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Re: Pointsfix debate - cleared - I plaid guilty :( [message #414659 is a reply to message #414658] Sun, 20 December 2009 07:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Spoony wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 07:58

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EVERYTIME HE DOES IT - STAGGERING - OUTRIGHT LIED - ENTIRELY HONEST - its vocabulary like that. it makes people hostile and tedious. No matter how true it is.

saying that simpee's lied to the community again and again and again is just a plain statement of fact. saying that i've been entirely honest in all these debates, as well as having posted masses of evidence and gone to incredible lengths to engage differing opinion, is a fact.

if saying these things offends you, it is ENTIRELY your problem. there is nothing wrong with these statements. this is a black-and-white issue.

you've made it very plain that in your mind, the problem isn't the despicable tactics used by people like simpee - the problem is spoony catches them redhanded and exposes them. congrats, anyone reading this thread can see you place absolutely no value on honesty.

No, In my mind, I dont care what fucking feud you have with simpee, clearshot, or anybody else. What I care about is seeing the pointsfix being implemented and integrated in as many servers&communities as possible because I believe it to be the right thing. If that means ignoring people like simpee lying, I will.


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No, i'm saying that neither of you gets anywhere by arguing in such a manner. You've debated this for what, a year now? Everybody who you can convince is already convinced and everybody else is a lost cause. All you do is turn away the people who would agree with you if you werent so insistent.

if someone is put off by the fact i keep smacking people like simpee down every time he does something incredibly pathetic, i can live without their support. you're saying: these people would be on my side if i let people get away with lying to the community all the time, rigging polls and lying about the results, sabotaging other people's communities if they choose to use the pointsfix...? you're saying that if i let people get away with all that crap unchallenged, other people would be on my side? if that's the way they think, i'm glad they're not on my side.

So you basically you'd rather bash some idiots then see the thing implemented you argued for over a year.
And im not even saying "let them get away with it unchallenged", but getting personal and hostile doesnt solve either problem.

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as for EWD, you're telling ME to reason with SIMPEE? you've missed a lot. eventually his endless stream of lies to the community to make me look bad got so extreme that i eventually said: if you carry on doing this, simpee, i'm gonna completely ignore everything you say from now on. lo and behold, he carried on doing it. i'm doing him a favour by still talking to him at all.

You're not doing yourself a favour.
 
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