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Hero Class?[ 16 votes ]
1. Fighter/Warrior 0 / 0%
2. Cleric/Priest 0 / 0%
3. Wizard/Mage 2 / 13%
4. Rogue/Thief 2 / 13%
5. Sorceror/Warlock 2 / 13%
6. Paladin/Knight 2 / 13%
7. Druid/Shaman 2 / 13%
8. Barbarian/MartialArt 1 / 6%
9. Archer/Ranged 5 / 31%

Note: This is NOT focused on any one RPG. This is fantasy in general.
For those who have/do play RPG's, what hero class do you prefer and why?
I tried grouping the classes best I could, hope I didn't leave one out or make one too general.

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Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419383 is a reply to message #419381] Sun, 07 February 2010 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 21:16

Pyro


Seconded.


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yeah i gotta go with pyro
Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419389 is a reply to message #419383] Sun, 07 February 2010 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 21:16

Pyro

Lol'd

I go with Thief/Rogue almost all the time, though. Especially if the game has good stealth/sneak mechanics.

Also, you left out Archer/General Ranged.


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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 22:30

Also, you left out Archer/General Ranged.


Thanks, I added it.


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Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419396 is a reply to message #419381] Sun, 07 February 2010 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.

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Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20

I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.

lol'd because it's true. Mages are always rigodamndiculously overpowered. OH LOL BUT THEY HAVE GLASS HEALTH! Yes that's such a weakness when nothing can hit them since they have ridiculous range, almost always have the best AoE attacks, and can easily stun/hold you off and make you fucking useless.

With the exception of maybe Mabinogi, but Mabinogi doesn't have classes, just skills.


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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 23:04

Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20

I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.

lol'd because it's true. Mages are always rigodamndiculously overpowered. OH LOL BUT THEY HAVE GLASS HEALTH! Yes that's such a weakness when nothing can hit them since they have ridiculous range, almost always have the best AoE attacks, and can easily stun/hold you off and make you fucking useless.

With the exception of maybe Mabinogi, but Mabinogi doesn't have classes, just skills.


Traditionally, there's supposed to be a rock-paper-scissors relationship between the three archetypes (Fighter/Rogue/Mage). Mage blows up/disables/stuns/whatever fighters, rogues can sneak/out-burstdamage mages, fighters can out-tank/win in the long run against rogues. The problem comes with most RPGs not developing the sneaking/burst damage aspect of rogues enough, so mages have free reign to dominate things..


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Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 02:20

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sun, 07 February 2010 23:04

Dover wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 01:20

I'm yet to see an RPG with an underpowered mage class.

lol'd because it's true. Mages are always rigodamndiculously overpowered. OH LOL BUT THEY HAVE GLASS HEALTH! Yes that's such a weakness when nothing can hit them since they have ridiculous range, almost always have the best AoE attacks, and can easily stun/hold you off and make you fucking useless.

With the exception of maybe Mabinogi, but Mabinogi doesn't have classes, just skills.


Traditionally, there's supposed to be a rock-paper-scissors relationship between the three archetypes (Fighter/Rogue/Mage). Mage blows up/disables/stuns/whatever fighters, rogues can sneak/out-burstdamage mages, fighters can out-tank/win in the long run against rogues. The problem comes with most RPGs not developing the sneaking/burst damage aspect of rogues enough, so mages have free reign to dominate things..

Yeah, I don't mind an extended rock-paper-scissors effect with more classes, but most fail to do this. At the very least then, make it so every class has strengths and weaknesses to certain aspects of any other class- so it'd come down to who's more skillful. Which means, MMORPG's in general need to be a shitton more skill-based, and regular RPG's need somewhat intelligent AI.


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Mages are never overpowered, because they always have to wear those unsexy coats. Only rogues get to wear sexy half naked elf armor!
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surth? / surth! wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 14:30

Mages are never overpowered, because they always have to wear those unsexy coats. Only rogues get to wear sexy half naked elf armor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4EtE9LNDiU

Who needs revealing clothes when you can summon a FUCKING GOLEM MADE OUT OF RANDOM SHIT FROM THE GROUND?

I rest my case.


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DRNG wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 08:47

Hammerdin.


Hammerdins are for pussies. Real men play chargers, or orb/lightning sorcs, or WW barbs. Anything else is wearing your vagina on your sleeve. >:[


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Dover wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 01:29

DRNG wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 08:47

Hammerdin.


Hammerdins are for pussies. Real men play chargers, or orb/lightning sorcs, or WW barbs. Anything else is wearing your vagina on your sleeve. >:[

why wouldnt you want to wear a vagina on your sleeve?
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My mage on WoW does fire (pyro, lol) so he's less inclined to hinder an enemy than he is to blow him sky-high. I agree theye're overpowered somewhat, but I don't use them for that reason - I just think wielding magic offensively is very fun. I also like having a plethora of spells to use in combat, even if I specialize in one type.

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Hammerdins are for pussies. Real men play chargers, or orb/lightning sorcs, or WW barbs. Anything else is wearing your vagina on your sleeve. >:[



Dover got his butt kicked by Hammerdins with their harlequinn caps and SoJ's etc.. all through Diablo and is now mad because his Druid sucked.

Also, Vagina Sleeves are awesome.
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Regardless that I cannot sincerely vote, Barbarian/Martial artist seems to be the same as Fighter, but Fighter is too broad a category.

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IAmFenix wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 15:41

Regardless that I cannot sincerely vote, Barbarian/Martial artist seems to be the same as Fighter, but Fighter is too broad a category.

Yeah, I've always seen them as similar, really. Kind of an unnecessary separation IMO.


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DRNG wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 12:30

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Hammerdins are for pussies. Real men play chargers, or orb/lightning sorcs, or WW barbs. Anything else is wearing your vagina on your sleeve. >:[



Dover got his butt kicked by Hammerdins with their harlequinn caps and SoJ's etc.. all through Diablo and is now mad because his Druid sucked.

Also, Vagina Sleeves are awesome.



Nah, I have a Hammerdin, but they're EZ-mode. Hammerdins make Diablo EZPZ. I try not to use him.

IAmFenix wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 13:41

Regardless that I cannot sincerely vote, Barbarian/Martial artist seems to be the same as Fighter, but Fighter is too broad a category.


They're different enough for D&D (The basis for all traditional Western RPGs, whether they care to admit it or not) to make the distinction.


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Rogue/Thief

Re: Fanboy Thread: Hero Class [message #419577 is a reply to message #419564] Wed, 10 February 2010 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 22:49



They're different enough for D&D (The basis for all traditional Western RPGs, whether they care to admit it or not) to make the distinction.

True, though their general playstyle is similar enough to the usual Fighter/Warrior class to be grouped together. I mean, if you were to take those choices off, you'd instantly got for Fighter/Warrior as the closest possible (and obviously, you can't list EVERY single class from every RPG...).


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Necromancer is missing from that list
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SPIKDUM wrote on Fri, 12 February 2010 04:24

Necromancer is missing from that list


Just wondering, would that fit in with sorceror/warlock or is it different?


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