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How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 01:34 Go to next message
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Hey, about an hour or so ago I was playing on Jelly Marathon on field, and I started to get accused of cheating by a player called SvRprelude (or something similar). I Hs'd him 3 times in a row. (Huge evidence, I know) I was a 500 Sniper and he a Shotgunner. Apparently he didn't know you could scope into the HON without being hit by base defenses. The other HS came from hugging that rock in front of the OB as he ran in a straight line.

Apparently that is a pretty mean feat. I then lag killed a player named GxMoney near our ref, he was standing still against the ref wall, and I HS - then to my horror he teleported behind the rocks near the bar and died. This wasn't exactly good timing to be getting lag kills.

I started to argue with them, and so I started to run fraps and tried to replicate the decent sniping with 25-30 FPS, it didn't happen. Raven and others were on IRC at the time, but nobody to my knowledge acted upon this whole situation.

I can understand Gx's point of view, because you can't get a HS behind a rock, period. On the other hand we have SVR, a complete moron who associates good sniping with hacking. Without trying to be arrogant, and knowing that this statement will sound like it - I hate it when players accuse you of cheating because they can't do what you can; or understand how you beat them so frequently, or simply because you're a better player than they are.

I didn't have fraps running at the time, and even if I did, I doubt anybody, let alone me, could still snipe at the same level at 25 FPS; it's just not possible, especially on an AOW server. Your reticle moves slower, people teleport around even more and your own movement is jagged.

So basically the point of this thread is how do I deal with this? I'm sure some of you know how it feels to sit there and be accused of cheating when you're completely innocent. I wonder what players like XvEzErX had to go through at times. How did players of that calibre prove their innocence? I don't have the luxury of having a machine that can run fraps and still be able to snipe comfortably.

I don't want to stop sniping, or try not to get HS (yes, I felt I had to do that yesterday), because I can't see why I should feel compelled to stop simply to avoid further accusations. It just feels like it's everybody versus me, and I can't do shit about it.

I run the latest scripts and use RR. Does this fully block the use of all cheats? If so, I can't see why I should be accused if this is known to players. Is there any sort of method I can use to prove that I'm not hacking whilst playing without Frapsing?

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425364 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tell them to stop taking a dicks up their ass.

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425365 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Usually, typing "lol" and continuing to play does the trick.

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425366 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's not really anything u can do. Try to get known in a community so you have more chance of being backed up if it happens.

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425368 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't worry about some random noobs calling you a cheater. Happens all the time.
If it's a good server with good mods,they aren't going to ban you based off of crying kids in game.


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Sir Kane wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 04:40

Tell them to stop taking a dicks up their ass.

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425369 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In battlefield 2 I just printscreened every hackusation I got because they were funny sometimes. If it gets you banned you can then send that Screenshot to an admin and get the ban removed.

I'm assuming renegade hacks arent like aimbot wierd colour things of course im not entirely sure on what renegade hacks look like lol.

Also with the lagging part playing with a constant 300 ping has it's advantages and disadvantage, one of them is the lag kills which are quite funny to get. But sometimes it just plain sucks trying to have a sniper fight with someone that warps everywhere.
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425370 is a reply to message #425369] Sun, 11 April 2010 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pandemic wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 06:38

In battlefield 2 I just printscreened every hackusation I got because they were funny sometimes. If it gets you banned you can then send that Screenshot to an admin and get the ban removed.

I'm assuming renegade hacks arent like aimbot wierd colour things of course im not entirely sure on what renegade hacks look like lol.

Also with the lagging part playing with a constant 300 ping has it's advantages and disadvantage, one of them is the lag kills which are quite funny to get. But sometimes it just plain sucks trying to have a sniper fight with someone that warps everywhere.

you know what ESP is? Its like that bullshit, just with aimbot...


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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425379 is a reply to message #425370] Sun, 11 April 2010 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I always go along with it, pretending i actually do cheat. Typing !rghon and !rghoff randomly throughout the game, after already being accused, can get you some nice pm's from players. By now, i take "FUCKING CHEATER" as a compliment. Xv sucks btw Satisfied .

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425388 is a reply to message #425365] Sun, 11 April 2010 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 04:25

Usually, typing "lol" and continuing to play does the trick.


This.

HaTe wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 10:42

I always go along with it, pretending i actually do cheat. Typing !rghon and !rghoff randomly throughout the game, after already being accused, can get you some nice pm's from players. By now, i take "FUCKING CHEATER" as a compliment. Xv sucks btw Satisfied .


That works too. Rocked Over


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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425389 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just tell them you are running RG! Big Grin
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425402 is a reply to message #425365] Sun, 11 April 2010 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 04:25

Usually, typing "lol" and continuing to play does the trick.


I am adopting this suggestion from now on!


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Azazel wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 13:29

Dover wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 04:25

Usually, typing "lol" and continuing to play does the trick.


This.

HaTe wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 10:42

I always go along with it, pretending i actually do cheat. Typing !rghon and !rghoff randomly throughout the game, after already being accused, can get you some nice pm's from players. By now, i take "FUCKING CHEATER" as a compliment. Xv sucks btw Satisfied .


That works too. Rocked Over

I have tested this today! it is true!


Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425417 is a reply to message #425379] Sun, 11 April 2010 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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HaTe wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 10:42

I always go along with it, pretending i actually do cheat. Typing !rghon and !rghoff randomly throughout the game, after already being accused, can get you some nice pm's from players. By now, i take "FUCKING CHEATER" as a compliment. Xv sucks btw Satisfied .

I approve of this method.
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425421 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I actually like to argue with the accusers.

I find it fun and it takes your opponent's mind off of the game and focuses it on the argument.
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425422 is a reply to message #425421] Sun, 11 April 2010 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 17:37

I actually like to argue with the accusers.

I find it fun and it takes your opponent's mind off of the game and focuses it on the argument.



But eventually it boils down to your accuser saying "stfu u chet", and you saying "lol" and continuing to play. Why not just cut out the bullshit and skip to the end?


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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425433 is a reply to message #425410] Sun, 11 April 2010 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zeratul wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 16:42

Azazel wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 13:29

Dover wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 04:25

Usually, typing "lol" and continuing to play does the trick.


This.

HaTe wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 10:42

I always go along with it, pretending i actually do cheat. Typing !rghon and !rghoff randomly throughout the game, after already being accused, can get you some nice pm's from players. By now, i take "FUCKING CHEATER" as a compliment. Xv sucks btw Satisfied .


That works too. Rocked Over

I have tested this today! it is true!


x-cheaters like you, can't use this tho.


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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425441 is a reply to message #425433] Sun, 11 April 2010 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Azazel wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 20:32



x-cheaters like you, can't use this tho.

yea.... good point... Sneaky


Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425459 is a reply to message #425363] Sun, 11 April 2010 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheers for the replies. I don't know if I can sit there and go "lol"; I don't want people thinking I cheat. I tend to always argue with someone who makes serious allegations; and generally yea, it does boil down to "ok n00b u use rgh, stop lying, it's sooooo obvious, hf with ur aimbot n00b cos u cant aim urself"


Btw, XV does not suck.

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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425461 is a reply to message #425459] Sun, 11 April 2010 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snpr1101 wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 23:22

I don't know if I can sit there and go "lol"; I don't want people thinking I cheat.


Clearly Renegade is the wrong game for you then. This game requires the player to have a functioning pair of balls. Try playing The Sims or something.


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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425463 is a reply to message #425461] Mon, 12 April 2010 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 01:30

snpr1101 wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 23:22

I don't know if I can sit there and go "lol"; I don't want people thinking I cheat.


Clearly Renegade is the wrong game for you then. This game requires the player to have a functioning pair of balls. Try playing The Sims or something.


of course, I should be more brave over the internet, that way; I could sit there and talk to people like you do.
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425483 is a reply to message #425363] Mon, 12 April 2010 04:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You should just stop cheating. Thumbs Up
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425485 is a reply to message #425463] Mon, 12 April 2010 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snpr1101 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 00:16

Dover wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 01:30

snpr1101 wrote on Sun, 11 April 2010 23:22

I don't know if I can sit there and go "lol"; I don't want people thinking I cheat.


Clearly Renegade is the wrong game for you then. This game requires the player to have a functioning pair of balls. Try playing The Sims or something.


of course, I should be more brave over the internet, that way; I could sit there and talk to people like you do.



If you're afraid to sit there and talk over the internet, then you really do need to be more brave.


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Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425494 is a reply to message #425459] Mon, 12 April 2010 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snpr1101 wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 01:22

I tend to always argue with someone who makes serious allegations;


I was like this for the past 3 years till yesterday. I am taking Dover's advice.

edit: and the advice of many others who said the same thing.


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I suppose it depends partly on your reputation.

If your a new player and no one knows who you are then you would normally have to prove that you don't hack. But, if your well known to the server and the admins, Then you shouldn't have to worry about it.

Best thing to do is just printscreen the accusation and continue playing.
Re: How do I deal with cheat accusations? [message #425505 is a reply to message #425363] Mon, 12 April 2010 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I've given up convincing people that I don't cheat. It just isn't worth the effort.
Like, people will think you cheat in this game no matter what pretty much. I'm pretty awful, so the fact I get accused of cheating is funny.


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