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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432870 is a reply to message #432867] |
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| Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 14:00 |
it was just sadukar trolling.
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so i found this shit so you can rebarn while you rage for rebarn.
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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS
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[22:48]<APBBR> @V0LK0V: AOL COMING UR WAI K
[22:48] <APBBR> Host: Quitting due to Westwood Online connection loss.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432871 is a reply to message #432870] |
Fri, 16 July 2010 12:45 |
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| sadukar09 wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 14:25 |
| Starbuzzz wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 14:00 |
it was just sadukar trolling.
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so i found this shit so you can rebarn while you rage for rebarn.
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allright sorry man!
Only reason I didn't download this was I heard it was supposed to be very glitchy? The only Reborn I ever tried was the infantry beta that was released 2 or so years ago.
FINE! I will give this a go then.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432877 is a reply to message #432866] |
Fri, 16 July 2010 14:27 |
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| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432881 is a reply to message #432877] |
Fri, 16 July 2010 17:14 |
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| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432882 is a reply to message #432881] |
Fri, 16 July 2010 17:35 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 19:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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That is why the Reborn team should've thought it through before they released the infantry beta, keep releasing incremental patches/vehicle beta to keep the masses happy ala Cold Fusion of APB.
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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
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[22:48]<APBBR> @V0LK0V: AOL COMING UR WAI K
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432887 is a reply to message #432881] |
Fri, 16 July 2010 19:31 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 19:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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I remember when I thought the word was ladder, too.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #432897 is a reply to message #432879] |
Fri, 16 July 2010 23:33 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 15:20 |
like starcraft ghost
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That wasn't being developed by Blizzard. Only licensed. It was canceled because the game was shit-tastic and they fired the faggots they hired to make the game.
| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433117 is a reply to message #432897] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 05:25 |
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 01:33 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 15:20 |
like starcraft ghost
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That wasn't being developed by Blizzard. Only licensed. It was canceled because the game was shit-tastic and they fired the faggots they hired to make the game.
| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
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We owe you nothing. We don't care if some e-fag has the need of ridiculing our mod. We'll release it whenever we fuck we want to. Don't like it? Well, too fucking bad son. We don't give a shit.
Go make your own tiberian sun mod if you think can do things better than us.
je m'appelle ohnoes!
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433158 is a reply to message #433117] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 18:13 |
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| Stefan wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 05:25 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 01:33 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 15:20 |
like starcraft ghost
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That wasn't being developed by Blizzard. Only licensed. It was canceled because the game was shit-tastic and they fired the faggots they hired to make the game.
| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
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We owe you nothing. We don't care if some e-fag has the need of ridiculing our mod. We'll release it whenever we fuck we want to. Don't like it? Well, too fucking bad son. We don't give a shit.
Go make your own tiberian sun mod if you think can do things better than us.
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I never said you owed me anything. I'm glad you guys are finally showing some honesty and taking personal responsibility for your lack of results instead of blaming your sloth on TT or scripts 4.0 or some other transparent excuse. Really. I'm proud. 
And just as an aside, even if I was in the mod-making business, I wouldn't touch a Tiberian Sun mod. That'd be almost as retarded as making a Red Alert 2 mod.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433163 is a reply to message #432897] |
Mon, 19 July 2010 19:04 |
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 02:33 |
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
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What are you talking about? They have released it before scripts 4.0...
It's called the Reborn Infantry Beta which was released in February of 2007.
That build didn't require scripts 4.0. However, right after it, that's when they starting building with scripts 4.0.
Saying they can't release it because of scripts 4.0 means they can't release it because of scripts 4.0. It's not a scapegoat or an excuse for lack of work. I'm a beta tester and the game is in pretty good condition for playing. DarkAngel even said that once scripts 4.0 goes public, so will Reborn. The release of the mod is hinging on TT, not the Reborn team.
The latest news from the inside says that the only major things needed for the mod is a fix for the underground logic, which is being worked on by, you guessed it, the coders who are working on scritps 4.0!
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433184 is a reply to message #433158] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 02:40 |
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| Dover wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 20:13 |
| Stefan wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 05:25 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 01:33 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 15:20 |
like starcraft ghost
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That wasn't being developed by Blizzard. Only licensed. It was canceled because the game was shit-tastic and they fired the faggots they hired to make the game.
| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
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We owe you nothing. We don't care if some e-fag has the need of ridiculing our mod. We'll release it whenever we fuck we want to. Don't like it? Well, too fucking bad son. We don't give a shit.
Go make your own tiberian sun mod if you think can do things better than us.
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I never said you owed me anything. I'm glad you guys are finally showing some honesty and taking personal responsibility for your lack of results instead of blaming your sloth on TT or scripts 4.0 or some other transparent excuse. Really. I'm proud.
And just as an aside, even if I was in the mod-making business, I wouldn't touch a Tiberian Sun mod. That'd be almost as retarded as making a Red Alert 2 mod.
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Perhaps you should pull your head out of your ass and look at the infantry beta.
je m'appelle ohnoes!
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433190 is a reply to message #433163] |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 19:04 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 02:33 |
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
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What are you talking about? They have released it before scripts 4.0...
It's called the Reborn Infantry Beta which was released in February of 2007.
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| Stefan wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 02:40 |
Perhaps you should pull your head out of your ass and look at the infantry beta.
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That's cool. I wonder what would happen if real, non-shitty developers did the same thing and sat on their laurels after they put out a partially-complete beta.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433480 is a reply to message #432178] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 01:16 |
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I don't mind waiting for releases. It makes 0 difference when it comes out, I'll still give it a try whenever it does.
I don't mind developers missing their target release dates. They have their reasons.
I don't mind playing around with buggy software. It's fun, and watching the progress of development and the maturation of the product is thrilling.
I don't mind when roadmaps change and they do something unexpected. They work freely and owe us nothing, it's entirely up to them how the end product turns out.
I don't even mind when they go months without a single public update/announcement/release/teaser.
What pisses me off is when they show us all these amazing things they've done and then release some lame version with half the stuff missing, like the infantry beta.
An example of what I mean is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVvhjuR_Elg
You cannot tell me the infantry beta is more fun than that...
To sum up my somewhat long post: Great development team; poor management decisions; quit bitching because you know you'll try the next version whenever it's released regardless of date; and try not to completely fuck up the next release by ditching half the content.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433538 is a reply to message #433158] |
Mon, 26 July 2010 16:03 |
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| Dover wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 19:13 |
| Stefan wrote on Mon, 19 July 2010 05:25 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 17 July 2010 01:33 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 15:20 |
like starcraft ghost
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That wasn't being developed by Blizzard. Only licensed. It was canceled because the game was shit-tastic and they fired the faggots they hired to make the game.
| R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:14 |
| Dover wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 17:27 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 11:51 |
then why the hell was this posted? (I might just be a bit slow).
If it came out 7 years ago... and it was announced, released, and hyped.... all done with by 6 and a half years ago... just doesn't make sense...
unless this is an update?
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This is just to remind you that reborn is just the same vaporware it was seven years ago, dispite all the hype it's gotten between then and now.
Really, it wouldn't be so bad if the developers just admitted it and said "Yeah, we've got our thumbs in our asses and aren't really doing much else" or said "Yeah, we're too busy doing important real-life things like snorting coke. We can't be bothered to work on that shitty mod". What makes them targets for this kind of ridicule is that they pretend like the release is just around the corner.
At least when Blizzard releases things Soon™, they actually deliver eventually, and it's actually well worth the wait.
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There is a difference between not releasing something because it is incomplete and not releasing something because they aren't allowed to.
Reborn is the ladder.
Reborn, just like the next version of APB, uses scripts 4.0. Scripts 4.0 is the property of Tiberian Technologies. If Reborn was to release a public version of the mod in the current state that it is in, then they would be going over the heads of the guys at TT; basically leaking the private build of scripts 4.0.
The bottom line is this:
Reborn cannot be released until Tiberian Technologies release scripts 4.0 first. Even if Reborn is completely finished and polished beyond perfect; if scripts 4.0 isn't released publicly, then neither Reborn or APB can be released.
And before you ask: no. Reverting the current build off of scripts 4.0 is not going to happen.
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Then they should have released it seven god damn years ago before scripts 4.0 or TT were even figments of anybody's imagination. That worn out excuse might explain why it isn't being released tonight, but it doesn't explain why it wasn't released at any point in the past five years.
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We owe you nothing. We don't care if some e-fag has the need of ridiculing our mod. We'll release it whenever we fuck we want to. Don't like it? Well, too fucking bad son. We don't give a shit.
Go make your own tiberian sun mod if you think can do things better than us.
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I never said you owed me anything. I'm glad you guys are finally showing some honesty and taking personal responsibility for your lack of results instead of blaming your sloth on TT or scripts 4.0 or some other transparent excuse. Really. I'm proud.
And just as an aside, even if I was in the mod-making business, I wouldn't touch a Tiberian Sun mod. That'd be almost as retarded as making any other W3D mod.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433638 is a reply to message #433636] |
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| IAmFenix wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 09:08 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 07:36 |
hey dover
shut the fuck up
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 17:41 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 08:43 |
That's cool. I wonder what would happen if real, non-shitty developers did the same thing and sat on their laurels after they put out a partially-complete beta.
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I posted before, but this really didn't hit me until just now.
There is no such thing as a 'complete beta.'
The point of a beta is to give out a work-in-progress in order to receive feedback on how they should adjust things for the final product.
A 'complete beta' wouldn't be a beta, it would just be the entire game.
I think you're confusing the term 'beta' with 'demo,' which the Infantry Beta was not.
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I'm not. I'm drawing paralells with the StarCraft II beta which went on recently, which resembles what a beta should be. That wasn't a 'demo' either, but it was a more-than-half done product with all the serious bugs ironed out already and it resembled what the final version would be. None of that could be said for the reborn infantry beta.
There are minimum standards for how much work should be done for something to be considered a beta. "Beta" is the second letter of the greek alphabet. Second, that means something had to have come before it. And taking a look at Reborn infantry beta, I'm not sure there was.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433720 is a reply to message #433638] |
Thu, 29 July 2010 00:11 |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:21 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 17:41 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 08:43 |
That's cool. I wonder what would happen if real, non-shitty developers did the same thing and sat on their laurels after they put out a partially-complete beta.
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I posted before, but this really didn't hit me until just now.
There is no such thing as a 'complete beta.'
The point of a beta is to give out a work-in-progress in order to receive feedback on how they should adjust things for the final product.
A 'complete beta' wouldn't be a beta, it would just be the entire game.
I think you're confusing the term 'beta' with 'demo,' which the Infantry Beta was not.
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I'm not. I'm drawing paralells with the StarCraft II beta which went on recently, which resembles what a beta should be. That wasn't a 'demo' either, but it was a more-than-half done product with all the serious bugs ironed out already and it resembled what the final version would be. None of that could be said for the reborn infantry beta.
There are minimum standards for how much work should be done for something to be considered a beta. "Beta" is the second letter of the greek alphabet. Second, that means something had to have come before it. And taking a look at Reborn infantry beta, I'm not sure there was.
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Everyone uses different terms for preview releases, there's no standard for naming something an alpha/beta/rc etc. However, I'd say it's reasonable to assume their internal builds can be considered private alpha milestones.
That said, I do agree that the "beta" should resemble what the developers intended as being the end result, opposed to leaving out a lot of content (vehicles) which is a major defining aspect of the game.
Edit: Oh and unless the code is very minimal, software is very rarely "complete". There's always bugs to be squashed and features to be added, which is why we have product release cycles with maintenance and security updates on a (hopefully) regular basis.
Version 1.0 is usually just a milestone when the developers reach their intended features and decide the only remaining issues are minor and can thus be used by end-users; It does not signify a "finished" product that is totally void of bugs. Again though, everyone uses their own version numbering, some being more common than others.
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| Re: C&C Reborn Beta [message #433742 is a reply to message #433720] |
Thu, 29 July 2010 12:44 |
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| a000clown wrote on Thu, 29 July 2010 00:11 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 21:21 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 27 July 2010 17:41 |
| Dover wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 08:43 |
That's cool. I wonder what would happen if real, non-shitty developers did the same thing and sat on their laurels after they put out a partially-complete beta.
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I posted before, but this really didn't hit me until just now.
There is no such thing as a 'complete beta.'
The point of a beta is to give out a work-in-progress in order to receive feedback on how they should adjust things for the final product.
A 'complete beta' wouldn't be a beta, it would just be the entire game.
I think you're confusing the term 'beta' with 'demo,' which the Infantry Beta was not.
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I'm not. I'm drawing paralells with the StarCraft II beta which went on recently, which resembles what a beta should be. That wasn't a 'demo' either, but it was a more-than-half done product with all the serious bugs ironed out already and it resembled what the final version would be. None of that could be said for the reborn infantry beta.
There are minimum standards for how much work should be done for something to be considered a beta. "Beta" is the second letter of the greek alphabet. Second, that means something had to have come before it. And taking a look at Reborn infantry beta, I'm not sure there was.
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Everyone uses different terms for preview releases, there's no standard for naming something an alpha/beta/rc etc. However, I'd say it's reasonable to assume their internal builds can be considered private alpha milestones.
That said, I do agree that the "beta" should resemble what the developers intended as being the end result, opposed to leaving out a lot of content (vehicles) which is a major defining aspect of the game.
Edit: Oh and unless the code is very minimal, software is very rarely "complete". There's always bugs to be squashed and features to be added, which is why we have product release cycles with maintenance and security updates on a (hopefully) regular basis.
Version 1.0 is usually just a milestone when the developers reach their intended features and decide the only remaining issues are minor and can thus be used by end-users; It does not signify a "finished" product that is totally void of bugs. Again though, everyone uses their own version numbering, some being more common than others.
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For the purposes of this discussion, I was ignoring service updates. Obviously most things are patched post-1.0, but they have to actually reach 1.0 status first.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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