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Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430460 is a reply to message #430440] Thu, 10 June 2010 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 18:30

The only problem is that I don't think many women who wear burqa's are doing it on their own accord.

Your US constitution enshrines liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and those women's right to both of those basic privileges are probably being eroded by domineering men, using overbearing Quaranic verses to legitimize the wearing of such a restrictive piece of clothing.


You got it, nikki. This is what I have been saying for so long. In America, we are told how it's an awesome multicultural enviroment and can now help ourselves to freedom and what not, but in reality, it is really a highly segregated system where each cultural group commands its own.

So the opportunity of the people from these groups to break out and truly be free is limited because the "group" they are from doesn't give a shit about the Constitution or the new freedoms available to them. Instead the dominating blowhards within such cultural groups force the old system onto their children and hide behind their vain cultural heritage or religion.

I always thought this was one of the problems with modern immigration. One example I can use is myself and a conservative Indian blowhard I knew from high school. You can say he is a product of Indian culture. Brought up by zealots (both religiously and culturally), he thinks dating is a "sin" and represents "legalized adultery." He also refused to go to high school prom saying how it was "immoral." I always put this down to him being an intolerant blinded asshole disrespectful of other lifestyles. So in my opinion, he is like a Muslim woman living in the west who wants to wear the burqa because she don't know any better; they are brainwashed and brought up to think that way.

Then you have people like me, and I honestly I never really gave a crap about culture or nationalism due to living in too many countries and the fact I left India when I was only 8. While I don't dislike other "cultures" I had always seen these as divisive inhibitions. So eitherway, I found the American lifestyle incredibly appealing and free and a welcome breather. I had no differences of opinion with dating and despite having the same type of religious-cultural zealots as parents, I didn't get influenced by their views. So when it was time for me to go to the high school prom with my best lady-friend five years ago, the reply was a silent "no-no." And my parents said afterwards what a "good boy" I am to them for not going! Idiots! So then, my case is comparable to that of a Muslim woman who is actually forced to wear the burqa eventhough she don't want to wear it.

It all comes down to the dominating men with "culture shock" that are the problem. It could be the Muslim blowhard men or say culturally and religiously motivated people like my parents. It's these people that must be stopped for the problem to go away but tbh, I don't know how that will be done.

This being said, I think it is in a way unfair to ask these of western governmenets and western peoples. Because it is a problem immigrants are bringing to you...another headache for you to deal with. And one way to solve it is to ignore it and let the various sub-cultures in western society to stay the way they are (along with the broken hearts and miserable lives). I see the banning of the burqa as a step to integration even though it seems to go against the western view of free choice. Well, in this case I can say, "free coice" was clearly being abused.

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