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Re: Pointsfix debate - cleared - I plaid guilty :( [message #414794 is a reply to message #414707] Sun, 20 December 2009 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 12:33

Arguing/fighting is useless if you can't convince your opponent. Simpee apparently just stubbornly refuses to reason. Well that should be ok, just don't lower yourself to their level by getting personal. If one just reads the countless threads about it then either he/she will understand the use of the pointfix or hate you Spoony.

i'm actually embarrassed for you reading this, ewd.

simpee lies to the community again and again and again, rigs several polls and lies about the results, actively sabotages a community who chose to use the pointsfix, tells me i can't use it in my own community (so much for individual choice) in the clanwars ladder, tells people NOBODY should use it... and when i don't stand for any of this bullshit, you tell me not to lower myself to his level? what the FUCK is wrong with you? read what you are saying. you should be deeply ashamed of what you just posted.

and if people read these threads and end up "hating" me just because i don't put up with behaviour as unbelievably pathetic as simpee's, then i'm glad they hate me. if somebody thinks the problem is not what simpee's doing but the fact i'm resisting it, i don't want that kind of idiot on my side. if anything, the fact i seem to be annoying these morons makes me think i'm doing something right.

if you are not annoyed by someone endlessly lying to the community, actively sabotaging anyone who wants to use the original renegade points system etc... but you ARE annoyed by someone who will not stand for this, then thanks for showing us your priorities. i am glad i now know this about you.

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Hell, I actually dislike the pointfix debate precisely because of your style of posting. Hell, how many times have you now told everyone that Simpee is lying? If they care, they got it by now or never will.

and if they don't care, but they care about the fact i'm saying so, i do not value their opinions.

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Oh, btw, HaTe supports my point. People start to see you as the pointfix. Which is NOT a good thing as you created enough enemies already. It would be much better to see Crimson, StealthEye, TT or BlackIntel as the 'image' of the pointfix. Due to your style or reasoning, either people will join you, or will start fighting back. When they start fighting back, it basically means that the pointfix camp has lost (again).
I dare you to just read this post, tell me whether you understand what I'm saying/trying to say and not challange it any further. I don't need you to agree with me, I just want you to think about this.

and i'd like YOU to think about what a COMPLETE moron you've just made yourself look. i'm not joking here, i am literally embarrassed for you reading what you said.

Surth wrote

thats pretty much the reason i stopped debating this. im unable to get my point across due to limitations of the english language, my ineloquence, and, i suppose, the limited capability of human communication in general.

it's always the way. people like you always say there's something terribly wrong with the way i debate. i always make a point of asking exactly what that is, and they never ever can, and there's always some excuse for it.

HaTe wrote

I still don't see how i was proven wrong, as i posted opinions, which can't be proved wrong, only facts can. All we did was exchange opinions, mind explaining how i was "proven" wrong?

tbh, if you read page four and don't think you were proven wrong numerous times, you aren't looking very hard.

don't get me wrong here; there's absolutely no shame about being wrong in a debate, even as many times as you. the only shame comes when you react violently, and act like the other person did something unfair in proving you wrong. i'm saying this for your own benefit.

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But hell, there are still people who think the world is flat, though all of the evidence out there proving it is round. There are still those people who won't change their minds. This is not the case though, as there is not enough evidence it IS a bug to convince many people. If it was a bug, why would this many people object to the change of it? No1/little people objected to all of the other changes by scripts and core patches, why would so many people go through the trouble to argue this case? Even if it was 100% proven a bug, there also would still be those people who object to playing with the pointsfix, just because of the changes. That's how it is when it comes straight down to it, and people won't change their opinions very often at all, just by reading arguments, compared to seeing facts. There are some facts, just not enough for many people, plain and simple.

you're asking pointless questions now.

read my first reply in chewml's thread. it might open your eyes to the way your fellows on the anti-pointsfix crowd have acted from the very beginning of this debate. of course, it's hardly the worst thing they've done...


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