ladder is exploitable in its current state but with a small amount of effort it could be moderated and servers that skewed stats could be removed from participating in the ladder.

The WOL ladder died with WOL and XWIS does not have a Renegade ladder. That's why Sir_Kane recreated a ladder server to collect and store the data, and I host the server as well as coded the front-end for you to view your stats. We did this as a community service.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436882 is a reply to message #434013]

Wed, 22 September 2010 23:58

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Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436883 is a reply to message #436882]

Thu, 23 September 2010 00:10

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Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

or the UT3 engine

just saying

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436894 is a reply to message #436883]

Thu, 23 September 2010 07:17

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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 00:10

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

or the UT3 engine

just saying

UT3 is a forgotten relic of the past (Kind of like Renegade har har har). StarCraft II? Now that's the future.

DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436918 is a reply to message #436894]

Thu, 23 September 2010 23:42

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Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 09:17

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 00:10

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

or the UT3 engine

just saying

UT3 is a forgotten relic of the past (Kind of like Renegade har har har). StarCraft II? Now that's the future.

If you like imbalance and endless QQ, yea.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436919 is a reply to message #434013]

Thu, 23 September 2010 23:54

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I've been playing Renegade since late 2002 and as much as it pains me to say it, I don't think there's anything anybody can do for it at this point. I remember the days when there were thousands of people online playing, the WOL chats constantly had people in them looking to organize clans matches. I remember the excitement when the game was updated and Glacier_Flying was released; I played Renegade all through that Christmas break from school.

I have so many wonderful memories playing this game, and would love nothing more than to snap my fingers and have the game that popular again. Unfortunately that's just not going to happen. It's too late to save Renegade. Right now there's about 150 people that still play Renegade on a regular basis. A mere fraction of what it was back in 2003. The game is dated, plain and simple. It has an amazing concept (for online), one that I have yet to find it any other game yet (buildings, tanks, base defenses, etc) but the graphics are circa 2002 and are nothing compared to games like Call of Duty. Not to mention it's been unsupported for years now.

I love Renegade and will continue to keep playing it but I have no illusions of grandeur. We should just all keep playing the game we love and things will work themselves out.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436925 is a reply to message #436919]

Fri, 24 September 2010 00:52

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A48943849 wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 01:54

150 people

More than that, those are just stats that count people logged into XWIS. It's not counting those logged in via gamespy or those using direct connect. It's more like 300+. I know, still not a huge amount, but people think there's less on than there really is.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436938 is a reply to message #436882]

Fri, 24 September 2010 09:44

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Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

You mean a Renegade RTS? That could be cool. Sometimes I wish a supersmart team of geeks (compliment) with a lot of time on their hands get their shit together and finish JeepRubi's Ren mod for C&C3.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436944 is a reply to message #436938]

Fri, 24 September 2010 15:52

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Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 11:44

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

You mean a Renegade RTS? That could be cool. Sometimes I wish a supersmart team of geeks (compliment) with a lot of time on their hands get their shit together and finish JeepRubi's Ren mod for C&C3.

I actually want to see Rene units converted to Sc2 units and the FPS play style kept.

Can you imagine being a Zealot chasing down a Marine with WASD, hehe.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436949 is a reply to message #436944]

Fri, 24 September 2010 20:40

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snpr1101 wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 17:52

Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 11:44

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

You mean a Renegade RTS? That could be cool. Sometimes I wish a supersmart team of geeks (compliment) with a lot of time on their hands get their shit together and finish JeepRubi's Ren mod for C&C3.

I actually want to see Rene units converted to Sc2 units and the FPS play style kept.

Can you imagine being a Zealot chasing down a Marine with WASD, hehe.

hahaha yeah lol. Just imagine being a Zealot on Complex with the Leg Enhancements upgrades. I would storm my way all the way to the Terran ref running around and around all the while hacking the damn thing to a rubble with my psionic blades lololollll.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #436954 is a reply to message #436938]

Fri, 24 September 2010 22:09

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Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 11:44

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

You mean a Renegade RTS? That could be cool. Sometimes I wish a supersmart team of geeks (compliment) with a lot of time on their hands get their shit together and finish JeepRubi's Ren mod for C&C3.

Totally agree. I forgot about that...it never got the attention it deserved, I wish JR himself finished it tho Huh

Huh

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #437012 is a reply to message #436954]

Sat, 25 September 2010 20:22

Starbuzzz
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trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 25 September 2010 00:09

Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 11:44

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

You mean a Renegade RTS? That could be cool. Sometimes I wish a supersmart team of geeks (compliment) with a lot of time on their hands get their shit together and finish JeepRubi's Ren mod for C&C3.

Totally agree. I forgot about that...it never got the attention it deserved, I wish JR himself finished it tho Huh

Huh

I think the same too. The meticulous quality he put into the mod makes me wish he restarts it and finishes it. People from the Ren community will actually play it. Just imagine all the stock WW maps beautifully remade for C&C 3! We can even get the Ramjet going using it as a counter unit to kill the light armoured vehicles.

It's sad when good projects made by the most brilliant visionary modders get abandoned. Then again, we all have a real life to deal with. The Road to Moscow mod for Generals was another one of those heart wrenching failures.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #437090 is a reply to message #436938]

Mon, 27 September 2010 09:35

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Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 24 September 2010 12:44

Dover wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 01:58

Maybe if someone made a Renegade mod for the SC2 engine. Just saying.

You mean a Renegade RTS? That could be cool.

Savage 2?

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #437325 is a reply to message #437090]

Sat, 02 October 2010 03:03

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Feature it on Machinema Respawn or whatever, if you know or is any of them, would make a lot of plubicity

What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is what we do.

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Re: How do we get Renegade great again? [message #437634 is a reply to message #436881]

Sun, 10 October 2010 06:18

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Crimson wrote on Thu, 23 September 2010 02:21

I don't think anyone was suggesting Jelly shut down. Jelly the person has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't give a shit about Renegade... that is a fact and his statements to this can be found here on RenForums (unless he's deleted them of course). If it's changed and he cares again, then so be it. Jelly the community still cares which is apparent. But, again, no one is suggesting they shut down. The ones that SHOULD shut down are the ones that sit empty all day (or most of the day).

The BHS ladder is exploitable in its current state but with a small amount of effort it could be moderated and servers that skewed stats could be removed from participating in the ladder.

The WOL ladder died with WOL and XWIS does not have a Renegade ladder. That's why Sir_Kane recreated a ladder server to collect and store the data, and I host the server as well as coded the front-end for you to view your stats. We did this as a community service.

Care to show me these comments? I've made many I don't care comments, mostly aimed at other communities continually commenting on what we do, it does get tiresome.

Some may have been made in anger and may have read different to what I was trying to say. If so I'd like to set the record straight on me not caring about this game.

I've never stopped caring about this game, and especially our own servers. Anyone from our community will tell you I don't slag other communities off and I don't get involved in other servers politics. All I ever try and do is make sure we keep our own house in order as best we can. However I do get pissed off when people ignore all that and have a dig at us anyway, which is where my comments were likely made.

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