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Sun, 07 February 2010 15:22   |
tactic356
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i personally wouldn't recommend an asus mobo (and i've been flamed for this before) since I know a decent number of people who have had to RMA them a few times before they got a working one. The boards good once they got a working one though.
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419361 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 15:43 |
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Asus gets a bit of flack, but I think that's simply because they sell the most boards, and so with the sheer numbers of sales, comes a proportionate amount of problems.
That Asus board is good, but keep in mind that it won't do SLI, if you ever decide you want to use nVidia in the future. Also, you might want to see if you can find a board with USB 3.0 and SATA 6G, and go with one of those if the cost isn't that much higher.
I'm thinking that it might be a better bet to go with a 5850 instead of a 5870, because for your purposes, a 5870 will likely be overkill, and the 5850 will save you some coin.
This review here, with gaming benchmarks will give you an idea on how the 5850 stands:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/24095-xfx-radeon-h d-5850-1gb-gddr5-review.html
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419362 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 16:00 |
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Well, then I'll get that board. But isn't Crossfire the exact same thing, just ATI instead? Wouldn't either do just fine? And yes, I'll go with the 5850 then.
Also, should I get nVidia now? I just saw some post about how windows 7 drivers for ATI don't work 
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419364 is a reply to message #419363] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 16:16 |
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This seems like a good board. It has Crossfire/Sli support plus an i7 cpu in the combo. And holy shit, that board does look awesome. Max supported memory: 24GB LOL! I think I want that one! Seems a bit overkill so, should I get that combo I stated up there?
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419365 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 16:43 |
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LOL NO WAY!!!
Instead, maybe consider this combo as a start:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.339802
You'd then add a Phenom 955/965 to it, and go from there. My buddy has an older version of this board, and he absolutely loves it. He's in the same boat as you because he wasn't interested in OC'ing, and just wanted some awesome HD gaming. However, if you ever do decide to OC in the future, this board will handle it really well.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419366 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 17:00 |
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Alright then! I'll get the Phenom 965. I'm also going to add an extra two sticks of memory. Now, what's left to buy? I need a case, which I think I will get the one SSnipe suggested. Then how does two of those Spinpoint hard drives sound? Also what god damn power supply do I need? Is that it then?
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419367 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 17:16 |
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Is there a reason for the extra memory? 4GB is more or less all you need.
SSnipe's suggestion is in the top tier, and is really popular. However, the AZZA Solano you picked is also supposed to be really good for the price.
The Spinpoint's are a good drive, and if you need two for storage, then you'll be real happy.
Ok, for a power supply, I'd recommend this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=corsair% 20750
So that's the:
CPU
MoBo
RAM
HD
PSU
Case
Pick up a cheap DVD-Writer, and you should be golden. Just make sure your copy of Windows will let you do a full install.
Be sure to post the total cost of the components before buying!
I'd still recommend an SSD as a boot drive because it really makes a huge difference. I have my games on an SSD, and it's just awesome.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419368 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 17:27 |
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Well, my running total is about $1,000 so why not add 4GB? However, I think I'll take it off for a small-sized SSD. Which one should I get? Preferably around $200. Would this one do?
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419373 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 18:16 |
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No, not that sort of adapter. Lucky you asked, because that's completely different than what you'd need. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811995034&cm_re=ssd_mo unting_kit-_-11-995-034-_-Product
My SSD's don't have an adapter, and I just leave them at the bottom of my case. There's no moving parts to worry about, so unless having the most organized case around is a big deal, you can likely do without a mounting kit.
I should also mention that your CPU comes with a heatsink/fan. If you intend to OC, then you'll need to buy a third party heatsink because the one included won't likely handle the extra heat too well. If you do decide to OC in the future, you can take off the AMD heatsink, but you'll need to clean up the old thermal compound off really well. This is just something you should know for the future.
No worries about the help. I got a huge amount of help from people here, and other places for my first, and second builds. Hopefully, you'll get some second opinions though. Homey is really good with this stuff.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419376 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 18:49 |
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Hmm, I just looked at the combo's for the case, and saw this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.326235
If you get the Antec 1200, and the Corsair PSU, it'd be the same price, BUT, you gotta deal with a rebate first. Antec's well known for their power supplies, so maybe go with that combo. 
Always be on the look-out for similar components and combo's that help you save on money. The less money you spend, means you get to buy more games, or sock some coin into the bank account.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419378 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 19:18 |
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Oh nice! Still, if you can shave off a couple dollars here and there, then go for it. I'm sure the parents will appreciate it.
As for building it all, here's a good guide.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-274745_13_0.html
In all honesty though, it's not rocket science. Many things are either colour coded, or will only fit in a certain way. Just don't rush the job, and plan things out as you go, and it'll be fine.
Also, static electricity is a problem for builds. If you're putting it together, don't wear socks, and if possible, work on a tile floor, or at least an area like your kitchen table where there's no carpet. Be sure to keep one hand on the case to discharge the static as you go.
And no, no soldering is involved at all. It's all plug n' play!
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419379 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 19:30 |
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slosha
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Oh, shit. Ugh, I really hope I don't fuck it up. I'll definitely take it as slow as possible. I got a pretty big table that I should be able to lay all the parts out.
Fuck, I forgot all about a CD drive lol! Which one would support 64-bit? I found one, but it didn't support 64-bit as said in a review, so what should I get?
Also I need this version of Windows 7 right, not the upgrade?
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419382 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 20:13 |
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Um, any DVD Writer should work with a 64-bit system. Anyhow, just roll with one of these.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&cm_re=dvd_wr iter-_-27-135-204-_-Product
Now, if you have the upgrade version of Win 7, you might be OK, because it seems people can get around the upgrade limitation.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/10/27/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-me dia-and-product-key-on-formatted-or-empty-blank-hard-drive/
I've never done this though, so I can't say it works. I'd research a bit and see. This is only worthwhile if you have a Win 7 upgrade disk.
If you don't, then get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=window s_7_oem-_-32-116-754-_-Product
It's the full version, but much cheaper. The reason it's cheaper is because MS won't give you much support with this version. But really, you don't need that support if you know a thing or two about computers. If you can solve your problems through forums and Google, then you're fine.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419387 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 20:36 |
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slosha
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Yeah, I got Windows 7 in download form through a student deal from my sister. What do you mean 'less support?' Will I still get updates and such? Could I also overwrite it with the download installer I bought?
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #419388 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 07 February 2010 21:11 |
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Hmm, if it's a digital download, then you might be in a bit of a jam. Unless you mount and burn it to a DVD... and I'm not sure that'll work either. That'll have to be your call.
Less support means that if something goes wrong, you can't really dial up MS and ask for tech support. You'll still get updates as per normal.
Not a big deal anyways, because smart people get their help from Google and forums instead of waiting three hours to talk to John Bombay.
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #420516 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 21 February 2010 19:02 |
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Alright, well after several tries to isntall the OS and getting the BSOD, I thought I'd post here. I've finally narrowed it down to one problem. I keep getting MEMORY_MANAGEMENT error, which I have figured out is to do with my ram. I have a 750w power supply, so I'm pretty sure power isn't the problem. I think the problem is that my RAM is crap. I tried changing slots, but the fucker won't go back in. Luckily, I only took one out. The reviews for the OCZ Gold aren't very good either, stating that it's very unstable.
It doesn't list any specific problem, just MEMORY_MANAGEMENT & STOP: 0x0000001A.
Is there any fix anyone can figure out?
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #420519 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 21 February 2010 21:03 |
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First thing I'd do is to switch the sticks, and see if you get that error again. Memory should go in and out with no issue, and with very gentle force. Just make sure everything lines up.
Hopefully that'll be what does it.
Bad memory happens and I've had it before; sucks eh? However, I've used OCZ stuff myself, and didn't have an issue.
If the install goes through with one stick, I'd contact newegg and see what they say. You might be able to RMA through them, or head to OCZ and see what they say.
Here's OCZ's support: http://www.ocztechnology.com/support/
Keep updating here, and good luck.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Building my own PC [message #420522 is a reply to message #419256] |
Sun, 21 February 2010 21:28 |
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Yeah, it doesn't go through with one stick, either. I did email someone on the OCZ forums, so if I don't get a reply I'll see what I can do. I should be having one of my mom's friends coming over to help me out one of these days, too. So, I'll see where I am after that. If he can't get anything to work, then I'll have to give OCZ a call. Thank you.
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