| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #422798 is a reply to message #422796] |
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| Clark Kent wrote on Fri, 19 March 2010 17:55 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 08:45 |
| Clark Kent wrote on Fri, 19 March 2010 17:18 |
Also story line is coolFucking Retarded with space time continuum and crazy Japs trying to take over the world.
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Fixed.
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Meh... I thought it was interestingFUCKING RETARDED... I just wonderDON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT what happen to Yuri
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Fixed again. RA1's story was compelling and unique. RA2 took a huge dump on RA1's grave. RA3 was just continuing the trend. For the record, Yuri's story arc ended in Yuri's Revenge, and good riddance too since that may just have been the most retarded thing in the C&C franchise.
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| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #422817 is a reply to message #422569] |
Fri, 19 March 2010 23:56 |
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They could ship me a turd in a box with "C&C 4" written on it and that would give RA3 a run for it's money.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #422847 is a reply to message #422569] |
Sat, 20 March 2010 13:00 |
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From what I've read, it seems Kane has decided to become a liberal hippie douche and joined Greenpeace to save humanity by delivering it cheap, green electricity. Does he get around in a Toyota Prius?
What's the bulletpoints of this whole C&C4 story?
I honestly think EA is using C&C4 as a test-drive for a new style of RTS game that they are planning to produce in the future; in order to make it financially worth their time, they branded it C&C4, brought in Joey and another cast of acting school dropouts and packaged it as a grand finale in order to sell it to rabid C&C fans.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #422888 is a reply to message #422847] |
Sat, 20 March 2010 16:36 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 15:00 |
From what I've read, it seems Kane has decided to become a liberal hippie douche and joined Greenpeace to save humanity by delivering it cheap, green electricity. Does he get around in a Toyota Prius?
What's the bulletpoints of this whole C&C4 story?
I honestly think EA is using C&C4 as a test-drive for a new style of RTS game that they are planning to produce in the future; in order to make it financially worth their time, they branded it C&C4, brought in Joey and another cast of acting school dropouts and packaged it as a grand finale in order to sell it to rabid C&C fans.
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The game is essentially a crash test dummy of a "new", casual RTS gametype aimed at a casual non-RTS and non-hardcore gamer audience. It's not actually new, because its a mash-up of World in Conflict and Dawn of War 2, and beaten to pulp with two by fucking four.
Think of it like Battlefield's conquest mode, except in an RTS form. Similar to KOTH. Basically, whack a mole without the entertainment of having a hammer to whack those motherfucking moles.
The story was absolutely lame.
So here's what I establish from it: Kane wanted to get out of the earth, so he used Nod to quicken the growth and advancement of Tiberium. Then in C&C3 he used the Tiberium bomb to attract the Scrin, who built a tower, which would be the key to him getting out of the earth.
I find it lame how the role and purpose of the Tacitus changed from game to game. In Firestorm, it was basically a giant USB full of data - engineering formulas, tiberium information, etc. Then in C&C3, its purpose changed to "pointing to the coming of the Scrin". Then in Kane's Wrath, Legion fuses with the Tacitus (which appears to have no real affect in C&C4), and now in C&C4, it contains the keys to unlock the Scrin portal.
In KW we learned that Legion was related to CABAL (in some way), but this plays no role in C&C4. The Scrin play zero role whatsoever - I didn't want them in as a faction originally, but I would've at least wanted a subtle Scrin role in the game. Didn't they say at the end of C&C3 that they were gonna come back? Obviously that didn't happen.
The Forgotten were, once again, forgotten completely this time.
Why is the GDI and Nod commander the same person? Why is the GDI and Nod command centre the same set?
How the fuck did the Tiberium just disappear at the end? Everyone just lived happily ever after?
Where did the portal lead Kane and his followers? Who or what is Kane? We knew you were on the earth for a prolonged period ever since we realized that from RA1 to Tiberian Sun, you didn't age a bit, so that's practically old news.
The separatist movement was pretty lame - Kane is Nod, and Nod is Kane. He was held in very high esteem in Tiberian Dawn, and then worshiped by his followers in Renegade, Tiberian Sun, and C&C3. The separatist in KW made some sense, because Kane was hidden at that point, but a non-hidden-Kane giant separatist team is a bit unreal.
The wife scenes were terrible. Just utterly terrible.
And don't even get me started on the gameplay.
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| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #422905 is a reply to message #422888] |
Sat, 20 March 2010 17:51 |
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| Fobby wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 17:36 |
The game is essentially a crash test dummy of a "new", casual RTS gametype aimed at a casual non-RTS and non-hardcore gamer audience. It's not actually new, because its a mash-up of World in Conflict and Dawn of War 2, and beaten to pulp with two by fucking four.
Think of it like Battlefield's conquest mode, except in an RTS form. Similar to KOTH. Basically, whack a mole without the entertainment of having a hammer to whack those motherfucking moles.
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Hmm, ok. I don't play modern RTS' so I haven't been around. Just from playing the older C&C's and Starcraft, I figured that one of the core components of an RTS was a base. A mobile 'mother' unit that constructed every unit sounded new to me.
| Fobby wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 17:36 |
How the fuck did the Tiberium just disappear at the end? Everyone just lived happily ever after?
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Wow that's disappointing. I was hoping the game would've ended with humanity's demise, or something close. It would've been better if they ended it on a grittier note of people still killing each other even if they're staring extinction in the face; sort of an 'Ozymandias' thing.
| Fobby wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 17:36 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #424206 is a reply to message #422569] |
Mon, 29 March 2010 22:16 |
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Ho hum. You mean there are actually folks out there who failed to learn their lesson after C&C3? Nevermind that EA just sort of shamelessly jacked the title that was supposed to go on the third Tiberian-universe game (yeah yeah, they own the rights, whoopee... it's still stupid to slap a decade-old rumormill title on a game that everyone already knows isn't gonna live up to its own reputation). "Oh, it's a revolutionary RTS, we just took out a few irrelevant things like base building and resource management. You'll love it!"
Okay, I can give them props for trying the no bases thing; that hasn't been revisited in mainstream RTS since Homeworld was the latest greatest thing- and it turned out to be one of the key elements of one of the best games in the genre. Trouble is, EA kinda fucked up on the "trying" part, and just went ahead and deleted a major staple of the C&C series without finding another solution that worked first.
There really isn't much here that couldn't have worked, either- and that's the sad part. RTS, sure- if RTS stand for Rushed, Thrown-together and Sloppy. The visuals are unimpressive, there's really nothing unique or particularly entertaining about the gameplay as compared to other titles, and the FMVs are utter shit. Utter. Fucking. Shit. Story is pretty much expected to be the weak point of any RTS, but it's like they went out of their way to do as bad of a job as possible in that department. It couldn't be worse if the lip-sync was off like an old Godzilla dub- that would only make it hilarious and bad.
Having watched some of the cutscenes on youtube now... I really, really wish there'd be a Zero Punctuation for this garbage. I know there won't be because Yahtzee generally doesn't bother with RTS, but damn would it be funny. Beyond funny. Gut-splittingly, floor-rollingly, ass-offingly nosecola funny.
I've typed and deleted about five different rants about how stupid it is to give "The Commander" a spouse as a supporting character. You're the Hand-of-fucking-God, not a family man. If you want to give an RTS a story with an emotional impact, drop a goddamn nuke on something. Kill off the CO. Kidnap the cute briefing chick or the Cool New Tech Guy. Unless the character in question is going to feature heavily in the hows and whys of the game world (read that: blowing shit up in fun new ways, and teaching me about how to do same), they need to have a more global impact than "honey, please make sure you're home for supper." There just aren't any words for how mindfuckingly stupid this really is.
Best for last, though... experience levels. In an RTS. That is all.
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| Re: Awesome Stuff [C&C4 Tiberian Twilight] [message #424274 is a reply to message #422569] |
Tue, 30 March 2010 19:11 |
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Watch the ending on youtube. It's just as bad.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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